XBMC 12.1 – Now Even Better

Posted By: Nathan Betzen on Mar 18, 2013 in Site News
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About a month and a half after the release of XBMC 12.0, we are happy to announce XBMC 12.1 with substantial fixes  for 12.0 across all platforms. Fixes include:

  • XBMC now supports using OSX’s default output device for audio as well as hardware decoding with Intel GPUs in OSX
  • XBMC no longer hogs audio for Linux and on resume audio will continue to work in Linux
  • Full iPhone 5 resolution is now enabled
  • Volume buttons on Android devices now control Android volume, rather than XBMC volume
  • Volume buttons on OSX devices once again control OSX volume, rather than XBMC volume
  • Player optimization on the Raspberry Pi, including more efficient playback, better subtitle support, and many crash fixes
  • iOS 6 support on the AppleTV 2.
  • XBMC does not crash when listed on the AppleTV top shelf
  • Added support for additional Xbox 360 controller types
  • Broader and more intelligent support for CEC devices
  • Fixed problems with several addons due to broken binary read/write in our python interface
  • Language fixes, including 7 new languages: Albanian, Burmese, Malay, Persian (Iran), Tamil (India), Uzbek, Vietnamese
  • AirPlay fixes, including making discovery of XBMC more reliable on OSX
  • Numerous crashing and stability fixes across all platforms

For all users interested in maximum stability, we highly recommend that you update from 12.0 to 12.1. This is the XBMC you were looking for.

Updating

To update to XBMC 12.1, please visit our download page, which includes downloads for Windows, OSX, and Android, and instructions for Linux, iOS, the Apple TV, and the Raspberry Pi. XBMCbuntu users can see these instructions for upgrading to 12.1 using ppa:team-xbmc/ppa. A clean build of XBMCbuntu with 12.1 will be available in the near future.

If you have any problems read the Frodo FAQ, the Raspberry Pi FAQ, or the Android FAQ, depending on your version.

How To Help

If you would like to help with XBMC, we encourage you to submit bugs in Trac, provide support in our Forums where you can, or donate to the Foundation if you like.

For those of you who are tracking and submitting bugs: You may notice that Github has an “Issues” section. The Team would very much appreciate it if you did not submit bug reports through that section, but rather continued to use the forums and Trac. At the moment, the Team is using Issues as a concise means of grouping and identifying particular bugs that they gather from the forum and Trac sources. Thanks for your help!

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Discussion - 134 Comments

  • MsRose Mar 18, 2013 

    I have an issue with the sound in Frodo that i never had in Eden. I plug in a Logitech Bluetooth headset in at night and in Eden it saw this and auto-switched the sound with no interaction on my part.

    Ever since upgrading, i now have to manually go into the systems sound settings and change it back and forth between my normal speakers and the headset, otherwise i get no sound. Gotta say, it’s getting annoying enough that i might go back to Eden.

  • Steve Mar 18, 2013 

    Sounds awesome! What about Windows default output device for audio? Or switching devices via JSON?

  • daanwillems Mar 18, 2013 

    Awesome, the Linux audio hog update just made my day! Finally audio is back on programs launched with the Advanced Launcher plugin.

  • Justin Mar 18, 2013 

    First! thanks, nothing on that list for windows but stability sounds good.

  • Ned Scott Mar 18, 2013 

    @Justin
    Actually, five items on that list apply to Windows. Plus, all the “boring” fixes that aren’t listed (see https://github.com/xbmc/xbmc/commits/Frodo )

    EDIT: aw man, you were first until I approved some “pending” posts! WordPress is a bit aggressive for spam detection and posts don’t always show up right away.

  • C Mar 18, 2013 

    Hmm, so much focus on Android, iOS and AirPlay… After 10+ years with XBMC maybe it’s time to look for another solution for my home theater…

  • Ned Scott Mar 18, 2013 

    @C
    Only in the sense of exciting press release bullet points. The majority of the bug fixes are to core XBMC/HTPC features, and are simply not very “exciting” to list on a blog post. If you look here you’ll see everything that’s been fixed between the 12.0 release date and today: https://github.com/xbmc/xbmc/commits/Frodo

    Any work done on ARM devices (Android and iOS) doesn’t take away from work done in other areas. Different devs work on different things, and we have more than ever working on core HTPC features. If anything, work done for ARM devices often feeds back for x86 devices in helping XBMC be more processor efficient, etc.

  • keibertz Mar 18, 2013 

    *.m4b Audio files doesnt work in Frodo. In Eden *.m4b audio files worked with a special as.xml entry. Why doesnt this work in Frodo too ?

  • dnixx Mar 18, 2013 

    Sweet! Running smoothly on my Ubuntu box.

  • Jason Mar 18, 2013 

    Why are the downloads 12.1 except for XBMCbuntu? They still show 12.00

  • Ned Scott Mar 18, 2013 

    @Jason
    Did you read the post?

    “XBMCbuntu users can see these instructions ( http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=XBMCbuntu#Upgrading_XBMC_via_ppa_in_XBMCbuntu ) for upgrading to 12.1 using ppa:team-xbmc/ppa. A clean build of XBMCbuntu with 12.1 will be available in the near future.”

  • Michael Mar 18, 2013 

    Was hoping for a 12.1 release, and here it is…thank you so much for all the great work you guys do!

    Only thing I’m missing, is a tarball with the source (still points to 12.0), and a cup of coffee, then I’m ready to upgrade my 4 XBMC boxes ;)

  • uomiarz Mar 18, 2013 

    I was waiting for it. While i keep updating my ubuntu from source I can’t do this for group of my friends.
    Audio finally working without major issues – sounds great !
    THX !!!

  • Joe Mar 19, 2013 

    C :
    Hmm, so much focus on Android, iOS and AirPlay… After 10+ years with XBMC maybe it’s time to look for another solution for my home theater…

    AirPlay = Hulu, Netflix, HBO Go, easy YouTubing and showing family videos.

    Other protocols are in the works. Very huge upgrade. I thought it was a frill but now that I use it, I get it.

    Just install over the top?

