XBMC 12.0 – Frodo

Posted By: Nathan Betzen on Jan 29, 2013 in Site News

Everyone at Team XBMC is proud and excited to announce the long awaited XBMC 12 “Frodo.” Features for XBMC 12 include:

  • HD audio support, including DTS-MA and Dolby True-HD, via the new XBMC AudioEngine (OSX/iOS not yet available)
  • Live TV and PVR support
  • h.264 10bit (aka Hi10P) video software decoding for anime
  • 64bit support in OSX to match the 64bit support in Linux
  • Improved image support, allowing the database to accomodate numerous additional image types and more interesting and complex skins
  • Support for the Raspberry PI
  • Initial support for the Android platform
  • Improved AirPlay support across all platforms, including AirPlay audio in XBMC for Windows to match the other platforms
  • Improved controller support in Windows and Linux
  • Advanced Filtering in the library
  • Video library tags to complement movie sets
  • Advanced UPnP sharing
  • Default video languages now match the language being used by XBMC
  • Translations now powered by Transifex

A Shout Out to Our Friends and Sponsors

With this release, we’d like to single out a few friends and sponsors who went a very long ways to make Frodo a reality.

To start, we’ve added two entirely new users bases with Frodo. The first was the Raspberry Pi platform. It’s rare when a registered charity can do something as incredible as create a piece of hardware that’s got thousands of people salivating. It’s absolutely unheard of when that piece of hardware pops out as the single least expensive means of running XBMC ever. Thanks to the Raspberry Pi Foundation for their efforts and their support!

The second new platform is XBMC for Android. The simple fact of the matter is, XBMC for Android might not exist as a working port right now if it weren’t for the decision of Pivos Technology to employ two XBMC Team members fulltime to make it happen. Of course, countless other Team Members and non-Team coders have contributed to the code base both before and after that initial decision, but it was Pivos who gave our developers the necessary man hours to make XBMC for Android a reality.

In addition, in an unheralded move, Pivos has gone above and beyond the standard sponsor requirements and donated enough XIOS DS‘s to the Foundation so that every current XBMC Team member, regardless of skill set (from developers to wiki maintainers to testers), has or will have an Android device to tinker with and test things out on.

Finally, there are the friends and sponsors who provide all the data that makes XBMC what it is, including TheTVDB, TheMovieDb, Fanart.tv, and TheAudioDb, among so many others. In particular, we’d like to acknowledge Weather Underground who stepped in to rescue XBMC when we lost our last weather host and also WebHostingBuzz and Bytemark Hosting, the webservers who make XBMC.org possible.

Thanks to you all!

Conclusion and Download

To get XBMC 12 Frodo, please visit our download page.

Check out our changelog for a more complete list of updates for XBMC 12.

Let us know what you think of XBMC 12 in the comments below, or, if you like, via the donation button at the top of the page.

If you have any problems read the Frodo FAQ, the Raspberry Pi FAQ, or the Android FAQ, depending on your version, and don’t hesitate to report them in our forums and report verified bugs in Trac.

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Discussion - 243 Comments

  • Flying_Hellfish Jan 29, 2013 

    Amazing turnaround guys!

    Two questions regarding upnp sharing, on the client machine:

    1. Will ‘TV Shows’ & ‘Movies’ now appear?
    2. Will watched shows be remembered?

  • Vishal H Jan 29, 2013 

    Great job guys. Can’t wait to install the final version 12.0 and can’t wait to try our new xbmc beta version for v13. Thanks to the team.

  • B4rt Jan 29, 2013 

    Thank you so much! Please keep up the good work. We <3 you.

  • stejoo Jan 29, 2013 

    Totally awesome. Can’t wait to give the software on my Pi an upgrade, it’s been months since I did that.

  • Sean Nielsen Jan 29, 2013 

    Nice,
    This is great news, and can’t wait to hit install :)
    A Big thanks to all who have been working on XBMC, core-skins-scripts-plugins etc.

  • dejitaru Jan 29, 2013 

    Awesome cant wait to get home and install it!

  • Jaap Jan 29, 2013 

    Congrats!

  • Johan Jan 29, 2013 

    Great work guys!

  • Jacco H Jan 29, 2013 

    Congratulations. I just installed it and I am looking forward to enjoy this marvelous piece of software engineering!

  • TheDisneyMagic Jan 29, 2013 

    Fantastic work everyone, I can’t wait to upgrade my network tonight. If I have a SQL backend powering my setup, do I have to do anything different or can I simply upgrade each machine?

  • sdsnyr94 Jan 29, 2013 

    Great Work! … and I really like the announcement picture. Any chance of sharing that, minus the text? I think it would make a really cool background image!

  • dazed Jan 29, 2013 

    Fan-freaking-tastic

  • Nick Jan 29, 2013 

    Congrats to the team!

  • Gary Johnston Jan 29, 2013 

    Congrats!

  • errorhead Jan 29, 2013 

    Thank you for all your hard work. Donation will be a pleasure when payday come…

  • adam Jan 29, 2013 

    is this newer then the RC3 version? not sure….

  • Louis Vezina Jan 29, 2013 

    Thank you for your good work!

  • Nils Jan 29, 2013 

    AMAZING! Best day of the year! Thank you!

  • miappa Jan 29, 2013 

    Awesome work everyone! Yeeehaa! :D

  • phil65 Jan 29, 2013 

    best birthday present I got so far^^
    great work guys.

  • Jakob Jan 29, 2013 

    Yay, first my hole library are gone. It doesn’t work to import the old one. And now when I try to start XBMC, it crashes at startup.
    Perfect!

    Anyway, thanks for a great application!

  • Glenn Lunder Jan 29, 2013 

    Congratulations – and I can’t wait to see what’s next :)

  • Alfredo Talamantes Jan 29, 2013 

    Great job guys! XBMC has come a long way. Now to find a good TV tuner :p

  • FLaSH Jan 29, 2013 

    Just awesome… as always!

  • Johan Jan 29, 2013 

    Great Work!
    Upgrade from v.11 to v.12 worked perfect on ubuntu.
    Thanks!

  • Anastrophe Jan 29, 2013 

    Congratulations! Here’s to a week of fiddling with all the endpoints in my house!

  • S Chr Jan 29, 2013 

    @TheDisneyMagic: First run of the new version will update your MySQL backend automatically; nothing more to it!

    Congrats, Team XBMC!

  • Pop006 Jan 29, 2013 

    AWESOME! congrats on the release and thank you so very much for the entire teams hard work and valiant efforts! God Speed!

  • Stuart Jan 29, 2013 

    Thanks alot guys can’t wait to try it out really looking forward to the PVR support

  • Tacoguy Jan 29, 2013 

    Congratulations!

  • Willem Jan 29, 2013 

    V12 is not working on my ipad 1 with ios 5.1.1, V11was working well. The display stays black when I start XBMC V12. Please advise? Many thanks in advance!

  • sphere Jan 29, 2013 

    Great :)

  • jonathan Jan 29, 2013 

    Amazing Work, the only thing I am still missing is timeshiftling with my dreambox. :)

  • StarChild Jan 29, 2013 

    sweet :)

  • rag1998 Jan 29, 2013 

    Please fix the “Donate” button so we can give something back! Thanks

  • Ray_N Jan 29, 2013 

    Super Awesome Guys!!!
    thank you, thank you….we know you’ve worked hard on this…
    r

  • Drago Jan 29, 2013 

    w000000t you guys are awesome!!! Perfect timing – hadn’t heard anything for awhile and knew it must be close!

  • Anonymous Jan 29, 2013 

    Great work guys. We love you all. Can’t wait to hit install

  • jivauk Jan 29, 2013 

    Great Stuff! Thanks and much kudos to all involved.

    Installed on 2 Windows 7 PCs and 2 Android tablets… yippeee!!! Now off to install on laptop (Win 7) and Netbook (Win XP).

  • Anonymous Jan 29, 2013 

    @adam Yes, it’s newer than RC3.

  • NOC Jan 29, 2013 

    Android is all the way. Second new platform is XBMC for Android.

  • TheDisneyMagic Jan 29, 2013 

    @S Chr
    Thanks very much for the clarification. Was running the rc editions in a virtual environment, can’t wait to use this lil beauty live.

  • jamesd Jan 29, 2013 

    I bought a Pivos XIOS DS because they were supporting XMBC development. With XMBC, this is a great device.

    Congrats on the release.

  • Syed Faisal Hasan Jan 29, 2013 

    Another milestone achieved reinstating the power of open source software developed with a shared spirit and collective enthisiasm.
    Great Job, although not a very old user of XBMC, i give it very high regards for all the countless hours of work and volunteering effort behind it.

    Thanks for this and the future versions.

  • happyshow Jan 29, 2013 

    Thank you!!!

