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burritoboy9984
2009-05-25, 08:19
Can xbmc play blu ray movies? Actual discs, not rips... I looked around and couldn't find a solid answer...
Thanks in advance!
-Erik
Nope, not when they are encrypted. Last I checked only Slysoft had the decryption code for all of the various disks and that's winders only.
Real ugly but it can work.
I have a windows box on my lan with a bluray drive running slysoft. Share the drive via windows and then navigate to the share using your xbmc/linux box. Last time I played with this xbmc could not read the structure as such but i could playindividual files from the disc.
But cluncky, so I jujst rip the disc to mkv and play from hdd.
snappz
I can acknowledge, that m2ts is played fine.
I had only a problem with on m2ts which I had to recode and deletd 720p-stream.
It would be nice, if XBMC could read the structure of a BD or even plays Playlists of a BD.
I think this should also be no problem regarding legality.
One could generate an ISO-file of a BD (in whateve way - anydvd?) and play this like a DVD-ISO.
Perhaps with menus?
Tariella
2009-05-25, 11:25
You can decrypt a disc using aacskeys and dumphd (search doom9 forums for it). Using this programs you can rip a bluray to disc or stream it to your favourite player (needs fast cpu).
There is no software yet that can display menu structures of bluray discs on linux, afaik.
josephdyland
2009-05-25, 18:59
I just had a thought on a work around to get blu ray to play on xbmc-linux.
If I created a XP VM with virtual box or something on my HTPC.
Then had a bluray drive that the XP VM saw and then have slysoft anydvdHD on that XP VM and shared the drive back to xbmc.
would this possibly give me some bluray playback?
Tariella
2009-05-26, 11:27
If you don't have very powerful hardware then this might cost too much performance.
It would require to rip the movie in your XP VM and then save it back to your xbmc environment. Then quit the vm and try to play it.
Just sharing your drive back probably won't work, even if your machine is powerful enough.
You might want to try this (http://www.makemkv.com/forum2/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=224)
Darkstar2000
2009-09-07, 23:40
I just had a thought on a work around to get blu ray to play on xbmc-linux.
If I created a XP VM with virtual box or something on my HTPC.
Then had a bluray drive that the XP VM saw and then have slysoft anydvdHD on that XP VM and shared the drive back to xbmc.
would this possibly give me some bluray playback?
This is perfectly possible! I use a headless VirtualBox with AnyDVD and a shared drive to play the video with mplayer or so. And I would not call my HTPC "very powerfull hardware": ASUS P5N7A-VM, E5200, 1GB Ram. Even "Watchmen" with its very high bandwidth plays quite smooth with vdpau.
But is there a way to see the full menu of the disk with xbmc? It is no problem to find the main movie simply by its size, but what about all the other (sometimes 20+) m2ts video files?
hikaricore
2009-09-08, 00:12
Until the bluray spec is opened for people to use freely and encryption is removed or properly cracked don't expect it to work on anything but an official player.
This is also why you should boycott bluray..
Honestly it's not too bad ripping and recoding them. Takes a few hours to recode but the resulting size can be as small as a third the original size and still have awesome quality. AnyDVD, eac3to, and meGUI using x.264 does it for me.
JackieBrown
2009-09-09, 05:57
Takes a few hours to recode but the resulting size can be as small as a third the original size and still have awesome quality. AnyDVD, eac3to, and meGUI using x.264 does it for me.
Are you exaggerating or are those programs that much faster than handbrake?
MakeMKV (http://www.makemkv.com) is able to read Blu Ray Media under linux, extract the movie with the audio track/s you select to a MKV file complete with chapters/subtitles. No recompression is involved and I'm not sure whether it works with the same amount of titles as Anydvd but right now its free, runs under linux and XBMC will play the resultant file. I've tried it on some of my Blu ray discs without issue.
Correct me if i am wrong, but isn't it kind of useless to be avaible to play m2ts files if XBMC can't read the menus? How are you supposed to play a ripped blu ray?