  • Gosh Mar 19, 2013 

    C :
    Hmm, so much focus on Android, iOS and AirPlay… After 10+ years with XBMC maybe it’s time to look for another solution for my home theater…

    Me too! I’ve been using this program since the XBMP days, and even though it keeps getting better and better, a release that doesn’t solely concentrate on my platform of choice is going to force me to find new software! Yanno, because these updates make my Windows based HTPC stop working…. oh wait. My bad, never mind, still works just fine. :)

    Keep up the great work guys and gals (and ignore the people who just like to whine)!

  • Nerdstalker Mar 19, 2013 

    The osX volume fix is what is pushing me over the edge to upgrade tonight man I hope it works, Thanks guys!

  • Robbie Mar 19, 2013 

    Works great here, I feel like the latest update has made things a lot smoother for playback and a little speedier when browsing plugins and some program addons. Keep up the great work! Now I just need to try the Android version.

  • fejjan Mar 19, 2013 

    @MsRose
    I have the same problem, with having to manually change audio output when plugging in my wireless headset, didnt have to do that before.

  • VascoDaGama Mar 19, 2013 

    The music cover art has not been fixed…
    Am I the only one who has the impression that XBMC has become buggier and less reliable since Frodo?

  • sandreas Mar 19, 2013 

    Hey Guys. Great work :-) But where is the source tarball? (http://mirrors.xbmc.org/releases/source/)

  • aur0n Mar 19, 2013 

    Great news, but please FIX THE DEFAULT AUDIO DEVICE OUTPUT for WINDOWS! (as mentioned by other users too)

    I’m stuck to Eden because of this: in Frodo it doesn’t work. Please consider us.

    http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid=149930

  • Gustav Mar 19, 2013 

    Multi-Channel-FLAC dont work with Frodo. Eden was ok…

  • John Bäckstrand Mar 19, 2013 

    “XBMC no longer hogs audio for Linux and on resume audio will continue to work in Linux”

    Awesome!

  • Nicolai Mar 19, 2013 

    I dunno about Frodo. I tried it and found it appears to be configured for the lowest common denominator. Namely the Raspberry Pi. Gone were some of the features that made XBMC cool, like the skin and the background pictures that changed with different menus.
    I tried to find another skin that had the same features but couldnt get it to work, I was half way through troubleshooting that when I realised it shouldnt be so hard and rolled back to Eden.
    How about: keep all the features and release a “lite” version for the low spec systems ?
    I realise this probably isnt the place for this discussion, but I checked out the details of the 12.1 version to see if there were any fixes to the skin but it appears not and then I saw this comment field…

  • Laser Mar 19, 2013 

    I do not understand and then version 13 Gotham?

  • LastCoder Mar 19, 2013 

    Frodo 12.0 was a disappointing release, far away from being a stable and solid successor of Eden – even the experimental Eden PVR build, which I used for more than 1 year, was more stable than Frodo. It’s not hard to identify that one reason is the lost development focus on main 2-3 platforms (x86 Linux, Win, MacOS) – trying to serve every available platform nevertheless if it makes any sense for a HOME THEATER system forces a decline of strength and a lost of very valuable resources for the main platforms; IMHO it would have been better to concentrate on the main platforms and to let the support of Android and other pieces of Hard-&Software be done by forks … I hope that 12.1 will a least wipe out such elementary errors like non working fast forward ..

  • Abusharif Mar 19, 2013 

    Dont update if you are running osx. At least on mac mini, xbmc is not starting with 12.1
    http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid=159702

  • Ian Darbey Mar 19, 2013 

    Does this fix the channel change delay by updating the FFMPEG version used?

  • Ned Scott Mar 19, 2013 

    @Abusharif
    Devs will be looking into it, but I have no issues with my 2009 MBP running 10.8.3, nor did any of the OS X Team members on their Macs. Whatever the issue there is, it doesn’t seem common or we would have picked it up (since it’s also an issue with nightly builds, too).

    @Ian Darbey
    FFmpeg version was not updated for this bug fix release.

    @Laser
    This is the latest stable version of XBMC that we recommend for “mass consumption”. The previously mentioned “Gotham” version is in very early/bleeding edge testing and is not stable and not recommended for most people.

  • Ned Scott Mar 19, 2013 

    @various

    A static tarball for 12.1 is coming soon! Till then, https://github.com/xbmc/xbmc/tree/Frodo should be identical for the time being.

  • Stijn Mar 19, 2013 

    I must say : big thanks!
    For some reasons (i thpught it was due to ffmpeg version used) i had some serious buffering issues with all betas , rc and 12.0 final which i didnt have with eden and hd audio

    Now with 12.1 it seems, it just vanished, i dunno what you did guys.. But its fixed! No more need for dsplayer now. Thx!

  • Abusharif Mar 19, 2013 

    @Ned Scott
    Ned, yeah seems to be Mac Mini related. 12.1 works on my two MBP’s. The other guy in the thread i posted on forum runs Mini as well.

  • Ned Scott Mar 19, 2013 

    @Nicolai
    The lack of multiple background on the default skin was only partly done for performance. There’s also artistic choice and making the settings learning curve easier. There’s already at least two modded versions of the skin that add the multiple backgrounds back, as well as even more features. XBMC has not lost any features just because the default skin changed.

    @LastCoder
    There are different *people* called *developers* and they work on different platforms. The fact that XBMC runs on Android or the Raspberry Pi has virtually no impact on the other platforms, especially considering the development Team has grown in the last year. These are *volunteers* who work on whatever they want to work on. They are not employees, and we cannot and will not force developers to work on specific features, just because we have X number of developers. It doesn’t even work that way, since most of the developers have their own specialities and areas of expertise.

    Outside of some odd, but unavoidable audio issues on some platforms (we replaced the entire audio system, which was massively outdated and needed to be done eventually), Frodo has been the best version of XBMC yet.

    I have not even heard of any issues with fast forward being broken in Frodo, let alone anything that would warrant the kind of reply you’ve given here. I understand certain issues can make people frustrated, but don’t be so melodramatic.

