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soder
2008-12-10, 23:34
https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/catalyst_812_linux.pdf

Will it work with XBMC in Ubuntu 8.10?
Can I update automatic like with the 8.552, or do I have to try a manual installation. (Rather not)

Will this solve any problems?

/Söder

azido
2008-12-11, 02:14
https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/catalyst_812_linux.pdf

Will it work with XBMC in Ubuntu 8.10?
Can I update automatic like with the 8.552, or do I have to try a manual installation. (Rather not)

Will this solve any problems?

/Söder

i don't really think you will get ati catalyst support in here.

althekiller
2008-12-11, 03:11
Try it and see. But as azido said, we can't support ATI's drivers.

BLKMGK
2008-12-11, 05:14
ENVY might be helpful...

soder
2008-12-11, 08:48
ENVY might be helpful...

ENVY has fucked up things for me before...

/Söder

soder
2008-12-11, 08:50
Try it and see. But as azido said, we can't support ATI's drivers.

I dont mean that you should support the drivers, but there was a problem with the 8.10 driver and a green screen, and that was solved with tha 8.552 driver.

Now I wonder if any of that ATI says is fixed, will help ATI users with high cpu in idle, and stuff like that?

/Söder

althekiller
2008-12-11, 19:03
Just try it. You can always revert back to what you have now. According to the release note it should be more stable anyway, not that I have ANY faith in ATI.

soder
2008-12-11, 19:28
Just try it. You can always revert back to what you have now. According to the release note it should be more stable anyway, not that I have ANY faith in ATI.

I dont think Im the one who should go first. I have little knowledge in linux, and last time I was very fast, it didnt went so good.

/Söder

indy5
2008-12-11, 19:59
I'll give it a try this afternoon. I am running hardy though, but I had the same problems with the catalyst 8.10 and 8.11 drivers (in hardy and intrepid).

indy5
2008-12-12, 08:46
Ok, I'm running Hardy 8.04 and XBMC build 16477.

Just installed catalyst 8.12 and it seems to be working "okay." I do not have the issue of garbled graphics in full screen mode, that issue seems to have been addressed. I am having some issues with tearing. After messing around with the Catalyst settings and XBMC settings, it seems ok, but not perfect. I have Vsync set to "let driver choose" in xbmc and set to "disable by default and let app use when needed, or whatever it is, in CCC. If I set it to any other combination, the tearing is pretty bad.

I will do some more testing...

soder
2008-12-12, 12:44
Ok, I'm running Hardy 8.04 and XBMC build 16477.

Just installed catalyst 8.12 and it seems to be working "okay." I do not have the issue of garbled graphics in full screen mode, that issue seems to have been addressed. I am having some issues with tearing. After messing around with the Catalyst settings and XBMC settings, it seems ok, but not perfect. I have Vsync set to "let driver choose" in xbmc and set to "disable by default and let app use when needed, or whatever it is, in CCC. If I set it to any other combination, the tearing is pretty bad.

I will do some more testing...

To fix the tearings, go to the ATI control panel and set vsync to quality I think..That will fix the tearing.

/Söder

tails_naf@yahoo
2008-12-12, 14:25
On the issue of tearing - I thought the way to fix this was to set the performance/quality slider all the way to quality in the catalyst control center.

That seemed to fix any issue for me immediately (note this was was for an older very of the catalyst driver - have not tried the new one).

I didn't change any xbmc settings at all for this.

There's no way I'm going to ubuntu 8.10 any time soon - it seems ATI and 8.10 just does not play well at the moment. 8.04, and the older catalyst works fine, and I love my XBMC too much to risk breaking it ;)

soder
2008-12-12, 15:08
On the issue of tearing - I thought the way to fix this was to set the performance/quality slider all the way to quality in the catalyst control center.

That seemed to fix any issue for me immediately (note this was was for an older very of the catalyst driver - have not tried the new one).

I didn't change any xbmc settings at all for this.

There's no way I'm going to ubuntu 8.10 any time soon - it seems ATI and 8.10 just does not play well at the moment. 8.04, and the older catalyst works fine, and I love my XBMC too much to risk breaking it ;)

Stay at 8.04 . =)

I guess all the new drivers workes for both 8.04 and 8.10.

And, you are right at the slider thing...

/Söder

soder
2008-12-12, 15:53
I just installed the catalyst 8.12 drivers, the automatic way, and that went OK. Much easier then the manual way Ive tried before. Got the new CCC in applications, but the old one is also there?

But now to the problem. Now watching a movie, .mkv or .xvid, the video is very slow. Like a constant lag.

/Söder

Aenima99x
2008-12-12, 17:08
There's no way I'm going to ubuntu 8.10 any time soon - it seems ATI and 8.10 just does not play well at the moment. 8.04, and the older catalyst works fine, and I love my XBMC too much to risk breaking it ;)

My Radeon HD 3450 works perfect with 8.10....well almost perfect, I have some underscan that I can't seem to get rid of.

soder
2008-12-12, 17:27
My Radeon HD 3450 works perfect with 8.10....well almost perfect, I have some underscan that I can't seem to get rid of.

Type "aticonfig --set-pcs-val=MCIL,DigitalHDTVDefaultUnderscan,0" in a terminal at the htpc your using.
That will solve your underscan.

/Söder

Aenima99x
2008-12-12, 19:07
Type "aticonfig --set-pcs-val=MCIL,DigitalHDTVDefaultUnderscan,0" in a terminal at the htpc your using.
That will solve your underscan.

/Söder
Tried it, doesn't work.
Actually tried several things....some have no effect and one of them resulted in a beautiful all-black screen upon reboot. :oo:

soder
2008-12-12, 19:39
Tried it, doesn't work.
Actually tried several things....some have no effect and one of them resulted in a beautiful all-black screen upon reboot. :oo:

I also have the black screen sometimes, but thats because my plasme dont work with all resolutions.