  • hasselhof Jan 29, 2013 

    Going to install it now ! Thank you team xbmc

  • Justin Jan 29, 2013 

    Can we get an ETA on xbmcbuntu? Want to know whether to update just XBMC when I get home from work, or wait for the .iso so I can do a fresh install…

  • Jakob Jan 29, 2013 

    Thanks! Now I got duplicates of everything in my library. And they are pointing at the same location on the disk.

  • ReducedToZero Jan 29, 2013 

    Congrats!

  • edhiewibowo Jan 29, 2013 

    Thank you for this hard work guys. I hope the video rendering will be better than v.11, especially when playing Divx Movies.

  • Rehnmark Jan 29, 2013 

    Great work!

  • tomasz Jan 29, 2013 

    It’ll blow you away with loss of bitperfect flac playback and audio device hogging :/

  • Lloyd Jan 29, 2013 

    Fantastic release! Thanks!

  • Pascal Jan 29, 2013 

    Hey Guys, first of all, great work with the final release.
    Second im al little scared. I used http://quixventure.com/2011/12/configure-a-synology-nas-as-mysql-server-for-xbmc/ to
    let my XBMC devices on atv2 and pc share library database via MySQL on my NAS and the advancedsettings.xml.
    If i install Frodo on all devices, should i do something extra or does my library updates on new start up?
    Im scared to lose my whole database of 6000 movies and 100 series.

    Keep up the good work ;-)

  • Pez Jan 29, 2013 

    When will the xbmcbuntu version be released?

  • David Jan 29, 2013 

    Been waiting for this bad boy for ages! For this I thank you and salute you!

    I just updated XBMC 11 to XBMC 12 Frodo on my Shuttle XS35GT by doing
    sudo apt-get update
    sudo apt-get install xbmc

    Everything starts but I have no sound and all videos are stuttering like crazy.
    If I look under system> settings I have chosen Audio output HDMI But longer down on page it says “error- no device found” under Audio output device and pass-through output device.
    As non Linux expert It’s now even worse after I have tested a few things (no picture). So I have to reinstall everything when the new XBMCbuntu will be available and hope for the best. But if someone have a updated installation guide for Shuttle XS35GT http://breden.org.uk/2011/01/15/shuttle-xs35gt-installing-xbmc-10-0-live-dharma/ let me know :)

  • Kratos Jan 29, 2013 

    Is Confluence the only skin available at this time? Thanks for improving this great software

  • Reza Jan 29, 2013 

    Great work guys. Thanks for your hard work it is much appreciated.

    I had however no sound using the final version of Frodo. DirectSound did not work for me but when i change to nVidia it did. I got Asrock pc so if you have no sound change it in the settings.

  • Zippi Jan 29, 2013 

    This is a great day! Thanx!

  • Andrejus Jan 29, 2013 

    Not correct working not stabiled release

  • Wilhelm Jan 29, 2013 

    Thank you very much. I’ll upgrade very soon.
    Can’t wait for XBMC 13 – Gandalf ;-)

  • Cris Jan 29, 2013 

    Finally!!!!

  • leechguy Jan 29, 2013 

    @adam, yes, this is newer than the Release Candidates. This is the Release, so not a candidate anymore :)
    @Phil65, happy birthday! Keep up the great work with the Aeon Nox skin!
    @Team XBMC, Great stuff guys! No code commits today, guess you’re all drunk partying :) ) You deserve it!

  • Michael.F Jan 29, 2013 

    Thanks! Best Software ever made!! (perhaps i´m a bit exaggerating to make a point)
    I hope i will be able to spare some money to donate! (i´m still in school)

  • darren gold Jan 29, 2013 

    hi guys,
    i have just updated my atv 2 to the latest xbmc frodo 12 and nopw xbmc wont open.
    any support welcome grr
    thanks in advance

  • MU Jan 29, 2013 

    Fantastic release! Thanks!

  • hawkeye_55 Jan 29, 2013 

    Thanks to everyone who made this happen!

    I’m currently running XBMCbuntu with 11.0. I don’t really want to do a new install with the next XBMCbuntu (when it gets released).
    Can I just update XBMC via :

    sudo apt-get update
    sudo apt-get install xbmc

    or do I need to somhow change the PPA’s as they say in the FAQ. Please note, I have no idea which PPA im using now, I figure just the ones that are set in the standard XBMCbuntu 11.0 (still a linux newb)

    thank!

  • Adam Jan 29, 2013 

    @Wilhelm

    XBMC 13 will probably be called Gotham, not Gandalf. They don’t generally use a LOTR naming scheme, they called 12 Frodo because it’s the username of XBMC’s founder.

  • JiSiN Jan 29, 2013 

    awesome!

  • Anonymous Jan 29, 2013 

    @Flying_Hellfish If you mean automatically show up, no – just add the share like any other UPnP server. The metadata and experience should be vastly improved.

    Monitoring client playback is tricky as we’re trying to do this for ALL compatible devices not just XBMC boxen, I’m pretty much there but there was no time to get in to the merge window (which ended two months ago).

  • Leo Jan 29, 2013 

    Thanks for the update… I am having an issue thou.. Once I click on xbmc after the update it just restarts on my apple TV2. Any fix for this?

  • jokono Jan 29, 2013 

    Thank you.

    Slideshow screensaver? In settings, under Pictures, you can configure a slideshow. But, there is no slideshow option in Appearance->Screensaver? Am I missing something?

    Upgrade on Linux Mint was just a simple update. Glad to see my iMon Pad remote still working after the upgrade, too.

    Thanks again. Upgrade on Linux Mint was just a simple update. Glad to see my iMon Pad remote still working after the upgrade, too.

  • nickr Jan 29, 2013 

    Good work XBMC team!

    Guys this is not a support channel, try http://forum.xbmc.org

  • Steven Jan 29, 2013 

    darren gold :
    hi guys,
    i have just updated my atv 2 to the latest xbmc frodo 12 and nopw xbmc wont open.
    any support welcome grr
    thanks in advance

    having the same issue here on my XP machine

  • a8hnaios Jan 29, 2013 

    Great work. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
    I know what I’m doing tonight! :-)

  • jokono Jan 29, 2013 

    I absolutely do NOT want to sound like an ingrate — I’ve enjoyed xbmc since Camelot, and appreciate all the hard work that goes into it….

    I really miss the option to go directly to Files when selecting Video in Confluence. I also miss the various backgrounds that used to be displayed in Confluence — it seems you can only have one background now? A Confluence-Eden skin option would be most welcome.

    Thank you.

  • Yu Tendo Jan 29, 2013 

    Any ETA for XBMC 13? – just kidding ;) – nice job :)

  • ozybard Jan 29, 2013 

    Thanks and well done to all concerned in the development of Frodo. The integration of PVR into XBMC is a game changer for me and my family.
    XBMC Frodo will replace my mythtv installation in the next few days. Looking forward to seeing where all these talented developers take this product in the future.

    Donation to follow

    Thanks again

  • Bucky2003 Jan 29, 2013 

    Thanks for all the work getting this release out. Updated my ATV2 and it is working great.

  • Chris Jan 29, 2013 

    Love the new layout and look! Unfortunately, I had to downgrade back to XBMC 11 Eden because it would not play any of my MKV files :-(

  • Anonymous Jan 29, 2013 

    @jokono
    the slideshow screensaver is now available in the addon repo.

  • redtapemedia Jan 29, 2013 

    Love the graphic, just a minor niggle: the quotation marks are pointing outwards, when they should be pointing inwards… bugging the hell out of me!

  • Xbmc4ever Jan 29, 2013 

    Will this be in google play yet ?

  • ikiel Jan 29, 2013 

    @darren gold
    Same problem here!

  • n8 Jan 30, 2013 

    Just Downloaded and looking forward to using the tags in my library.

    Thank you for all the hard work!!!! Love XBMC

    One Question. What happened to all the backgrounds as you switch to video to music, etc. It’s just one background now for all sections.

  • storkshot Jan 30, 2013 

    Tried updating my eden to Frodo and every video I try to play will be choppy w/o audio and will eventually crash. Had this issue when I tried out RC1.

    I tried changing any of my audio output settings (just in case it’s there) and XBMC will crash as well. I try to change anything and the program will crash :( I’m using windows 8 pro. Will try again (change the folder permissions just in case that’s the issue)

  • nedscott Jan 30, 2013 

    At least half the questions being asked here are answered in the three main FAQ links in the blog post.

  • Anonymous Jan 30, 2013 

    Have no audio for all of my movies. All mkv. Windows 8 pro 64-bit

  • John Jan 30, 2013 

    Great Work!!

  • Tony Jan 30, 2013 

    Thanks a lot!

  • Bjorn Jan 30, 2013 

    Great stuff! You are spoiling us! Donation incoming.

  • Nate Jan 30, 2013 

    Congrats guys its fantastic. Nothing more can be said :-)

  • burke Jan 30, 2013 

    Just wanted to say thank you.

    This is the best peace of software I ever used!