  • Zyn Mar 19, 2013 

    Great Job! Integrate advanced UPnP controller and equalizer please! :)

  • fritsch Mar 19, 2013 

    Still audio issues? Try this one: http://lwn.net/Articles/542664/ and don’t forget smiling.

  • Quintesse Mar 19, 2013 

    Just a bit of positivism: update works great here. CEC support seems much better. Great job!

  • LastCoder Mar 19, 2013 

    @Ned Scott

    I know, that these guys a volunteers – and for that very reason its more than ever necessary to concentrate the (limited) power .. and yes, nobody can force no one, it’s only a suggestion otherwise such a project risks to die ..

    You don’t know something about fast forwarding issues ? It’s simply another proof that the resources are overstretched. Ask developer Lars O. or just check this out for example – http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid=158865&pid=1362340#pid1362340. There are a lot of bugs “nobody” knows of but some users. Sometimes I have the impression, that most of the devs don’t use there own product in daily use …

    Just to clarify – I really like XBMC and I really respect this piece of work, but Linux is a great piece of work too and nobody would reject criticism – you didn’t understand that this is an elementary part of opensource and community projects ..

  • uomiarz Mar 19, 2013 

    @fritsch
    Good one :)

  • Laser Mar 19, 2013 

    Ned Scott :
    @Abusharif
    Devs will be looking into it, but I have no issues with my 2009 MBP running 10.8.3, nor did any of the OS X Team members on their Macs. Whatever the issue there is, it doesn’t seem common or we would have picked it up (since it’s also an issue with nightly builds, too).
    @Ian Darbey
    FFmpeg version was not updated for this bug fix release.
    @Laser
    This is the latest stable version of XBMC that we recommend for “mass consumption”. The previously mentioned “Gotham” version is in very early/bleeding edge testing and is not stable and not recommended for most people.

    Ok Thank´s!

  • Ned Scott Mar 19, 2013 

    @LastCoder
    Whoa whoa whoa, you’re getting on our case for being stretched out because of a bug with TVheadend that has nothing to do with XBMC’s core?

    You have no freaking clue how Team XBMC works, so don’t comment on it. You don’t know who works on what, or why they work on what, or how much of their time is taken up by various tasks. You have no clue about what impact the Android port had, or how many people worked on it, or any of that. It’s one thing to ask, or to say, “maybe this is something to reflect upon”, but you are stating things that are absolute rubbish.

    So yeah, no, killing Android or the Raspberry Pi (which is just linux on ARM, it’s not even a special platform) would have done nothing for your stupid fast forward bug in TVheadend.

    The biggest issue for Frodo is audio because the engine is so new that not all of the devs have a good working knowledge of it yet. At the same time, you know who came through on fixing a ton of audio stuff for Frodo’s release? Davilla, and he’s the head Mac OS X dev, iOS dev, and one of the devs who helped make the Android port happen. One of the guys you think is “too stretched out” kicked major ass on a totally new area of XBMC on top of being a lead developer on three of our platforms. What about the people we brought on to help with things like iOS, like Memphis, who turned out kicks major ass on our desktop platforms? Then we have people like jcarroll doing something that others describe to me as “some kind of crazy ass voodoo magic” code generation stuff that works on all the platforms automatically.

    The reason XBMC works so well with these ports is because the vast majority of the work is platform agnostic. We have more developers than we’ve ever had before, and that includes Linux

  • pecinko Mar 19, 2013 

    @LastCoder

    How can you even say devs should use XBMC on daily basis? Who would do the coding then? You? No, thanks.

  • LastCoder Mar 19, 2013 

    @Ned Scott

    He Ned, keep cool .. if you had read and understood the link to the ff issue you would have seen that this has *nothing* to do with TVheadend (it’s just there in the sub forum) ..

    .. but it’s okay, buddy, you’re right, Frodo is best piece of software ever seen, 100%-error-free (call the guys from guinness book of records !), millions of dev’rs just working 24/7 for XBMC, yeah the sun shines bright – and the only problem is – as always – the USER !!

    Damn, you’re right, my mistake …

  • beto Mar 19, 2013 

    i try to use frodo 12.0, my movies scroll very slow and the art fail to load and load repeatedly (with aeon nox and aeon mq4)
    in frodo 12.1 this errors are fixed?????

  • Michael Carroll Mar 19, 2013 

    Clarification on this release: does this mean we have bitstreaming over HDMI on OS X? i.e. the real Audio Engine upgrade?

  • Nicolas Mar 19, 2013 

    I need xbmc for Cubieboard. Is there a stable version?

  • Prebbish Mar 19, 2013 

    Hi there!

    I want to try out this update. Right now i’m running XBMCBuntu 11.0. I’m trying to use the guide to upgrade my build to 12.1, but I dont really know what the name of my current PPA is, so i’m not sure how to remove it. Could someone please point out to me, how to find out what PPA im using now :-)

  • Sephirothsmoogle Mar 19, 2013 

    Awesome update! I’m running a new Mac mini and the hardware acceleration is working a treat on the 4000 gpu. I have noticed a small thing that I’m confused about and wondering if anyone else is. Running 12.1 now takes a good 30-40 seconds to load a movie which was instant in 12.0. I thought at first it might be to do with now being able to use the hardware acceleration but taking that off still results in a long wait for movies to load. Any ideas?? Oh and any ideas on 5.1 aac playback for OSX.

    Great work and just an awesome piece of software running on Mac mini. 2 raspberry pi’s and ATV

    Thanks

  • unrealuk Mar 19, 2013 

    Any frodo 12.1 for xios ?

  • cw-kid Mar 19, 2013 

    I was hoping the bug fixes for WMA audio files might have made it in to 12.1 maybe next time then. Cheers

  • Begall Mar 19, 2013 

    Love, love, love it when people believe that their specific issue is the most important thing in the universe and all other work should be stopped until their specific usage case works perfectly. Must be nice for the people that write this for free to read it.