Matt Devo
2009-09-09, 17:24
Correct me if i am wrong, but isn't it kind of useless to be avaible to play m2ts files if XBMC can't read the menus? How are you supposed to play a ripped blu ray?
you're wrong =P
bluray discs aren't the only source of m2ts files. Plus, there are tools which will read a bluray disc and combine all files in a title into a single m2ts file, which can then be played back by XBMC
magnetism
2009-09-09, 18:09
you're wrong =P
bluray discs aren't the only source of m2ts files. Plus, there are tools which will read a bluray disc and combine all files in a title into a single m2ts file, which can then be played back by XBMC
Besides, most blu rays have one really big M2TS file that contains the main movie, which you can play as is in XBMC. You're just missing out on all the additional stuff in the blu ray (if you can call it that).
Matt Devo
2009-09-09, 21:27
Besides, most blu rays have one really big M2TS file that contains the main movie
this has not been my experience. I'd say this is true maybe 50% of the time.
magnetism
2009-09-09, 22:31
this has not been my experience. I'd say this is true maybe 50% of the time.
Ok, I guess I'm just lucky in my choices then... I've come across exactly on BR that didn't have the single big file.
This might be a bit OT, since it's about HDDVD, but if XBMC "supports" blu ray, it should support HDDVD too.
I have a ripped HDDVD that i would like to play. It's Digital Video Essentials which you use to calibrate you home theater. It contains two folders ADV_OBJ and HVDVD_TS. The ts folder contains a shitload of EVO and MAP files, the other folder just contains menus.
Is their any way to play this at all? Or is it just useless because you don't have any menus?
TeknoJnky
2009-09-09, 23:30
This might be a bit OT, since it's about HDDVD, but if XBMC "supports" blu ray, it should support HDDVD too.
Well this is your first wrong assumption.
Well mplayer can play HDDVD files so why can't XBMC?
Take a look at this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/BluRayAndHDDVD
TeknoJnky
2009-09-10, 00:10
Well, in this very thread it says that bluray disks are not supported by xbmc, so why you would assume that hd-dvd is supported I don't know.
Xbmc can play the M2TS files from a blueray, but the hd-dvd files are not m2ts, they are a different format.
Using google, you should be able to learn more about evo files and converting hd-dvd to m2ts or mkvd, which xbmc can then play, altho with no menus.
Well mplayer can play HDDVD files so why can't XBMC?
Take a look at this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/BluRayAndHDDVD
Because XBMC is not MPlayer. My truck can haul two tons, why can't my Kia do it to, they both have four wheels?
MakeMKV detects what comprises the main movie and extracts it into one container file (it has done this accurately for me so far). I know its not perfect and it takes up quite a bit of space to do this, but it's a way of playing Blu-Ray content in XBMC for now. To be honest I'd rather be rid of the menus and jump straight to the film, which this method does anyway. Some of my movies, less the the menus, additional soundtracks, special features etc are about 15gb, considering that is 1080p I find that quite acceptable and manageable, for now at least :)
Correct me if i am wrong, but isn't it kind of useless to be avaible to play m2ts files if XBMC can't read the menus? How are you supposed to play a ripped blu ray?
So i'm guessing there will never be HDDVD support in XBMC now, becasue the format is dead?
Actually i was asuming that XBMC will have blu ray support in the future, and naturally thought that HDDVD was being worked on too.
What i didn't think of was that the format was dead.
MakeMKV detects what comprises the main movie and extracts it into one container file (it has done this accurately for me so far). I know its not perfect and it takes up quite a bit of space to do this, but it's a way of playing Blu-Ray content in XBMC for now. To be honest I'd rather be rid of the menus and jump straight to the film, which this method does anyway. Some of my movies, less the the menus, additional soundtracks, special features etc are about 15gb, considering that is 1080p I find that quite acceptable and manageable, for now at least :)
MakeMkv does not support extracting the HD audio which makes this useless for backups in my opinion. If they can fix that, they have a product.
spandolf
2009-11-14, 02:13
I use xbmc on windows and with any dvd hd installed and open, xbmc can play bluray disk from bluray dvd reader!!!
Bye
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