    Thank you and keep up the good work :)

  • Stuart Jan 30, 2013 

    Installed it worked great, but after I installed Updatebegone it won’t even load keep getting kicked off every time!

  • daggis Jan 30, 2013 

    @David
    I have the same experience as you on my Shuttle XS35GT. This bug regarding “no audio-device found” was also present at the release candidate of XBMCbuntu :(

  • EricV Jan 30, 2013 

    While I like the integration of PVR function into Frodo, I’m a bit surprised it comes out with the following problems:

    1) Correct AMD xbva integration is still not in,
    2) it does not support actual external ffmepg release (1.1+)
    3) With tvheadend git, the channels icons are missing

    I hope some .1 release will soon correct all thoses point and we will not have to wait for month because so much things have been put on hold to achieve the release.

  • Florre Jan 30, 2013 

    What a great work! Thanks to all developers!

  • Jean-Luc Jan 30, 2013 

    Thank you very much, your hard work is very much appreciated ! :)

  • Lukas Jan 30, 2013 

    Great work guys!! Thanks for this big gift!

  • caino Jan 30, 2013 

    is there any way to upgrade the Frodo RC1 o RC2 to the final version?

  • lars Jan 30, 2013 

    Thanks for the hard work!

  • ron Jan 30, 2013 

    @tomasz
    that’s not good

  • angmar Jan 30, 2013 

    @tomasz
    ALSA-support is completely borked in 12.0, it’s not just the audio device hogging. If you do a quick search in XBMC’s Trac you’ll see countless bugs related to Frodo, including many many ALSA regressions, which the developers should be aware of.

    Calling 12.0 a “final release” is a farce – you might call it beta at most. I know that XBMC is free and open source software, but quality/release management is something even the smallest open source projects usually do a better job at. Nevertheless I’d still like to thank the developers for their hard work. But for the next version, please please please pleaaaase make sure you are sorting out regressions before calling something “final” or “stable”.

  • Anonymous Jan 30, 2013 

    @Pez
    Enter xbmcbuntu, add the ppa, and upgrade. Works faster. :)

  • Rod Jan 30, 2013 

    @Pezlin
    Exit xbmc, log into xbmcbuntu, open a terminal window and…

    sudo add-apt-repository ppa:team-xbmc/ppa
    sudo apt-get update
    sudo apt-get upgrade

    Return back to xbmc when complete…

    If you can’t wait for the xbmcbuntu release like me that is… :)

  • Rod Jan 30, 2013 

    @caino
    Read comment 43. :)

  • Timo Jan 30, 2013 

    I can’t really feel happy about Team XBMC releasing a final version in which support for an external TVHeadend server is totally broken when you’re running on the Raspberry Pi (as I imagine quite a lot of people do these days with distributions like OpenELEC making it a piece of cake to install). Especially since this did already work quite well at some point in time.

    Were the TVHeadend users on the Pi just forgotten or what? If you look in the Raspberry Pi section of the forum the corresponding thread has been constantly on the first page with more and more users reporting that this is broken. Bug reports have been filed, logs have been posted but so far I think even just the feedback from the devs that this issue has received is disappointing.

    Well done though for all the other stuff which was done!

  • Anonymous Jan 30, 2013 

    @EricV
    I have Frodo running with external ffmpeg v1.1…

  • marek Jan 30, 2013 

    @tomasz

    your saying Frodo does not support FLAC playback? or has problems with it. I have been using flac files with Eden without problems..

  • Memphiz Jan 30, 2013 

    EricV :While I like the integration of PVR function into Frodo, I’m a bit surprised it comes out with the following problems:
    1) Correct AMD xbva integration is still not in,2) it does not support actual external ffmepg release (1.1+)3) With tvheadend git, the channels icons are missing
    I hope some .1 release will soon correct all thoses point and we will not have to wait for month because so much things have been put on hold to achieve the release.

    @EricV

    Ohh yeah we are here to surprise you – glad we made it again this time *shakes head…*

  • Cyberdial Jan 30, 2013 

    AMD E-350 extremely high load (60-90% CPU)…
    What is XBMC doing in idle??? I don’t want that my mediacenter checks 500 times a second if there has been changed something…? what a stupid update, and there is no way back unless i remove the whole xbmc and use a backup…

  • Jeff Okeson Jan 30, 2013 

    Hi, I’m running into a VERY SLOW refresh rate (4FPS) on Bluray movies only. i have collect a debugger log how can I submit it for review

  • leroy Jan 30, 2013 

    @darren gold
    ok i found out that the problem is plex so u need to uninstall plex then xbmc will work, then install plex again

  • EricV Jan 30, 2013 

    @Memphiz

    Could have added that:

    1) HDTV streaming on the Pi via tvheadend is broken,
    2) depending on nvidia driver version you may be able to get correct refresh rate or not,

    All the bugs I mention are peacefully sitting in in the bug database.

  • Hisham Jan 30, 2013 

    @Cyberdial
    I had a lot of issues getting XBMCBuntu running with Hardware Acceleration on my AMD E-350, the way to do it is as follows:
    After installing XBMCbuntu, log into linux, then do an update from wsnipex’s repository as follows in the terminal window:

    sudo apt-get install software-properties-common
    sudo add-apt-repository ppa:wsnipex/xbmc-xvba
    sudo apt-get update
    sudo apt-get install xbmc xbmc-bin

    Configure GPU to fix video “Tearing”:
    ——————-
    sudo amdconfig –sync-video=on

    Let me know if you have more issues I’ve been troubleshooting that setup for 3 months! :)

  • jokono Jan 30, 2013 

    @Anonymous
    Excellent. Thanks for the heads-up on the Slideshow screensaver. That’s a show stopper, as far as the wife is concerned. :)

  • Chris Jan 30, 2013 

    @Jeff Okeson
    Try switching up your audio settings. It’s far more crucial in XBMC 12 to have the correct audio settings for things to work properly.

  • Hisham Jan 30, 2013 

    @EricV
    To enable XVBA integration, update from wsnipex’s repository using the terminal in Linux:

    sudo apt-get install software-properties-common
    sudo add-apt-repository ppa:wsnipex/xbmc-xvba
    sudo apt-get update
    sudo apt-get install xbmc xbmc-bin

    Configure GPU to fix video “Tearing”
    ——————-
    sudo amdconfig –sync-video=on

  • Craig Beisel Jan 30, 2013 

    Awesome work guys, A+++ job! Bitstreaming audio worked without a hitch. Seriously, better experience than majority of paid packaged software I use.

    (I had really slow HD performance, no sound, and no detect frame rate right after install. I changed by audio and p/t audio settings and everything just worked. An issue with the frame rate auto-change option not working in Ubuntu 12.10 disappeared as well, but that may have been an Ubuntu update.)

  • Anonymous Jan 30, 2013 

    @Anonymous

    Have you tried to decode AC3 audio with it? Bug reported and confirmed by other.

  • EricV Jan 30, 2013 

    @Anonymous

    Have you tried to play AC3audio (e.g in HDTV). It crashes. Debain ffmpeg maintainer had to roll back to 1.0x. Bug opened and confirmed by ffmpeg devs.

  • Munton Jan 30, 2013 

    Quick Question: In previous version I was able to “tie” the Video button to “Files.” This was even true in Eden, but I am not seeing it in Frodo. Am I missing something or it is just gone entirely?

  • toto67 Jan 30, 2013 

    PVR support, lol:

    (XBMCBuntu)

    Missing files that required to build driver: /lib/modules/3.5.0-22-generic/source/drivers/media/dvb/dvb-usb/dvb-usb-common.h dvb-usb/dvb-usb.h dvb-usb/dvb-usb-ids.h

    -> On WMC: Connect USB-DVB>Open WMC>Search Channel>Watch Live TV….

  • User Jan 30, 2013 

    Just to give a heads up, I was installing this remotely on a Windows 7 machine using Remote Desktop, and every time I tried to start XBMC is resulted in a fatal error. This was linked to being logged in through Remote Desktop I think, so anyone trying the same, log in directly to run XBMC and it works.

  • Ausername Jan 30, 2013 

    Another spectacular release folks. Great work. Ignore the whiners. Thanks for making XBMC the best media center out there.

  • Memphiz Jan 30, 2013 

    EricV :
    @Memphiz
    Could have added that:
    1) HDTV streaming on the Pi via tvheadend is broken,
    2) depending on nvidia driver version you may be able to get correct refresh rate or not,
    All the bugs I mention are peacefully sitting in in the bug database.

    500 + open tickets and hundreds of reports in the forum – maybe 10 active devs at a time (though – big part of all bugs are specific to only one or 2 developers). All those active developers are working full time in their day jobs. Sometimes i really wonder what people think we are. Well we are no company… (why do i even read here *wonders*)

  • Daniel Jan 30, 2013 

    I’ve upgraded my xbmc to the new frodo on apple tv2 and now xbmc won’t work it just reboots the apple tv any suggestions

  • Anonymous Jan 30, 2013 

    After installing 12 on my windows 8 pro 64-bit setup (onboard audio) I installed 12 on my windows 7 64-bit system. Still no sound. Reinstalled 11 and have sound

  • Hamish Jan 30, 2013 

    Upgraded from version 11 /w mySQL to 12, followed instructions in the WIKI and it all updated flawlessly, Big thanks to all the devs for your hard work.