  • danshome Mar 19, 2013 

    Thanks for the new release. Sadly it looks like, even with the update, I’m going to have to downgrade to Eden. The new audio engine might be much better code-wise, but Frodo seems to be incapable of finding my AMD HDMI Audio on resuming from hibernate. I’ve tried everything possible to get around Frodo’s shortcomings – new drivers, EDID over-rides, delays in start-up scripts – but it’s simply intolerable to have to resume the pc, shut down XBMC (which autoloads on startup and auto-shutsdown on hibernate) and manually restart it before use…

  • Finsk Mar 19, 2013 

    I had experienced only one minor issue under 12.0, which was small repeated pauses when playing 5.1 channel 96k FLAC files (or 2-channel 192k FLAC files), live transcoded to AC3 and sent over SPDIF from my Zotac ID41. This has been fixed by 12.1. I tip my hat to the devs, and thank you for your continued work and an excellent release.

  • Josh Mar 19, 2013 

    @Ned Scott

    Great work mate, as always really appreciate the hard work you and the team put in to produce what is clearly the best home theatre software available. Thanks, and keep up the good work!

  • drn Mar 19, 2013 

    Wow, with 12.1. the CPU usage while idle roughly doubled here and Core Temp shows a power consumption of around three times higher than before the update (i52500k@4.3ghz, win7x64). I even installed from scratch to rule out possible hiccups during the update process, but Vanilla shows the same behavior. I’m actually a little worried here, it’s the first time I hear noise from the fan at all, lol. Can anyone confirm this or do you think it’s an issue with my rig. I can’t think of any recent major changes on my side which might be the cause for this.

  • mike Mar 19, 2013 

    mike :
    Just installed 12.1 for Android, and no longer see Netflix or hulu plus available as plugins anymore. Talk about a deal breaker, man that’s mostly why I use XBMC for nice central access to popular online streaming services all in one place.

    Also, just found if you try to uninstall fro do newest nightly, you can install any other fro do, but when I tried to install an older version again after I get the frodo Welcome screen for first load after fittest progress bar it fubars, force closes and won’t open again after. So for whatever reason using the android uninstaller it doesn’t actually cleanly and fully uninstall.

    I am using a nexus 7 (grouper) so this is basically an android reference device and if it had issues I am wondering what is going on. Don’t forget to nail the very basics before you go nuts ” upgrading” your code.

  • BadServo Mar 20, 2013 

    Quick heads-up for anyone using XBMCbuntu and attempts the in-place upgrade by following the wiki instructions. When I added the PPA and did an apt-get install on xbmc and xbmc.bin, after a reboot I was dumped to the login screen instead of jumping directly into XBMC. Performing an apt-get dist-upgrade resolved the issue.

  • Roger Mar 20, 2013 

    Awesome job on the XBMC. It works great. Just one small thing.. The screensaver seems to be crashing again on 12.1 and causing XBMC to shut down. Running windows 7. Will test more when I get home from work.

  • spiff Mar 20, 2013 

    i really wonder what’s churning the heads of people like this lastcoder. how, exactly, do you think that behaving as a child that was denied its toys will help your cause? how, exactly, do you think that ‘provoking’ devs by saying ‘this is the worst ever blah’ will ever do anything positive for you?
    it will just make this into a pissing contest, and yes, guess what, devs always “win”. we have all the cards and we will now just ignore you and your issue. since we don’t use the program anyways, we don’t give a rats ass about it remember? good work genious…

  • VascoDaGama Mar 20, 2013 

    @spiff You’re reacting like a flouted child, too.

  • Debian packages Mar 20, 2013 

    Still no 12.1 source ?

  • spiff Mar 20, 2013 

    how so? for saying it as it is? how would an adult react? just sit there and silent and receive your bile? i can do that, easily. the end result would still be exactly what i stated in the previous post.

  • VascoDaGama Mar 20, 2013 

    “guess what, devs always “win”. we have all the cards and we will now just ignore you and your issue.”

    Apart from that, lastcoder also says it as it is, from his point of view:
    “Frodo 12.0 was a disappointing release, far away from being a stable and solid successor of Eden.”

    That’s my impression, too. But I would not dare to draw any conclusions regarding the developers and their work like lastcoder did.

  • spiff Mar 20, 2013 

    right. the point i was trying to make is that if you come at this with an accusing tone like that, you are not doing yourself any favours. it’s not about the what, it’s about the how. devs are humans, and psychology plays a big part here. i put the “win” in quotes, since clearly nobody is winning anything.

  • deezee69 Mar 20, 2013 

    I’ve been a xbmc user since its early days (xbmp) and man have things changed since then. I don’t have to ftp to download the program :) . There a lot of awesome skins now with so many features. A lot of platforms support xbmc now and a lot more improvements and changes have been made. With all of these improvements and changes over the year i have seen a lot more devs and helpers popping which is great. With a improvement here and a improvement there you will get thing stuffing up. This is normal they are called bugs. This time round its the NEW, YES NEW way xbmc handles audio. Last time it was the new addon system and the time before that it was something else new and improved. So why don’t you complainer understand that with new improvement and changes will come bugs. Now thanks to the past few years there is a way to report bugs. NO NO not by complaining here its thru the bug tracker and thru the forum. And if it doesn’t get fixed right away why worry someone maybe with your help will come up with a work around until it does get fixed. I no it takes effort to implement some work arounds but so does writing a complaint. Give it some time and this audio thing will be fixed and a new improvement or change will come along with its own set of problems to complain about. But maybe when that happens, stop for a moment and ask yourself a question how much coding or help have i contributed to xbmc. If you answer is zero then shut the f%$# up, say thank you. Report a bug or talk on the forums and enjoy using a awesome program that cost you no money or took none of your FREE and SPEARE time to develop. Guys don’t forget that windows has bugs, apple tablets have bugs, my Samsung galaxy 2 has bugs and we paid for all of those.
    So to all the devs and helpers of xbmc don’t let the hater and complainer put you down your contribution is very much appreciated. Once again thank you l love xbmc and an thankful for everything it comes features, bugs and all.

  • monkeysweat Mar 20, 2013 

    anyone with windows 8 crashing? 12.0 never had a problem,,, 12.1, crashed 2x so far, once while watching an standard def file,, and once while idling on the menu

  • monty Mar 20, 2013 

    @BadServo, your advice was a lifesaver. Confirming that all XBMCBuntu auto login start is fixed after apt-get dist-upgrade!

