USB TV-Turner adapters to Xbox/XBMC?

[syntaxx_error]

hi,

xbox would be perfect if we could have a video recording feature ! i already use linux on my xbox and i've got usb cables switched on my xbox game ports....so with linux i can use usb hardware on my xbox...

but using an os is very boaring and not "user friendly" on tv...

so what about a soft which could work via a chip as xbmc and which would be able to record video via an usb tv tuner switched on the xbox's game ports ?

just imagine your xbox transformed into a video recorder !!!

i hope it would give you some ideas for the futur !!!

[Frodo]

i would love it 2, but i lack the skills to write lowlevel usb sourcecode to control the usb bus
so if someone wants to help?

frodo

[Zealot]

would this even be possible?

i thought that the xbox only supported usb1.. wouldn't that have too slow a transfer rate for usb wintv support?

[joe_user]

imho we should stick to feature which are available without additional hardware (except modchip). and for the cool stuff, time shift recording, you would need more cpu power anyway.

it would be a nice feature, but more for xbmc on xbox 2

just my 2 cents

[syntaxx_error]

Originally Posted by (joe_user @ oct. 05 2003,11:51)

imho we should stick to feature which are available without additional hardware (except modchip). and for the cool stuff, time shift recording, you would need more cpu power anyway.

it would be a nice feature, but more for xbmc on xbox 2

just my 2 cents

yes the xbox 2 should have more power, but if in a first step we could have an usb support in xmc for an external usb tv tuner it should be grate !

usb tv tuner already exist in 1.1 usb, so i imagine that it provides enought performances to record video....so it should work on xbox.... ...just have to buy an usb adapter and voila ! :



i've already plug my usb logitech keyboard + my usb mouse (ms optical mouse) with this adapter under gentoox (linux for xbox) without any problem !



http://www.hauppauge.com/html/wintvp..._datasheet.htm

mpeg capture specifications :

mpeg2 capture rates: 2mbit/sec, 4mbit/sec, 6mbit/sec, 8mbit/sec and 12mbit/sec at full d1, plus s-vcd (standard play, long play, extra long play). note: 8mbit/sec and 12mbit/sec are available using usb 2.0 only.
mpeg1 capture at 1150 kbits/sec (video cd data rate)
audio sampling: 44.1 khz
chroma sampling: yuv 4:2:0
video file format: .mpg
mpeg file tested compatible with: mediastudio 6.0, ulead dvd moviefactory 2.0

system requirements :

processor requirements: pentium® ii processor 733mhz or faster for tv watching, recording and pause
windows®xp, 98se (second edition), windows® millennium edition, windows2000
usb 2.0 port (or usb hub). usb 1.1 port will limit record to 6mbits/sec.
sound card
dvd or cd writer for burning dvd's or cd's (optional)
vga card (pci or agp) which supports video overlay (nvidia, s3, ati, etc


spec of the win tv usb are exactly what can support an xbox !

xmc team needs help to developp usb support for xmc !

without video recording, xmc is not a real media center like windows media center !

[Frodo]

nice, but there's one problem and thats we dont know the protocol used to communicate with the wintv usb box.


frodo

[syntaxx_error]

Originally Posted by (frodo @ oct. 10 2003,13:23)

nice, but there's one problem and thats we dont know the protocol used to communicate with the wintv usb box.


frodo

hi ! *

maybe there's someone on the xbox scene who will be able to help you ? on sourceforge.net for exemple ?

an what about talking with the creator of gentoox (linux xbox) ? gentoox uses xbox's usb ports....maybe he could help you to understand how to use usb features on xbox....

[Gamester17]

Originally Posted by (syntaxx_error @ oct. 10 2003,13:34)

an what about talking with the creator of gentoox (linux xbox) ? gentoox uses xbox's usb ports....maybe he could help you to understand how to use usb features on xbox....

you cannot compare linux running on a xbox with a native xbox software like xbmc, linux is a complete operating system

[syntaxx_error]

Originally Posted by (gamester17 @ oct. 10 2003,13:49)

you cannot compare linux running on a xbox with a native xbox software like xbmc, linux is a complete operating system

ok....i'm just trying to understand how it could work... ...i'm not an expert...:/

that has no real link with the subject but i know that the xbox game phantasy star online use an official ms usb keyboard....perhaps if you have a look to the files of this game you could find a little piece of information....

[san9jay]

i think the point frodo is making is that they do not know the protocol used to talk to the wintv box.

getting the usb port working is one hurdle, which is probably surmountable with some hard work since that is a standard. getting the protocol details of the wintv pvr box is not likely to be easy since that is proprietary and it is unlikely that the protocol details would be published by hauppauge so someone would have to try to reverse engineer the details.