  • paco Jan 31, 2013 

    I was so excited for v12. I exported my libraries and imported them into a fresh install. After 2 days of playing through all the problems, I’ve reverted to v11. This is the worst final release I have witnessed (and I have been using XBMC since the XBOX days). Perhaps too many platforms and too many new features have caused the QC to suffer.

  • Just me Jan 31, 2013 

    Dear whiners and complainers, In this fantastic world with indefinately many choices I found XBMC many years from now. This marvellous Pierce of creature that constantly evolves has brought to me a huge amount of joy. It really hurts to read all complaints every time a new version is released. You always have a choice… There are many alternatives, where the easiest way would be to choose the other MC that suits all your needs. If you need that MC which is “fully grown” and without issues I believe XBMC is not for you. Either use XBMC with a smile or contribute with objective bug reports in the right place or if you are skilled enough contribute with improved code or do look around for another piece of software of your choice.

    Dear team-XBMC, thanks for this fantastic release, my nexus10 also sends greetings to you. Keep up the good work! The truth is out there…

  • eee Jan 31, 2013 

    Hello when i start xbmc frodo iget #Runtime error” and it crasches… what can i do?
    / Thanks

  • Drew Yu Jan 31, 2013 

    What about linux version?
    I waited for a long time, but it seems like there is not linux version.
    I added repository again, but it sill show 2:11.0~git20120321.14feb09-0ubuntu1~ppa1~lucid (xbmc).
    When can I install 12.0 version.

    Anyway, thank you for your hard work..

  • EricV Jan 31, 2013 

    @Hisham

    The problem is that the code base is different and comes from fernetmenta git. I use it already for at least two years ;-) Just wonder why its not merged when openeelc and otehr distro use it. And its a lot better for nvidia too…

  • Anonymous Jan 31, 2013 

    @Anonymous

    No problem, I’ve been using the RCs and UPnP library sharing is indeed awesome, it’s juts missing those two (minor) things to make it complete.

    Keep up the good work!

  • Gasla Kingsted Jan 31, 2013 

    It kept chrashing for me on osx_x86_64 until i removed projectM as my music viz. So that is a tip if you have the same problem

  • oby Jan 31, 2013 

    Memphiz :

    EricV :
    @Memphiz
    Could have added that:
    1) HDTV streaming on the Pi via tvheadend is broken,
    2) depending on nvidia driver version you may be able to get correct refresh rate or not,
    All the bugs I mention are peacefully sitting in in the bug database.

    500 + open tickets and hundreds of reports in the forum – maybe 10 active devs at a time (though – big part of all bugs are specific to only one or 2 developers). All those active developers are working full time in their day jobs. Sometimes i really wonder what people think we are. Well we are no company… (why do i even read here *wonders*)

    Sorry Memphiz :( Sadly, it is simply part of human nature that, one never values a thing which one has not paid for…

    Anyway this is amazing piece of Software, so many facettes of .. how it works, how You guys as a team work, it cahnged the way i look at that black box called tv… and it is still evolving after al theses years. My sincere Thanks and Congratulations to XBMC Team!!!

  • Alex Jan 31, 2013 

    @Jeff Okeson
    Be sure you have DirectX Video Acceleration (DXVA) hardware acceleration enabled, if your OS, codecs and graphics card support it. This is a very common mistake for windows users to have it disable it by default. In H264 and other high definition playbacks, it will give a noticeable performance boost, as will transfer most of the video playback processing to the graphics card. I have a crappy single core celeron 2.1GHz with a low end radeon, and i still manage to get 1920×1080 without any frame loss.
    Incorrect sound processing can also interfere with this.

  • Peerless Jan 31, 2013 

    Thanks for all the great work put into this release. XBMC feels more powerful and responsive than ever.
    Following the instructions on the FAQ should really take care of any issues some users might have.
    I don’t use PVR, so i can’t really say anything about it. Everything else seems flawless so far. :)
    Not an XBMC issue, but i’d really like to see more visualizations for the music though. Milkdrop is great, but it would be a treat if talented programmers could contribute and add more options.
    Thank you, Team XBMC.

  • KCB Jan 31, 2013 

    Thanks for this great version of XBMC.
    Running it at a mini PC with Win XP x64.
    No problems at all!!!

  • Catalyph Jan 31, 2013 

    Awesome Thank you guys so much! Keep u[p the awesome work! donations headed your Way!

  • ashton Jan 31, 2013 

    Update to frodo – but xbmc dont work – only restant the aTV – whats wrong ?
    I Think there is à bug

  • Jeff Okeson Jan 31, 2013 

    @Chris

    Thanks for your reply. When I run V11 everything works great so that leads me to believe I have my windows Audio settings right. would the debegger log infromation shed any light?

  • landauclassic Jan 31, 2013 

    Very nice work. Cheers

  • Eee Jan 31, 2013 

    Why is my xbmc frodo 12 crashing? I get the RUNTIMEERROR when starting it

  • runs Jan 31, 2013 

    Thanks to all the developers of this piece of art!!!!
    It’s the best platform to play music & video files.

  • Kevin Jan 31, 2013 

    After updating xbmc using cydia on Ipad 2nd gen on 5.1.1, when i open xbmc a black screen appears and nothing else.
    Help please

  • Chris Jan 31, 2013 

    @Jeff Okeson
    Ah, I meant changing your audio setting in Frodo. I’d just cycle through them and test playing video to see which one does the trick.

  • ManuH Jan 31, 2013 

    Great work guys, it’s a really fantastic piece of software that I’m using every day and it keeps gettings better and better!

  • Dubs Jan 31, 2013 

    I am convinced I can here sounds (in particular movies) I havent heard with any previous version. Keep up the great work!

  • Robistro Jan 31, 2013 

    Hello guys, I’m new at this but just thought I’d let you all know that I downloaded the android app on my cellphone running version 4.0.4 , dual core processor, 1 gig of memory just to see if it would load/work. It did/does and it worked on my wireless network ‘not wifi’ I dont see any reason to have it on my cellphone but just thought I’d give it a try to see if it would install, load etc…

    Any questions or comments please enlighten me.

    Thanks

  • Barry Jan 31, 2013 

    I’m happy overall with this release BUT smart music playlists take a LOT longer to load than with Eden (sometimes up to 2 minutes). I’ve complained about this before and lodged it as a bug. I can’t work out whether Frodo is accessing the database in a more round about way or if the system is more taxed overall due to higher CPU. For someone who uses these playlists a lot this is very annoying and definitely a backwards step from Eden. Happy with the video section though.

  • ghostface237 Jan 31, 2013 

    Thanks, and a job well done… I am loving it…

  • uomiarz Jan 31, 2013 

    THX !!!!
    Great work , xbmc forever :)

  • X0047 Feb 01, 2013 

    I get a black screen now on my iPad !

  • NineT9 Feb 01, 2013 

    loooooooove it, thanks!!!

  • zepp Feb 01, 2013 

    Back to V11 for me. Features and eye candy is a poor substitute for playback stability/compatibility. Fingers crossed for an early V12.1

  • Simon Feb 01, 2013 

    I know you know – no sound on Windows 7 or 8 64bit. Oh well…

  • kalnas Feb 01, 2013 

    Since updating to ver 12 for ipad 2, xbmc will only run in safe mode. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

  • Pioneer Feb 01, 2013 

    @zepp Same for me, after two different install attempts, I am back in 11. HD Videos keeps freezing in Frodo on my machine.

  • Mikey Feb 01, 2013 

    Well I’ve upgraded two pc’s and both went flawlessly. Win7-8, 3000+ films+ TV.

    New HD Audio works great and I really like the advanced filtering.

    Thank you all so much.

  • Pioneer Feb 01, 2013 

    @Pascal Great, 6000 movies, I am impressed, I am just on 2,000 movies now.

  • Maikel Feb 01, 2013 

    Will all you complainers please keep in mind that this still is FREE software and a lot of people dedicate a lot of free time in this project.

    mentioning that stuff is not working is one (although the forum would be a more appropriate place), but the attitude some (most) people give shows now respect whatsoever.

    All of you developers thank you, I am a happy and thankful user of your project for many years now.
    Willing to buy all of you a beer whenever our paths cross.

    Just my 2 cents

  • Logaan Feb 01, 2013 

    Very-very low speed UPnP browsing!!!! :( ((
    It is worst than it was in version 11!
    Please fix this!

    Always freeze itself under Windows 7 x64!!!!!

    I hope that it is not a final release!