  • Ghostdivision Mar 20, 2013 

    No real issues but then again I did not have any issues with 12.0 other then my windows 7 amd 5800k lost gui audio after sleep, i had to play a file to get it back. Was that fixed or supposed to be fixed in this release? I am still getting that issue.

  • lepaka Mar 20, 2013 

    @monkeysweat

    the problem is not the XBMC but Windows 8 :)

  • romeyp Mar 20, 2013 

    @monkeysweat
    I too currently run Windows 8 and have had 12.1 crash a couple of times while apparently not doing anything that it had been doing under 12.
    For me it crashed twice while moving through menus.
    12 had been pretty solid, and never crashed on me.
    I’m sure they will get the bugs worked out of this shortly.
    Thanks in advance for all the hard work.

  • Oleg Mar 20, 2013 

    Mine crashes all the time…

  • mjgeuze Mar 20, 2013 

    I updated my XBMCbuntu from 12.0 to 12.1. After that I lost DVD playback. All other formats work fine.
    Choosing a DVD movie from a library in most cases won’t start the movie at all, or a black screen appears with only the selection-cursor present. If am lucky, by pressing enter & the next/previous keys you can get to the movie. But this is not always the case.

    In the log there is an error on dvdnav_open, so it seems related to dvd navigation/menus.
    Does anyone has this problem?

    The DVD sources are on a SMB share. Up to Frodo 12.0 everything worked fine.

  • romeyp Mar 20, 2013 

    @lepaka
    As much as I disliked Windows 8 at first, I must say after some tweaks to get rid of Metro UI, and bring back my start button; for all intents and purposes it’s not bad. I truly did hate it at first.
    It starts up, and shuts down very fast, and seems to power through anything else I throw at it.
    Frodo 12 ran solid on my Windows 8 HTPC without issue.
    My best guess is something is running in the background that is a resource hog, and causes the crash.
    The Devs will get it figured out shortly, and all will be well again.

  • Anonymous Mar 20, 2013 

    drn :
    Wow, with 12.1. the CPU usage while idle roughly doubled here and Core Temp shows a power consumption of around three times higher than before the update (i52500k@4.3ghz, win7×64). I even installed from scratch to rule out possible hiccups during the update process, but Vanilla shows the same behavior. I’m actually a little worried here, it’s the first time I hear noise from the fan at all, lol. Can anyone confirm this or do you think it’s an issue with my rig. I can’t think of any recent major changes on my side which might be the cause for this.

    I have the same CPU as you and I’m not seeing any increase. Disable your add-ons one by one until you find the cause.

  • Splif Mar 20, 2013 

    My 3 x Asrock Vision X crashes all the time with 12.1 (Windows 7 64 Bit). Never had a problem with 12.0

  • MsRose Mar 20, 2013 

    Audio issue i had seems to have been fixed, at least now i don’t have to manually change my audio choice each time i plug in bluetooth headphones.

    However, i have had two complete crashes with 12.1, and XBMC has always been rock solid for me.

  • ceci lope Mar 20, 2013 

    im having trouble with the sound which i didnt have with 12.0 im running windows xp is there anyway i can change back to 12.0

  • Phil Mar 20, 2013 

    I want 12.1, raspberry pi. The announce page gives location for upgrade instructions, but they arent upgrade instructions, but how to install from scratch

    Anyone have step by step upgrade instructions for raspberry pi raspbmc from 12,.0 to 12.1?

  • Brian Mar 20, 2013 

    My three systems all with different hw crash routinely. I think I may reluctantly return to eden.

  • Martijn Mar 20, 2013 

    LastCoder :
    @Ned Scott
    I know, that these guys a volunteers – and for that very reason its more than ever necessary to concentrate the (limited) power .. and yes, nobody can force no one, it’s only a suggestion otherwise such a project risks to die ..
    You don’t know something about fast forwarding issues ? It’s simply another proof that the resources are overstretched. Ask developer Lars O. or just check this out for example – http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid=158865&pid=1362340#pid1362340. There are a lot of bugs “nobody” knows of but some users. Sometimes I have the impression, that most of the devs don’t use there own product in daily use …
    Just to clarify – I really like XBMC and I really respect this piece of work, but Linux is a great piece of work too and nobody would reject criticism – you didn’t understand that this is an elementary part of opensource and community projects ..

    I vote we keep this bug in juts for you :)

  • mike Mar 20, 2013 

    LoL, no you may disagree with how some one is acting, but to turn around and be as contrite, and provocative as the other person in your reply I think is what he was getting at (Does an adult keep screaming at a 2 year old when they know it’s usually not a winning prison or do they calmly wait until the child calms down and then steps in to calmly resolve the issue?).

    I am sorry if I was the one the Dev up there was Commenting on I don’t think the sun shines out my a$$, but as a fellow Dev (of android) I found it shocking that the uninstall of frodo was unclean. With all the devs working in things as you point out not using their own code explains a lot. Granted you work for free, but you have set certain expectations of quality with previous releases and to not see the same for this one (in my usage and for me I can’t speak for everyone) shocked me. Being able to cleanly uninstall code is a very basic feature that would be caught if say a thorough testing regiment were in place (not saying there isn’t one, but thought they would have caught the issue if there was). Don’t tell me nightly builds are not supposed to be tested at all (well maybe in this case, but then again if my nightly builds fail people could lose an entire mobile device so that is different). I can’t wait to test my code when done and exclusively use my own ROM because I enjoy what I do, (if I had multiple I would use them inter-changably). If that ever changes I would not develop anymore. Sorry you sound pretty unhappy.

    From what I have seen let me also say that yes even know this is a free product that if there is no coordination between at least a core group that can try top help keep all the other ones working on their own parts in some kind of order that yes open source projects suffer (see Mozilla for probably the best example of how to run an open source free will community around core product).

