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pooh
2009-08-15, 10:19
Hi Ronie and all,

Again, absolutely beautiful and practical skin! So here's another food for thought:

In Boxee, there is this magnificent subtitle feature when playing movies. I understand it's embedded in the skin they use.

When playing a movie, push the 'subtitle' button, and a list of subtitles in different languages is being presented. Select one of them and automagically the subtitle is added to the running movie.

I think this a kick-ass feature that would make the usages of xbmc/Transparency even more comfortable and luxurious.

Anyway, my 2 cents.

Thanks for considering!

Pooh

ronie
2009-08-15, 13:38
Hi Ronie and all,

Again, absolutely beautiful and practical skin! So here's another food for thought:

In Boxee, there is this magnificent subtitle feature when playing movies. I understand it's embedded in the skin they use.

When playing a movie, push the 'subtitle' button, and a list of subtitles in different languages is being presented. Select one of them and automagically the subtitle is added to the running movie.

I think this a kick-ass feature that would make the usages of xbmc/Transparency even more comfortable and luxurious.

Anyway, my 2 cents.

Thanks for considering!

Pooh

check this: http://xbmc.org/forum/showthread.php?t=56083

for now, you'll have to use the VideoOSD.xml provided with the script.
the next release of Transparency will have the 'Get Subtitles' button already in the OSD and also support other Subtitle scripts (if available).

pooh
2009-08-15, 20:29
Thanks Ronie. OSD works and opensubtitle.org windows opens and I can browse subtitles. Upon selecting one, it is being downloaded (at least it shows on the screen), but no subtitle is shown. The Audio section of the OSD shows the correct subtitle (the name and 1 out of 1), but upon browsing, the subtitle is not there. (same location as the movie)

I'm using a samba share to store my video's and xbmc has admin rights.

Any clues please?

Cheers!

Pooh

ronie
2009-08-15, 21:40
Thanks Ronie. OSD works and opensubtitle.org windows opens and I can browse subtitles. Upon selecting one, it is being downloaded (at least it shows on the screen), but no subtitle is shown. The Audio section of the OSD shows the correct subtitle (the name and 1 out of 1), but upon browsing, the subtitle is not there. (same location as the movie)

please ask for help in the opensubtitle.org thread.

cheers. :-)

ronie
2009-08-16, 23:51
just finished adding support for the Subtitles script.
i gave it a custom look to match the rest of the skin:

http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv237/roniez/workz/opensub.jpg

tikkiew
2009-08-17, 01:31
looks :cool: .Great job again



the next release of Transparency will have the 'Get Subtitles' button already in the OSD and also support other Subtitle scripts (if available).

This is also something I wanted. Thanks,

pooh
2009-08-17, 08:02
Many thanks Ronie, many thanks!

Can't wait to try the next release :-)

Cheers,
Pooh

jpf55
2009-08-17, 17:54
Looks great, I like the new OSD

topkat
2009-08-18, 00:20
So, you changed the menu-like osd to icons in the info-pane? Really nice, the menu looked ok, but in the middle of the screen it was a quite disturbing.

But how does it work now? Currently, with 'm' you get the menu, with 'i' the info-pane shows up. Where's the 'info'-icon now that shows up the plot? Will media-flaqs still show up? There seems to be enough space on the left of the transport-controls. And what about chapter-numbers, i can't seen them in the screenshot.

Keep up the good work, I think transparency has really the potential to become the next default-skin!

ronie
2009-08-18, 01:00
But how does it work now? Currently, with 'm' you get the menu, with 'i' the info-pane shows up. Where's the 'info'-icon now that shows up the plot?

the info pane is still unchanged. so 'i' will still bring it up.
'm' will bring up the new menu, which will look quite similar to the info plane.

Will media-flaqs still show up? There seems to be enough space on the left of the transport-controls. And what about chapter-numbers, i can't seen them in the screenshot.

all that will still be in the info pane.
maybe i'll add it to the menu too and make info and menu exactly the same.

topkat
2009-08-18, 01:23
Ok, thanks for the answer.

Don't you think a single osd with all infos and options in one place would be more usefull? This way you only need one 'osd-button' to bring up all the options you need in fullscreen. Since you stated the info pane and the new menu-pane are quite the same anyway, I vote for a merge. I think two similar looking panes with different functions will confuse the user.

theotocopulitos
2009-08-18, 13:30
Hello, any hint when the new version will be up...? Just can't wait!

dynamix
2009-08-18, 14:59
Lovely work on the subtitle integration!

I do agree with topkat on merging the osd's.

ronie
2009-08-18, 15:14
i'll see what i can do.
it's not as straight forward as it may seem to be.

the info pane has several different layouts, it will show different info based on the content you're playing.
most noticeably, if you playing episodes, it will show ClearArt (if enabled),
for dvd's it will display chapter info.
the ones for musicvideos and live-tv are also slightly different from the other ones.

so a lot more work has to be done on the osd menu i you want to get the same functionality in there...provided there's enough space left to add all the info.

topkat
2009-08-18, 17:19
Well, no hurry, but this would be a really advance over other skins.

Uhm, we're getting a bit offtopic, but to be honest, my main concern about xbmc is that the gui still feels a bit 'console-like'. Back when we had xbmc running on the xbox, the main input device was the controller. Since it has a lot of buttons, it made sense to dedicate buttons to a single function.

Now that xbmc shifts to dedicated htpc-hardware, I think a remote control with usally only one 'menu/osd'-button will be the main 'controller'. Just like standalone devices, you usally have only one key on the remote to brings up a menu/osd with all options in one place. I think xbmc should behave the same.

But, do what you feel to do, I'm happy with it.

pooh
2009-08-22, 10:32
Looking at the 'slowness' of opensubtitles.org, I saw this same topic over at boxee and one can choose between 2 different subtitel sites.

Would this be an option for this effort in Transparency!

No offense to anyone and apprecitae all the hard work and efforts. Just adding another twist into the equation ;-)

Anyway, another bite of food for thought.

ronie
2009-08-22, 13:49
Looking at the 'slowness' of opensubtitles.org, I saw this same topic over at boxee and one can choose between 2 different subtitel sites.

Would this be an option for this effort in Transparency!

No offense to anyone and apprecitae all the hard work and efforts. Just adding another twist into the equation ;-)

Anyway, another bite of food for thought.

which subtitle sites are available is entirely up to the guy(s) who made the plugin.
they recently added Sublight as an option, so i guess your request is already taken care of. ;-)

pooh
2009-08-22, 14:18
which subtitle sites are available is entirely up to the guy(s) who made the plugin.
they recently added Sublight as an option, so i guess your request is already taken care of. ;-)

So it seems :-)

I guess by now, many of us are eager to see the beast. Hope you don't want to be 'perfect' before releasing it. Although very much appreciative we will be for that effort, I see many opportunities to all of us assisting you in that, and no one will hate you for doing that ;-)

Cheers!