  • robert Feb 01, 2013 

    Maikel :
    Will all you complainers please keep in mind that this still is FREE software and a lot of people dedicate a lot of free time in this project.
    mentioning that stuff is not working is one (although the forum would be a more appropriate place), but the attitude some (most) people give shows now respect whatsoever.
    All of you developers thank you, I am a happy and thankful user of your project for many years now.
    Willing to buy all of you a beer whenever our paths cross.
    Just my 2 cents

    “WORD”

    Lets help the developers fix these ‘bugs’

  • EricV Feb 01, 2013 

    @Maikel

    You do not seem to get the point most people express : why releasing now if/when some problem remains that prevent users to use the new version. OSS has also the culture of release when its ready, release often, etc.

    The people complaining are annoyed because this software is a major part of their digital life otherwise they would not even say a single word.

  • Grim Feb 01, 2013 

    How you can call it “Release”?
    It can’t play flv stream. http://trac.xbmc.org/ticket/13191

  • vicbitter Feb 01, 2013 

    EricV :
    @Anonymous
    Have you tried to play AC3audio (e.g in HDTV). It crashes. Debain ffmpeg maintainer had to roll back to 1.0x. Bug opened and confirmed by ffmpeg devs.

    Yes, media with AC3 audio plays without any issue on my system using external ffmpeg 1.1.1

  • spiff Feb 01, 2013 

    @ericv; sometimes i wonder why i left the project after putting in so much time and dedication (likely 2-3 man-years of work). then i read comments from people like you. thank you for reminding me.

  • EricV Feb 01, 2013 

    @spiff

    My pleasure. Maybe if you fail to understand people (after all I’m not the only one wondering why *now*) this was *indeed* a clever decision. And, it will not make me cry : as anybody else, you did it because you had time, because it was fun, and maybe it even helped you to express your potential :-)

    As an older folk, with some million customer software project behind me, I just tell you this : there are time for new features, time for bugs hunting. And of course the second activity is painful especially if its not your code and even worse if it is not documented… But reporting bugs is the first step to “bug fixing” and unfortunately not everyone has the knowledge to fix all bugs.

  • Arnold Feb 01, 2013 

    Great software installs / works without a problem. Keep up the good work. Thanks!!

  • Anonymous Feb 01, 2013 

    EricV :
    @Anonymous
    Have you tried to play AC3audio (e.g in HDTV). It crashes. Debain ffmpeg maintainer had to roll back to 1.0x. Bug opened and confirmed by ffmpeg devs.

    Yes, media with AC3 audio plays without any issue on my system using external ffmpeg 1.1.1

  • ixnu Feb 01, 2013 

    @EricV – Spare me…

    This release ROCKS! This was the best year EVER for XBMC.

    Finally, finally, finally, all of my sync problems are gone. Gone is my anxiety associated with the anticipation that lip sync MAY be out. Those without OCD have no idea…

    HD Audio works perfectly on all four of my set ups.

    OpenElec has made huge strides and killed off Windows for me and made remote management perfect.

    The support forums and trac site have matured.

    The future is bright if only the next release is half as good as Frodo.

  • Frank (NL) Feb 01, 2013 

    The beta’s weren’t stable, RC’s weren’t stable and the final still isn’t stable! Seriously guys, what happened? As 12 does not add much to the whole XBMC experience I am back to 11. And staying there for quite some time aftyer this debacle.

  • Jack Feb 01, 2013 

    I agree. Stability is a serious issue of Frodo. Sometimes the whole programm freezes. Or menu fades out but never back in. Useless iteration if you ask me. They seem to have lost their way.

  • vicbitter Feb 01, 2013 

    @ericv

    Yes, media with AC3 audio play without any issue on my system using external ffmpeg 1.1.1

  • Brad Feb 01, 2013 

    Hey guys,

    Great work its becoming even better release after release.

    I just wish you could add back in : the settings so you can unselect Videos in the skin. So just Movies, TV Shows are shown.

    Please re add the skin editting feature in settings.

    Thanks again guys

    Keep up the great work.

  • spiff Feb 01, 2013 

    @ericv; you documented the issues on trac. what you are doing here is whining like a stuck up little child because YOUR particular itches were not prioritized. if you have “some million customer software project” behind you, your only contribution had to be at the coffee maker, (or as a project leader *shudders*) cause you are showing absolutely no insight into how software and software development works.

    a software system as complex as xbmc will NEVER, EVER be stable for everybody, even if you restrict your focus to a single hardware platform and follow every software development methodology ever invented at the same time. thinking it can be on the multitude of platforms (os/hardware combinations) xbmc runs on is utopia. really really smart men, much smarter than dumb little me say exactly the same. see e.g. these essays from 1985 http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/przybils/courses/CBD06/papers/p1326-parnas.pdf (don’t mind the context, i.e. you can freely skip the introduction if you want though it does explain who the author is to some extent). that’s back in 1985, when most software systems were child’s play compared to today’s systems in terms of complexity (simply a fact due to available resources).

    thus any software team are stuck with the following dilemma; either you never release a “final” cause whiners who don’t get the nature of software would never leave you alone (first example that comes to mind is mplayer). this typically backfires, cause guess what? whiners will then whine about how there is no final release.

    or you draw the line somewhere, kill off the crash bugs you are aware of, do the sanity checks you can come up with and ship it trying to stick to a pre-decided time line to the extent possible. since none of the issues you mention are show stoppers, they are merely missing features that would be good to have, they were not priorities (and should not have been either).

    here are specific reasons why the first two of these did not make it;
    1) the xvba code is still not up to snuff in terms of code quality. fernetmenta knows this and is working with the rest of the team to make it happen. it’s a slow process but it’s moving along. furthermore, calling this a bug should tell everybody who’s reading this what color the hole you have your head up is. there can’t be a bug in a non-existent feature can there?
    2) external support for ffmpeg is not an officially supported feature. it’s not maintained by the team, as the team know why they keep an internal, heavily (but decreasing over time) patched version in-tree. support for external ffmpeg is maintained by patches from third parties. you can blame the world and thus by inclusion yourself.

    the third likely sits in the add-on so it can be updated in retrospect. there is no reason to let something as small as minor cosmetics delay the release. and again you’re talking about some random tvh git version (not even stating the revision). there could have been 100′s of api changes in the git since the last stable api release. why should anyone waste time on making all of em work?

    the forth is a bug in the rpi firmware. what on earth do you expect the team to do about that?
    the fifth is a bug in the nvidia driver. ditto, what on earth can the team do about that?

    finally, your critique is also highly non-coherent. at one point you want them to release when it’s stable and just a few sentences before you were complaining about how development was stalled due to the stabilization process. make up your mind.

  • Rygrath Feb 01, 2013 

    @spiff
    Bravo! You pretty much nailed it.
    Whiners, even the “old men million people software behind them developer” types have to use some common sense here. HTPC media enthusiasts use a infinite number of configurations specific to their setup at home. There will never be a day when any Media Center package will work with every O/S, hardware, backend piece that people dream up to use together. Look at some of the children whining about how it doesn’t work without even providing the most basic in troubleshooting information. Kids, all of them acting like spoiled kids.

    I got Frodo installed on every Windows 7 and 8 machine (7 total) throughout the house working flawlessly. The main HTPC in the living room is playing all my HD content and HD audio and all I had to do was change the audio output. PVR is working great too.

    In the end, the devs don’t need your “critque” if all you’re going to do is nit pick the little bugs that you’re upset weren’t prioritized for your specific setup and try to tell them how to get the job done properly. And now from Spiff’s post just seems you didn’t have your facts straight to begin with. Meh.

    Anyways, for Team-XBMC, been using your software for many years now and really happy with Frodo. The new image caching system is worth the price of admission alone. Everyone in the house is complimenting how smooth and lively it feels now. And the skinners seem to be getting creative with the new tools at their disposal.

    From my household to you, thank you for the time and effort you have put into this great piece of software. Our digital lives are better because of it. Not to mention the smugness you get when friends constantly say “I WANT” when they see it all in action.

  • DB Feb 01, 2013 

    @spiff
    As a user since the xbox media player days, I think I speak for a lot of people in thanking all the developers for their hard work and dedication over the years. It has been a part of my household entertainment systems for almost 10 years and couldn’t imaging myself without it. It has evolved into a product that is light years ahead of any commercially available media center software and still remains 100% free. Thanks!

  • EricV Feb 01, 2013 

    @spiff

    1) Half of the world run AMD graphics and cannot use official XBMC on linux. Not a bug OK. Not even a priority? Fixes is there and is running fine for openelec…
    2) external ffmpeg works better than internal one for a least a year, so you could review your position. Besides debian will reject the code as is because of internal ffmpeg and you probably know it as well as any distrib that takes intellectual property and licensing carrefully…
    3) This is not a bug in the firmware but in omxplayer as far as I know
    4) This is a limitation in XBMC code that has never integrated the needed nvidia library. Myth has overcomed the problem for years. You annoy almost another half of Linux users…

    So, I beg to disagree with you and I think you just showed your inability to be concerned by possible users problems.