    @spiff

  • mike Mar 20, 2013 

    @mike proposition *

  • Dush Mar 20, 2013 

    I’m getting random crashes in XBMC now, windows just says error has occured. Nothing seems to trigger it. Reverting back to 12.0

  • mike Mar 20, 2013 

    Oh and devs don’t hold all the cards if they want to expand their user base or eventually make money off of their work of course if you don’t care well can’t stop you there the drain spiral is inevitable (sorry forgot that) /end.speech

  • matt Mar 20, 2013 

    @Dush
    mine was crashing in windows 7 but instead of reverting i am trying a nightly build to see if this fixes the problem

  • Tanglin Mar 20, 2013 

    I am also getting stability issues with 12.1 that I did not have in 12.0. One definite, possibly 2 crashes.

    I am sure devs are looking at this so I will hold off reverting to 12.0 for now, unless it gets worse.

  • cotdagoo Mar 20, 2013 

    getting random crashes now too.. going to try nightlies instead

  • Dave Mar 20, 2013 

    As others have said, I’m getting windows 8 / 12.1 crashes. Most noticeably on startup, xbmc hangs and is eventually reported as not responding and closed. This occurs about 70% of the time.

    12.0 did not have this issue. If nobody else has submitted debug logs for the issue let me know and I’ll upload some.

  • Tanglin Mar 20, 2013 

    Tanglin :I am also getting stability issues with 12.1 that I did not have in 12.0. One definite, possibly 2 crashes.
    I am sure devs are looking at this so I will hold off reverting to 12.0 for now, unless it gets worse.

    I meant to mention this is with Windows 7, not 8.

  • S Chr Mar 20, 2013 

    Also getting crashes randomly under Win 7 (64-bit). Sometimes at idle; sometimes during playback… Reverting to 12.0 sorts this. Have PVR (MediaPortal back-end) enabled (though don’t think that’s related…)
    Runs great on both my iPad and iPad 2, however! Thanks!

  • monkeysweat Mar 20, 2013 

    @lepaka @romeyp Windows 8 definitely has some growing pains to it, wouldn’t recommend from anyone happy with 7 to upgrade, although, I actually like the metro interface and works well on my TV, I do find that windows 8 manages my 6 hard drives alot better than what 7 did (transferring files, putting them to idle) – seems to quickly cache to RAM for transfer so everything *almost* seems to be like a SSD for file transfers and unzipping and all that other HTPC stuff. I do miss Aero Glass, I really liked the see through effect, but other than that I wish there were just a few less swipe from the edge commands, a little weird to do with a mouse but not really that bad on a keyboard.

  • BillyX Mar 20, 2013 

    What happend to tho speed? While the 12.0 version was annoying slow navigating menu on my well equipt pc, this version flys!

  • Onizuka Mar 20, 2013 

    +1 Also getting random crashes on 12.1 which didn’t happen on 12. Multiple instances running Win7 x64. Lets get a proper thread going for logs, etc.

  • Ian Darbey Mar 20, 2013 

    @Ned Scott
    Safe to assume Gotham will have the up to date ffmpeg fix for the channel change issue? Is the last step for full WAF for me.

  • natethomas Mar 20, 2013 

    Debian packages :

    Still no 12.1 source ?

    Apologies. It was an uploading oversight. They should be there now.

  • natethomas Mar 20, 2013 

    mike :

    Oh and devs don’t hold all the cards if they want to expand their user base or eventually make money off of their work of course if you don’t care well can’t stop you there the drain spiral is inevitable (sorry forgot that) /end.speech

    With XBMC, most devs really don’t have any interest in making money off their work. This is entirely about making the best media center better. And “better” is entirely determined by what the people who do the work think. I know it’s pretty hard to get out of the “I am a customer” mindset, but this is really a project where everyone, from the most non-geek user to the most genius coder, is expected to positively contribute, and when a person doesn’t positively contribute, the ignore flag goes up.

  • natethomas Mar 20, 2013 

    mike :

    (see Mozilla for probably the best example of how to run an open source free will community around core product).

    Totally. We’ll definitely follow that model, the moment Google gives us our 4 billion dollars.

  • mike Mar 21, 2013 

    @natethomas right, understood, I don’t do ROM work because there is money in it. I do it out of love for the work I do. I also added or exchange their user base. Please don’t get me wrong this is awesome work with decent code. I am just noticing what I have work other projects who tried to do the fully socialist model (everyone just does there own thing with no collective aim or goal. ” to make it the best” isn’t really a goal it is more of a given of course you want to be ” better than the next guy” for bragging rights and all, but what does that really mean to this project? Do you want to offer the most online device options? Do you want awesome PVR capability? Have it tin on the most devices? Have the most flexible interface? Etc. that also doesn’t mean you can’t do it all, but knowing where the consensus is so you can achieve whichever goal now quickly and try to maybe avoid duplicate work, or doing too many things at once may cause one thing to create a bug in another and maybe as a group you would rather take one thing gadget than another. It’s like anything in life really, let’s say I want to build a house and a bunch of friends all come to help. If we don’t stop and draw up a basic plan one guy may try to say build a wall before the foundation is fully set costing the group time energy better spent elsewhere to clean up and fix things if the wall fell in. That type of thing.

  • mike Mar 21, 2013 

    @natethomas It wasn’t a customer mindset that had me post that, it was a feature requesting statement about a feature I really miss that I hoped might be easy to implement again, LoL, you guys seem touchy (not trying to anger anyone just how this whole deal is coming across to me).

    Sorry to have ruffled feathers just thought feedback would be appreciated is all, just some feedback about what I liked that I no longer saw (and thought if I might have missed maybe someone could tell me if it was in a different place or under a different name sheesh.

  • mike Mar 21, 2013 

    If I was really upset and felt that negatively about it I wouldn’t have bothered to find the place where I could post I would just work on finding something different and not bothered to say anything (or work to more thoroughly explain my thinking since what I said appeared to have been taken in a way I didn’t intend).

    Maybe this will help, hey guys I really liked having premium streaming services like Netflix and Hulu as I saw in a previous version, could this be brought back, or am I missing something because that is one of my primary uses and without it I miss half the reason I personally use XBMC for? I was just being more succinct and blunt.