  • AnitEricV Feb 01, 2013 

    @EricV -get a life. This is free software that works great for most. Sorry you have crappy AMD video hardware but if you really knew anything about linux, you would have purchased something with an NVIDA GPU.

    You’re full of spite and delusion bonded together by ignorance. Get over yourself and BE THANKFUL. Things will get better, things always change, and this won’t be the last release of XBMC. Now go get a hug from your mommy to make you feel better.

    @XBMC Team
    Ignore the idiots. THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK!

    @spiff
    You can’t argue with a crazy person. Insulting them is much more fun!!!

  • nedscott Feb 02, 2013 

    @Kevin
    @X0047
    @kalnas
    Uninstall Display Out

    @Barry
    If I had to guess I would say something is damaged in one of the databases. There are cases were things will still work (or mostly work), but will run MUCH slower when one of the databases gets damaged.

    @Grim
    From what I understand, FLV stream support is always been “hacky” due to the nature of FLV. There’s not a lot we can do about it, and we certainly aren’t going to delay a release for what is now a minority format that doesn’t affect most users. However, we will do our best going forward in fixing such issues to the best of our abilities.

  • nedscott Feb 02, 2013 

    @zepp
    @Pioneer
    @Logaan
    @Frank (NL)
    @Jack

    Guys, please post these issues to the XBMC forums so that they can be looked at and fixed. While XBMC will always have some bugs, we do our best to make sure there are no freezing/crashing bugs in XBMC’s core (I think some add-ons can cause freezing, but none of the XBMC repo add-ons should). The reason why there was such a big gap between RC3 and final release was because of one or two final “crashing” bugs that the Team devs needed to fix (and they did). If there were others they either weren’t reported or were misunderstood/didn’t have enough info for us to reproduce/verify. We rely on user testing, due to the massive amounts of possible configurations out there for XBMC systems, so we need your help and info if those issues are to be resolved. In some cases, it might not even be an issue in the core of XBMC, but something we can help you with now.

  • Cal Feb 02, 2013 

    Thanks to all the devs and contributors to this amazing project.

  • dan1son Feb 02, 2013 

    Lovely work as always. I’ve installed Frodo onto an Acer Revo ION box (xbmcbuntu… finally yanked my own ubuntu install off in favor of yours), ATV1 with crystalHD card (crystalbuntu1), an AppleTV2, a Macbook Air, a Raspberry Pi, and a Windows 8 desktop. So far it’s been super stable, mysql backend DB has been working wonderfully across the board, and offline stored DDS artwork has also been perfect. Videos stream around the house over ethernet, DECA (directv’s MOCA implementation), and wireless (both 2.4ghz N and 5.0ghz N). Videos are stored on a Linux server with a bunch of drives using NFS. I also have an ATSC tuner and tvheadend on the server, which is used on the computers and the tv without a directv receiver.

    I just wanted to thank you for an insanely fantastic piece of software that my family of 4 can’t live without anymore. My small children are confused when they go to someones house that doesn’t have immediate access to all of their movies and tv shows. The 3 year old can pick up any of the remotes in the house and get his stuff going with XBMC. He never presses the “Watch TV” button on the remotes.

  • KCB Feb 02, 2013 

    Hi ALL,

    It’s said before but I think it can’t be said to much….

    This XBMC project is maintained and upgraded by VOLUNTEERS who have ” real jobs” in day time.
    They are all doing this in the’re SPARE TIME and it is there HOBBY.

    On top of that…. ANYONE can participate and help XBMC become even better than it is today.

    So, don’t just cry about something little that doesn’t work for you. There are THOUSENDS (if not millions) of users on this planet who use XBMC without ANY problems. (I’m one of them :-) )

    If you really care….. join the party and contribute. Write some code and HELP.

    DON’T THINK PROBLEMS, THINK SOLUTIONS !!

    And above all….. XBMC is FREE software.
    So, what’s your problem?
    Just try to find something equal to XBMC that costs you nothing….. there isn’t

    I am very glad that I discoverd XBMC en will continue to use it for years and years

    Many thanks to all those guys who spent (and will spend) a lot of time and knowledge in creating en maintaining this great software!

    KCB
    The Netherlands

  • Frank Feb 02, 2013 

    @kcb I’ve said it many times before about free or open source software: there is no reason to not talk about flaws if software is free. None at all. Cost or daytime jobs have NOTHING to do with it.

  • EricV Feb 02, 2013 

    Go back to your kinder garden. Insulting people never brings a solution to the table. As far as hardware goes AMD GPU are very good for HTPC, far superior to ION/ION2 based solutions. And I’m happy with fernetmenta code but not anybody can recompile XBMC. Nvida is indeed beloved by Linux itself and I say XBMC support is crappy. If you want to know why and for solutions look at bug report database. Try to play 24p material on 295 drivers even if you monitor can handle it. Only free solution is Intel BTW… And as far as Linux goes, I run it since 95 …

    At the heart of XBMC is a video player. It should support all hardware platform perfectly especially PC hardware. I just say its not the case and things did not evolve much between 11 and 12 on Linux. On windows, I had problem with RC3 unrelated to new audio setup. On android, I guess for video hardware acceleration gstreamer support will become mandatory but that’s just my view. VLC is struggling with the same problem. At least it does not work with tegra3 hardware.

  • vicbitter Feb 02, 2013 

    EricV :

    Go back to your kinder garden. Insulting people never brings a solution to the table. As far as hardware goes AMD GPU are very good for HTPC, far superior to ION/ION2 based solutions. And I’m happy with fernetmenta code but not anybody can recompile XBMC. Nvida is indeed beloved by Linux itself and I say XBMC support is crappy. If you want to know why and for solutions look at bug report database. Try to play 24p material on 295 drivers even if you monitor can handle it. Only free solution is Intel BTW… And as far as Linux goes, I run it since 95 …
    At the heart of XBMC is a video player. It should support all hardware platform perfectly especially PC hardware. I just say its not the case and things did not evolve much between 11 and 12 on Linux. On windows, I had problem with RC3 unrelated to new audio setup. On android, I guess for video hardware acceleration gstreamer support will become mandatory but that’s just my view. VLC is struggling with the same problem. At least it does not work with tegra3 hardware.

    @EricV, your statement “I just say its not the case and things did not evolve much between 11 and 12 on Linux” is incorrect. One of the greatest enhancements between 11 and 12 has been the inclusion of the AudioEngine! Being able to bitstream HD audio has taken XBMC to the next level for any serious HTPC owner.

  • JackD Feb 02, 2013 

    Although he’s not expressing it well at all @EricV has a point here.

    I mean this with no disrespect to the volunteers at all, after all I’ve been using a program I would happily pay a lot for (and have donated to many times) for free so what I think doesn’t really matter, but it would be nice if we users weren’t used as guinea pigs so often. I’d rather wait another six months than go through the whole upgrade then immediate downgrade due to countless bugs every time there is a release. Next time I’m going to wait around for a month and let everyone else sort it out because it really is a pain and no way to treat those that support you. I want to make it clear that I offer this as a suggestion, not some sort of whiney insult, as everyone is doing a stellar job.

  • C Feb 02, 2013 

    Dear EricV

    I read a lot of the above comments from you and others. You seem close to hostile of the XBMC and the team behind it so why not just go and find a package you DO like and then feel free to report back the glory of your discovery? Posting here won’t help, only annoy a lot of people who DO appreciate the XBMC (yes, me too) so eithe post your bugs on the tracker so they can be locked at or find something that will please you if you can’t find it here? The release is for sure not “of evil” and it do work for many so if you think it can be improved, post to tracker. If you do not like it – find something else. Seems rather simple and straightforward?!

  • spiff Feb 02, 2013 

    1) nope. not a bug. still just a missing features.
    2) yes, which is why the external option was accepted. it has absolutely nothing to do with ip or licensing. it’s about debian’s 100% square policy of no duplication of libraries due to security concerns (which i’m on board with). i never wanted xbmc packaged in debian in the first place since the application in its whole cannot be. i can think of tens of bugs i have traced over the years sterning from packagers blindly replacing internal copies of libraries with system ones (e.g. while external might work better for *you*, it will *not* work better for those things patched, quite a lot of them related to dvd playback).
    3) then i was thinking of a different issue. i guess it slipped under the rader of the single rpi dev (gimli).
    4) not sure what you are referring to, the fact that nvidia failed to implement randr until the 3xx series of the drivers?

    anyways, your claim that i do not understand user issues tells me that this is the last post of mine. you’re clearly reading what you want to read, and not what i write.

    @antiericv; i’m well aware that this is a lost case. but hopefully i can open some eyes of more rational souls that happens to read it in the passing.