  • Ned Scott Mar 21, 2013 

    @mike
    I think I see where you’re going with this. To be fair, most users aren’t aware that we are constantly presented with this situation all the time: Be more formal and more organized/powerful/efficient, while at the same time being a fun, community loving project that people want to work on. And we’re doing it. It’s a hard balance sometimes, but every release we get more organized and formal about various stuff, while still allowing an open and welcoming environment for collaboration to thrive, and still looking for ways to improve.

    For example, v12 had a “release master” for the first time. One dev chosen who made sure what went in for v12 was appropriate and to create clear deadlines and expectations for various things.

    Another example, we’re playing around with different ways to allow the public to see our internal discussions (the team dev/read-only forum), so they can see how we do stuff, and thus open that to review from the whole community (hopefully constructive).

    Our newly reorganized Foundation Board of Directors are appointing specific team members for specific tasks (not forcing, of course, but so far it’s going great).

    Internally we’re pushing to document what everyone does, in case someone ever disappears we have backups and things don’t fall apart, etc, or even to just better understand the responsibilities that everyone has.

    We certainly are looking at other successful organizations for inspiration on how to organize ourselves. There are many great projects before us, and even “after” us, who have successful organization tactics that we can learn from.

    Hopefully, as we continue down this path, and at the same time hopefully get a lot of it documented so we can show more of our inner workings to everyone else, we’ll all be able to better understand how this fits together.

  • Ned Scott Mar 21, 2013 

    @mike
    As for your specific issues on Android, if you can point to a forum post (or start one), I’ll see what I can do as far as collecting data and presenting it to our devs.

  • privateplaces Mar 21, 2013 

    12.1 also randomly crashes for me (in the middle of playing video, or when only moving through the menu’s)
    downgraded to xbmc 12 untill this is fixed

  • vicbitter Mar 21, 2013 

    Generally, I don’t like to comment about people’s behaviour but there seems to be more & more folks (such as @lastcoder) who just want to complain about how *BAD* XBMC is… XBMC is an open source project and therefore open to everybody to contribute. That does not mean you have to be a coder to help out. What about contributing to the Wiki… Or being a proper beta tester by working through test cases (yes, you’ll probably need to write some of them) so that functionality can be fully tested… When issues/bugs are found then write them up in trac giving the detailed steps to reproduce along with the debug logs so the devs can have a hope of fixing.

    Oh finally, when a person says “I am a developer” as part of their argument but couldn’t possibly contribute to XBMC because they don’t know the first thing about Video/Audio development… What a crock of Sh*t… XBMC is a complex project with a lot of subsystems that do not require such knowledge, get in there and help out…

    XBMC is awesome… Yes, there are issues but that is the world of software… I have seen a lot of commercial media players with bigger problems… XBMC moves from strength to strength and will only continue to get better if as a community we all chip in and help out. All that complaining does is pi** people off!!!

  • Bardock Mar 21, 2013 

    First of all thanx fot this wonderful software. The only question i have befor i am updating. All the changes i made for Confluence, will they be gone again afther the update? From eden to frodo, I did it all over again and since it works great for me, I only update if I don’t lose it again.

    Thanx again

  • BillF Mar 21, 2013 

    Hear, hear. Even if though he is a Victorian, this guy is spot on. @vicbitter

  • mike Mar 22, 2013 

    @Ned Scott Yeah, this seems
    to have started add misunderstanding my comment, and I can understand it as I know how the ” general public” treats open source software forums so I know that sheet a good deal of negativity it is hard to remain objective at times. I just did not appreciate the further extrapolation of the semi rant that happened so I was not only partially defending my comment (yeah I should have been more articulate, but after a long day was just trying to start the conversation and if it was a simple matter of missing something it would be fine, and if future information was needed I could come back and begin to provide it you get the idea).

    The further talks on open source and moving forward type stuff was also in defense of itself add again I understand since the first impression was based on misinterpretation end that created bad feelings it seemed like folks were more interested in nit picking smaller points within the overall statements I was making rather than the overall points I was trying to make (how it came across to me anyways), and again understandable after dealing with knuckleheads who can be very aggravating in their many different ways (I see plenty myself here you are donating massive amounts if your own time to publish awesome free code and they slam you for silly reasons as if they are paying you standard wages for programming what they just downloaded installed and utilized totally free of charge.

    As you can tell I as used to over explaining myself because of the aforementioned reasons. I may get interested in helping with the code, but pretty slammed on my end with my own projects. I would be more than happy to test, generate logs, discuss features, bugs, possible fixes, and generate any documentation, etc. Even if I don’t get in to code contributions as time allows if you would like that sort of help. Please email me and let me know.

    Also, thank you for taking the time to discuss things back and forth without dismissing me out of hand as that in itself shows the dedication and care you have for the project.

  • mike Mar 22, 2013 

    @vicbitter
    I agree with most of what you said, bit for myself for instance I don’t have time to get aquatinted with another complex project, it’s code, what is being done, then worrying it testing it and pushing it back. There can be a lot that goes in to that sort of thing. Just like I wouldn’t expect you to be able to just pick up the source of my entire OS, understand what I have done and just begin to fix it without having to spend time getting to know it. So, if you cane to me and said ah man, I really liked a feature you included before, why isn’t it there I really liked it.

    This is not to day you don’t have a legit complaint there are those who may say oh I had an issue and soo therefore you suck and your code sucks. Those type of posts help no one and make the poster look worse than the developer. I was just adding my 2 cents as to why I as a developer wouldn’t mind helping with higher level things like bug reports, testing and documentation while at the same time I don’t want to roll my sleeves up and dive in to a new pile of complex coding that I haven’t studied before.

    Personally, I see how much work must have gone in to it just between the initial android releases and Gotham, it really is coming along nicely.

  • mike Mar 22, 2013 

    excuse my typos another late night and didn’t catch all the screw ups from typing using swype on my tablet.

  • vicbitter Mar 22, 2013 

    @mike, I think we are both in agreement… I did say in my post that folks can help out in all sorts of ways not just coding like working on the Wiki, testing, bug reports, etc.