  • EricV Feb 02, 2013 

    @spiff

    1) its a missing feature that annoys statistically many linux users and you have a working solution…
    2) debian compile ffmpeg with other options than you do for licensing reasons, plus debian use libav…
    4) Indeed nvidia before 3.xx was returning xrandr results that XBMC misinterpreted. BVut using xbmc-xrand to get this kind information is in my view a ugly hack (fork exec multithread heavy appli even if linux COW technic save your ass instead of around 60 lines of C code…), using popen to and calling nvidia-settings utility for getting nvidia refresh rate is also rather ugly and introduced a lot of deadlocks. Nvidia does provide a library to get access to relevant video modes and this has been used by myth to correctly change the display to media resolution for years. All needed pointers are in the bug database. So saying it is a nvidia bug does no help anyone to get a solution (and I posted patches for integrating the needed library even before 11…).

  • EricV Feb 02, 2013 

    @C

    I do love XBMC and I do use it but I’m forced to build it myself using other code base than the official repository because it contains bugs (or missing feature if you want). I by no mean want to be hostile to devs and would even like to contribute more. Reporting bugs is the least I can do. Proposing fixes sometimes also. Now there are people much more skilled than me for graphic programming…

  • EricV Feb 02, 2013 

    @vicbitter

    @EricV, your statement “I just say its not the case and things did not evolve much between 11 and 12 on Linux” is incorrect. One of the greatest enhancements between 11 and 12 has been the inclusion of the AudioEngine! Being able to bitstream HD audio has taken XBMC to the next level for any serious HTPC owner.

    Right. Pulse audio right could still be enhanced (and has been removed as default just as a hint).

  • BillF Feb 02, 2013 

    @JackD

    Hi JackD,

    I mean no offence but I think you may be missing part of the point of free open source software. As users we have a responsibility to test the software and find bugs. Otherwise how else are they going to test it? They’re not adobe or Microsoft, they’re a team of volunteers. That said, I think the xbmc team do a pretty bloody good job at removing (from my experience) all “show stopper” bugs before release final versions. Most ericV’s issues as I understand aren’t bugs per se, that is the software is still useable, it just doesn’t have all the features in it. That’s fine, it’s open source which means if he’s been compiling his own versions he need only submit his code – much more practical than slamming the hard working folk on here.

    Onya xbmc Team!

  • RyanH Feb 02, 2013 

    This is just fantastic. Works perfectly fine on Win7, 64bit.

    The new audio engine is just great. I love it.

    Thank you, thank you, thank you.

  • picaresqu3 Feb 02, 2013 

    Congrats all!

    Thank you all for your hard word, the new version is incredible!

  • nedscott Feb 02, 2013 

    @JackD

    It is this reason that we didn’t include the AMD hardware decoding code. Doing so would be making users of the stable release our guinea pigs.

  • nedscott Feb 02, 2013 

    You can’t bitstream HD audio with an AMD GPU in Linux. Just sayin’…

  • NineT9 Feb 02, 2013 

    Found pretty big bug in XBMC, running latest build, please fix. Screenshot:
    http://pics.apartment808.com/users/NineT9mustang/XBMCBugReport331.jpg

  • biGdada Feb 02, 2013 

    @marek
    Gapless FLAC playback is borked on osx/ios.

  • OddE Feb 02, 2013 

    Hi.
    Tried to update my Ubuntu 11.04 to get Frodo running.
    Added ppa:team-xbmc/ppa to my sources list, ran apt-get update, and later apt-get install xbmc.
    But instead of getting Frodo, I was “stuck” with a version compiled 2012/03/23.

    Also tried to add the unstable ppa, but still no Frodo.

    Is the ppa’s up and running as they should be at the moment?

  • Juan Carlos Feb 02, 2013 

    Hello,
    XBMC Frodo ignores audio output. It does not change between the options in my computer. Always HDMI, although I select analogic. I didn’t have this problem on previous versions.

    Thanks.

  • clutch Feb 02, 2013 

    Filtering by FilterSMS does not work in library mode http://trac.xbmc.org/ticket/13915 . Too bad you broke this for us remote-users.

  • wow999 Feb 02, 2013 

    many thanks works flawless here win7 with amd 6450

  • Philip Stiff Feb 03, 2013 

    Frodo still has playback issues on the AppleTV2. All of the RC releases had this problem and the final version still has the problem. Every couple seconds the CPU usage spikes to 90% according to “top” on the ATV2 and that is when the stutters/judders occur.

    Reverting back to 11. It doesn’t seem to suffer from these issues.

  • Craig Staszkiewicz Feb 03, 2013 

    Great but one MAJOR problem!!!!! Like the release candidates, this version WILL NOT scan my music library. I’m not sure if this anything to do with my music been stored on an FTP server however movies stored on exactly the server scan fine.

  • Craig Staszkiewicz Feb 03, 2013 

    … and where has Pseudo TV gone??

  • Zeke Feb 03, 2013 

    @jokono
    Just set up a button on one of your control devices. On my universal remote, while on the XBMC input the red button goes to library Movies, the green button to library TV shows, the yellow button to video files and the blue button to music files. Much faster to navigate around this way.

  • Anonymous Feb 03, 2013 

    Many thanks! It worked.

  • kalnas Feb 03, 2013 

    @nedscott
    You are a genius! Display Out was the issue. Thank you very much!

  • DefCon One Feb 03, 2013 

    Great work guys on Frodo , on my windows puters frodo works fine , still wrong selection on sound will make pic stutter, mediaportal works fine also , Have also installed Frodo on my Denver android 4.0.4 pad with great result, , mediaportal pvr works , smb networking works only thing that buggers me is that i cant get the tuxbox Connection to my dreambox 500 (enigma1) to work. it gives the error… cant connect to server, though i can log in to the dreambox with the default android webreader.

  • nedscott Feb 03, 2013 

    @Craig Staszkiewicz
    A Frodo version is still in testing, it seems: http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid=90738

    @clutch
    It’s not forgotten, just still being worked out.

    @biGdada
    Known issue. Unfortunately, it will take a lot of work to fix this one. AudioEngine is basically having some growing pains on iOS and Mac OS X, but things should be better in the long run.

    @OddE
    It should be working, and I can see XBMC v12 in our repo. Post on the forums if it’s still giving you issues.

    @Philip Stiff
    Sounds like another audio settings related thing. Frodo isn’t very tolerant about the audio settings, and can cause stuff like this. Post to the iOS sub-forum and mention what options are enabled under Settings -> System -> Audio output.

  • nedscott Feb 03, 2013 

    @kalnas
    Thanks, but I’m just the messenger :)

    Seems a lot of people ran into this for Frodo.

  • OddE Feb 03, 2013 

    @nedscott
    After last nights frustration I gave up and went to bed.
    Tried some more today and today the wikipage “HOW-TO:Install XBMC for Linux” says :
    “From Ubuntu 11.10 (Oneiric Ocelot) to 12.10 (Quantal Quetzal), you can install from the team-xbmc PPA as follows or replace the ppa with the desired from above”

    I’m pretty sure that line said From Ubuntu 10.04 Lucid Lynx yesterday…

    The reason that I used that old distro was that I’m very fond of my old Xbox DVD remote kit, and as far as i know that was the last version to support that hw.

    But seems I to have to find me an alternative remote soon, so today I installed Ubuntu 12.04, and now it’s Frodo-time :-)

  • Bruno Rosa // TaRuGo Feb 03, 2013 

    Will Hardware decode for Galaxy S3 on the way? Love the XBMC, works well with HDMI (MHL), but drains many battery. (i Think the problem is from Galaxy, they don’t shut the screen…) Any way.

    Another thing, maybe the magictrackpad (apple’s) can work someday? :D

    For sure, the hardware decode is way more important.

    Thanks a lot!

  • Zeke Feb 03, 2013 

    Wow. Weren’t pages 3 and 4 of solid bitching a complete downer.

    Chaps, have you ever heard of TiVo? This is viewed as a premium paid box with a proprietary interface and you know what? It’s slow and has bugs that have been there since about a decade ago. Some of which will hang the box and require A SEVEN MINUTE REBOOT. On a product that can cost around $499 new.

    How about Windows 7? It’s a good OS, but I come across bugs and poor design in it at least a few times a week. It’s a paid for solution and it still has some of the same annoying problems it had when launching in late 2009.

    Yeah, XBMC has the odd bug. Some are quite annoying. But in my experience, because the thing is open source and you can start hacking around in the source code and/or the XML files for skins and control devices you can warp the thing to be whatever you want it to be. If something is missing, either find a workaround, code your own, or best of all do a feature request/bug report. Otherwise it’s not constructive and will annoy the devs, so you should politely and quietly STFU.

    In my end-user case, Frodo fixed a lot of bugs or problems that made Eden unusuable. Playback of 1080i material in TS files, the playlist order bug, severe UI slowdown after running for more than 48 hours etc etc. Most of the remaining problems are the result of deficiencies in Windows 7 and/or the graphics drivers. Big step up from the 2012-10-03 pre-alpha I’d been using. Jezz-X recently fine-tuned PM3.HD for Frodo and that’s working really well. Overall in my specific case, it’s a refinement of all the things that made XBMC great. I still love the fact that through EventGhost I can double tap the “video files” button on my remote and YouTube search pops up in a second or two. So much controllability if you choose to RTFM and poke around with what it can do.

    TL;DR
    ——-

    Remember, above all things, that at one time XBMC could play 720p content on an Xbox 1 with 64MB of RAM. And now with a bit more hardware power, it can do much much more. If that doesn’t speak to the abilities of the coders and you can’t see it, then tough. Don’t assume your end user case problems are everyone’s user case problems, because they’re not. No software/hardware solution is perfect, paid or not, so suck it up and count the blessings!

    So yeah, rant against the whiners over. I’ll go back to enjoying the many benefits of XBMC now, thanks. :D

  • jmarshall Feb 03, 2013 

    While I appreciate anyone that posts a comment, if you have an issue, here is not the place to put it. We cannot help you in the comments of a blogpost. Further, it doesn’t really help anyone else.

    Please, if you have an issue, go to the forums and post it there. People WILL help you – we have a fantastic community of users in addition to the team that really do go above and beyond to help others out. Take advantage of it, and XBMC will become better for it.

    @JackD: While I understand your frustration, you must also understand ours: There’s on the order of 100 people semi-actively involved in working on XBMC from a development side, which is a small number of team members, along with those devs and testers on the periphery. That’s 100 potentially different hardware combinations, user configurations etc. Compare that to the well over a million XBMC users world-wide. We cannot possibly get everything right – indeed, it is certain that we will miss things – quite likely many things.

    As an example, I’ve fixed at least 5 issues in this release cycle that were present in Eden, and at least 1 issue that was present from Babylon onwards (could have been in Atlantis, I didn’t bother going back further). Yes, that’s right – bugs that have been in “stable” code that well over a million people have been using for a year or longer, yet we’re only being made aware of it now.

    Without people like you testing the release candidates and taking the time to put together the things that work and the things that don’t, we will miss things that you find critical issues. Before you give up on the process, take the 10-30 minutes out of your day to provide cogent bug reports and follow them up as we investigate them. Only by doing so do you ensure your issues have priority.

  • fschinagl Feb 03, 2013 

    Many thanks for this great software. Don’t understand why though audio had to be changed from Frodo RC3 to final for OS X. I’m having nothing but issues with sound since I upgrading to final. Thanks anyway.

  • Brian Feb 04, 2013 

    Frodo is fantastic. I find myself looking for reasons to put a tv some where now.

  • Sahmen Feb 04, 2013 

    S JMarshall: When will the hub wizard be deemed ready to configure Frodo in the same way as it was configuring Eden? Mind you, I have asked this question on the forums, but so far I have got no definitive answer. I am asking you in case you have one. I have 4 jailbroken ATV 2s currently sitting there and waiting to be configured. Nito installer now only installs Frodo, but it seems the hub wizard can only configure Eden so far. I do not want to go back to Eden if Frodo is the future. On the other hand, I would like the configuration of the wizard on my Frodo, so I need this answer. I hope you understand.

  • ozon Feb 04, 2013 

    RTMP protocol in xbmc12-frodo not open in my Ubuntu 10.04.4 …. i back on alexandr-surkov-xbmc-pvr… all rtmp stream open, navi-x (rtmp) ok in frodo not open

    - this is not fixed… i test – Compiling with all changes
    Ticket #13864 (closed Bugs: Fixed)
    http://trac.xbmc.org/ticket/13864

    in ver. eden have line:

    in frodo have this line:

    —— not open rtmp/e/…..

  • Anonymous Feb 04, 2013 

    @nedscott Thanks, I finally found a way out, thank XBMC team, Frodo is working on my system now.

  • soliter26 Feb 04, 2013 

    Sorry to say, but:
    1. NPVR addon does not work properly. After installation of NPVR and NPVR 2.5.9 Patches R2 – http://forums.gbpvr.com/showthread.php?52417-NPVR-2-5-9-Current-Patches-and-Getting-Started-info, the NPVR works more or less OK. But on XBMC the channel switch takes very long time. Sometimes it does not work at all. On some channels I switch on I get different channel than I choose – e.g I choose NOVA HD, but I get ČT SPORT. The channel switching works OK on NPVR.
    2. Addon for DVB viewer still does not have time shift.
    3. For me there is not so big difference between Frodo and Eden.
    Nevertheless Frodo is very nice of Piece of software, I think the final version has been released too soon.

  • nedscott Feb 04, 2013 

    @Sahmen
    We have nothing to do with the hub wizard. We do not make it, maintain it, or support it.

  • Tim. Feb 04, 2013 

    I have been using XBMC from the XBMP days. I have used XBMC daily as my sole source of content for all my TV’s since 2005 and now run it on a Windows 7 32-bit machine dedicated for it. I love XBMC, and have nothing but great things to say about the developers and community. Thank you for all that you do! Congratulations on an amazing release with AudioEngine and PVR!

  • misu Feb 04, 2013 

    for windows,how come icefilms is not included?

    thanks,

  • natethomas Feb 05, 2013 

    misu :

    for windows,how come icefilms is not included?

    thanks,

    Because icefilms is purely pirate software, and XBMC does not support pirate addons.

  • Paul Colby Feb 05, 2013 

    Absolutely loving the Live TV!!! :) I definitely want a “Movie” center first, with Live TV a bonus, but so far, Live TV is working really, really well for me!! Thank you guys, you all rock! :)

  • Wakido Feb 05, 2013 

    Well done Team XBMC.
    Thank you for your hard work

  • Thierry Feb 05, 2013 

    I recently discovered xmbc and I’m really impressed by the work done !
    Thank you for this great piece of software :)

  • Morgan Feb 05, 2013 

    having been a user since the old modded xbox days I have to say after installing latest Frodo XBMCbuntu I’m blown away by what a sophisticated mature software xbmc has evolved into! I applaud the whole team, simply superb! ^_^

  • Roy Kimbrell Feb 07, 2013 

    Just installed XBMC 12.0-RC3 on my AppleTV(1). Wow! Outstanding! Great job, people!

  • louis bouchard Feb 07, 2013 

    from the press relase it is not clear that the IOS and ATV2 are not yet available.
    it looks like only HD audio is not yet avalaible for these two platforms

  • DDDamian Feb 07, 2013 

    Hey all. I see lot’s of kudos for AudioEngine (and lots of issues too). Given the usual ratio of “cool it works” to “it’s borked” that tends to come out on a release, it looks like for the most part of a million users it works :)

    Keep in mind it was written almost entirely by one guy, with several others contributing on different platforms. The amount of work was substantial. It too will grow as XBMC does: with hard work, testing, bug-reports and coding. There is no way to release something to the wild and get 100% success on the first go – especially as we have only the hardware *we* buy personally, and the platforms we code on – not to mention the limited time of real life.

    For those whom it’s working well for, enjoy!
    DDDamian

  • Ebinum Feb 08, 2013 

    I recently found xmbc and I’m really impressed, thinking about getting a Raspberry PI. much cheaper than building a media centre and does the same job.

  • Trollslayer Feb 09, 2013 

    I am staying with Eden on Windows 7 for now, still a way to go on Frodo BUT as has been said before, the project is driven and maintained by volunteers – well done everyone!
    XBMC still beats everything else for me.

  • S Chr Feb 10, 2013 

    XBMC Frodo + PVR + MediaPortal Backend + MySQL = All Other Media Systems Redundant.

    It ain’t bug-free, but man, this is a good release. PVR in particular is mind-blowing to the members of my household. Especially since an MPEG-Licenced Raspberry Pi turned out to be an adequate client!

    I think it’s donation time. Again. Maybe to MediaPortal as well…

  • krokodil Feb 11, 2013 

    Trying to find something working with Windows and Linux so I can move my wife away from Windows :-) .

    First shot: d’l and install as non privileged user; gets admin rights and installs. Trying to start: no start menu entry. Logout and logon as admin.
    Now the start menu entry is there. Starting and entering weather: it seems to see that I’m in Germany and gets data from a site 20 km away,
    that’s ok. But it shows temp in F and date in US format. No way to change that. OK, I’ve got both US-English and German installed with German
    being the system default.
    Uninstall and reinstall with only German enabled (can’t disable the default English entry). Same procedure as above.

    The thing that hiccups me badly is the fact that I need admin privs to run a media center app.

    And, last but not least: I’m not complaining – just reporting so that things can be straightened in a future release.

    Windows systems: windows 7 Ultimate / Professional 64 bit

  • krokodil Feb 11, 2013 

    @krokodil
    Ok, found the language settings, seems to be ok.

    So what remains are the admin privs needed to run xbmc. Maybe I have more restrictive UAC settings than necessary but then I’m working in the security business …

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