  • deTuin Mar 22, 2013 

    The update commands for XBMCBuntu are not completely clear. It says you should use ” ppa:team-xbmc/ppa”, that will result in something like this:

    sudo apt-get install python-software-properties pkg-config
    sudo ppa-purge -r ppa: ????whatever-ppa-you-have-now?????
    sudo add-apt-repository ppa:team-xbmc/ppa
    sudo apt-get update
    sudo apt-get upgrade
    sudo apt-get install xbmc xbmc.bin

    What should one use for “????whatever-ppa-you-have-now?????”, should you also use “ppa:team-xbmc/ppa” there?

  • teaguecl Mar 22, 2013 

    12.1 on XBMCBuntu won’t play videos from my HDHomerun anymore. Playback starts, but quits after about 10 seconds. Worked on 12.0

  • fichtenelch Mar 22, 2013 

    @Dave
    Also getting constant crashes at startup under Mac OS X 10.6.8 32 bit (Mac Mini), reverting to 12.0 resolves this issue.

  • dandirk Mar 22, 2013 

    Dharma (Linux live) is still probably the most “stable” version of XBMC I have used in my home, it would run 24/7 with rarely a reset required.

    Eden didn’t need as many tweaks but had stability issues for me (lock ups while idle etc), had pretty big nvidia/ION issues, had to switch to openelec. Frodo has the great audio engine which is awesome (worth some growing pains), no nvidia issues but still has some stability issues, not a huge deal just a reset every week or so. I look forward to seeing if I get the dharma stability back with 12.1!

    I honestly really wish there was a Linux live version, it was stable and fast as heck and did exactly what I wanted it to do, run xbmc with no fuss install.

  • Tony Mar 22, 2013 

    Cant get it to work what so ever, i see gray XBMC icon then it just stops answering. Every time, tried installing 3 times with same result.

    Using x64 windows 7.

  • R R-S Mar 23, 2013 

    @dandirk Use OpenElec – I used Linux Live previously

  • Greg Mar 23, 2013 

    fichtenelch :
    @Dave
    Also getting constant crashes at startup under Mac OS X 10.6.8 32 bit (Mac Mini), reverting to 12.0 resolves this issue.

    fichtenelch :
    @Dave
    Also getting constant crashes at startup under Mac OS X 10.6.8 32 bit (Mac Mini), reverting to 12.0 resolves this issue.

    I’m on Mac Mini OS X 10.8.3 and same crash issue. 12.1 crashes before opening. Console shows:

    23/03/13 10:10:19.639 PM XBMC[310]: CPSGetCurrentProcess(): This call is deprecated and should not be called anymore.
    23/03/13 10:10:19.639 PM XBMC[310]: CPSSetForegroundOperationState(): This call is deprecated and should not be called anymore.
    23/03/13 10:10:20.345 PM com.apple.launchd.peruser.501[153]: ([0x0-0x30030].com.teamxbmc.xbmc[310]) Exited with code: 255

  • Ed Mar 23, 2013 

    Upgraded to 12.1 and random freezing when playing dvds ripped to hard drive where didnt have an issue with 12.0, Have downgraded till its resolved, but awesome app thanks

  • At1bob Mar 23, 2013 

    To everyone who is contributing to XBMC… It runs great on my Pi! http://www.raspbmc.com/ THANK YOU for everything!

  • DavidT99 Mar 23, 2013 

    Thanks you so much for this update, I installed it on my test HTPC and played with it for a couple of days with no issues and have now installed the update on my other three HTPC’s. I can’t comment on stability just yet but I have noticed that XBMC start up and shutdown is much quicker (Aeon Nox skin).

  • ral Mar 24, 2013 

    anyone knows a repository with 12.1 for Ubuntu 10.4 lucid ?

    the usual ppa:nathan-renniewaldock/xbmc-stable has only 12.0

    thanks

  • moises Mar 24, 2013 

    tengo un tototv el xbmc reproduce lento en 420p y en adelante existe alguna forma de que pueda arreglarlo o cambiar el reproductor
    NOTA: el reproductor del toto funciona bien en sus aplicaciones multimedia y en internet

  • Craig Staszkiewicz Mar 25, 2013 

    It still won’t scan items to the music library for files stored on an FTP server and I’ve since discovered it won’t connect to webdav sites. Sticking with 11 still.

  • Markus Mar 25, 2013 

    Doesn’t even open in Mac OS 10.8.3

  • Sean Mar 26, 2013 

    It looks like xbmc 12.1 for Android video hardware decode is not running properly,and it’s fine on 12.0 on my android TVBOX(Amlogic 8726-M3).

  • jambo1082 Mar 27, 2013 

    Tried both raspbmc and openelec 3.0.0 on raspberry pi and they both crash randomly :(

  • Dave Mar 27, 2013 

    Not able to download, have tried a couple times on different computers, gives generic error of xbmc-12.exe couldn’t be downloaded. Trying to download windows version, gets to 100%, then this message.

  • dave read Mar 28, 2013 

    Alright thanks for this guys. I hang out at isozone.come so I just wanted to give a quick shout out saying thank you for the work you’ve guys have done around here.

  • emir Mar 28, 2013 

    hi i just downloaded the new xmbc frodo 12.1 and now i cant get conected to the internet pc is working fine its conecting but the xmbc wont please help i am new to this thank you guys you are the best

  • S Chr Mar 28, 2013 

    My prior crashing issues have, as promised by the team, been resolved; presumably as part of add-on auto-updates (though I’m not sure).
    No major complaints, then – this release (12.1) is excellent; thanks guys!

  • Chels Mar 31, 2013 

    seems to work perfectly until a couple of minutes it will hang and crash. Seems to happen faster for scrapping.

    ERROR: Parse: Could not find scraper function NfoUrl

    Pity..

  • selim Mar 31, 2013 

    Hi i’m using XBMC on Windows as Media Center,

    but i’m missing an iPod support.

    XBMC would be almost complete with it!

  • GS test Mar 31, 2013 

    XBMC 12.1 – Now Even Better | XBMC

  • Jay Mar 31, 2013 

    Using iPad. Navi-x do not work anymore.

  • Chris Mar 31, 2013 

    Upgraded to XBMC 12.1. Mostly working great, but I’ve lost my HD audio bitstream (worked fine on 12.0, now just hisses on all speakers). Anyone else having similar problems?

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