Im pretty sure that the line I wrote is the thing for you.

What drivers do you use?

Have you checked your /etc/ati/amdpcdb for the line?

EDIT. I have not totaly reinstalled with the new 8.12 drivers, and now after first deleted the old one, I got my underscan back, and cant get rid of it.

If ypu type
"aticonfig --query-monitor"
"aticonfig --query-dispattrib=monitorname"
where monitorname in the answer from the first line, what do you then have in X and Y? I guess its smaller then MAX?

This problem was before solved for me with "aticonfig --set-pcs-val=MCIL,DigitalHDTVDefaultUnderscan,0" , but something is wrong for me now to...


/Söder

soder
2008-12-12, 19:43
I just installed the catalyst 8.12 drivers, the automatic way, and that went OK. Much easier then the manual way Ive tried before. Got the new CCC in applications, but the old one is also there?

But now to the problem. Now watching a movie, .mkv or .xvid, the video is very slow. Like a constant lag.

/Söder

I now uninstalled the drivers again, and have installed manualy from the guide.
http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Intrepid_Installation_Guide

What does this mean?
"Please note: Depending on the particular ATI card that you own, you may or may not automatically have all of the relevant driver features enabled. R500 and R600 cards (X1xxx, HD series, and newer) in particular will need TexturedVideo enabled in Xorg.conf (rather than the traditional VideoOverlay) in order to support Xv accelerated video playback. "

Is this something I shall try with xbmc?

/Söder

Aenima99x
2008-12-12, 20:10
I also have the black screen sometimes, but thats because my plasme dont work with all resolutions.

Im pretty sure that the line I wrote is the thing for you.

What drivers do you use?

Driver is 8.54.3


Have you checked your /etc/ati/amdpcdb for the line?

Here's the relevant lines from the file
TVEnableOverscan=V1
DigitalHDTVDefaultUnderscan=V0
Width=V1280
Height=V768
Refresh=V60


what do you then have in X and Y? I guess its smaller then MAX?

Nope, values are at max.
sizeX = default:1776, value:1776, max:1776
sizeY = default:1000, value:1000, max:1000

soder
2008-12-12, 20:52
Driver is 8.54.3


Here's the relevant lines from the file
TVEnableOverscan=V1
DigitalHDTVDefaultUnderscan=V0
Width=V1280
Height=V768
Refresh=V60


Nope, values are at max.
sizeX = default:1776, value:1776, max:1776
sizeY = default:1000, value:1000, max:1000

Hmm ok, then I dont know. I self try to get back my 8.552 again, and now I have the shitty underscan my self.. =(

/Söder

olympia
2008-12-14, 22:17
Did anyone of you solved the issue finally?

I have exactly the same problem:

- Black border by default.
- "aticonfig --set-pcs-val=MCIL,DigitalHDTVDefaultUnderscan,0" didn't helped
- after setting PosX, PosY, SizeX and SizeY manually than X boots into black screen

soder
2008-12-14, 22:41
Did anyone of you solved the issue finally?

I have exactly the same problem:

- Black border by default.
- "aticonfig --set-pcs-val=MCIL,DigitalHDTVDefaultUnderscan,0" didn't helped
- after setting PosX, PosY, SizeX and SizeY manually than X boots into black screen

I had the problem before. I solved it with "aticonfig --set-pcs-val=MCIL,DigitalHDTVDefaultUnderscan,0"

It also worked with setting it manual with

aticonfig --set-dispattrib=tmds2i,positionX:0
aticonfig --set-dispattrib=tmds2i,positionY:0
aticonfig --set-dispattrib=tmds2i,sizeX:1280
aticonfig --set-dispattrib=tmds2i,sizeY:720

but just like you said, it was reseted at every reboot.

But then, it worked with "aticonfig --set-pcs-val=MCIL,DigitalHDTVDefaultUnderscan,0"

Then now, a couple of days ago I installed the new Catalys 8.12, and it went OK. Like before, I had no underscan, because I had the rigth setting in my amdpcsdb.

Then I noticed that the video in XBMC was fucked up with the new catalyst 8.12, so I tried to reinstall, but it didnt make it.

So I uninstalled it, and reinstalled the 8.552 from the update manager.

In some way it got fucked up, and I got my underscan back.
I think I in some way lost my good settings in amdpcsdb.
Then when I tried that line again, it didnt work.

Then I tried the manual settings again, and the was reseted at reboot.

Finaly, I think it has to do with the xorg.conf and the amdpcsdb, and that they have to be correct after a new install. Sometimes they get fucked, and then ypu maybe have to reset them and do some aticonfig and so..

To sum up, the lines you need, are the one I wrote here. Use them both and make sure your drivers really use the xorg and the amdpscdb.

Night.

/Söder

olympia
2008-12-15, 16:50
Söder, I read your whole story before, and I am in the same situation, that's why I asked.

So all-in-all the only solution is to revert back to an older driver?
And is mean that ati screwed up something in the most current catalyst?

soder
2008-12-15, 17:50
Söder, I read your whole story before, and I am in the same situation, that's why I asked.

So all-in-all the only solution is to revert back to an older driver?
And is mean that ati screwed up something in the most current catalyst?

I dont think that the newest driver 8.12 did the underscan for me. My underscan came back when I downgraded and was messing around.

But for me the 8.12 didnt work with my XBMC and the settings I had in xorg and so.

But the installer worked, both automatic and manual.

/Söder

d00chris
2008-12-15, 21:10
Quick question : Is the CPU load still 100% with these new drivers? I have the 8.9 drivers myself and everything is working great except for the CPU bug. So I really don't want to upgrade if this issue is not resolved.

indy5
2008-12-15, 21:34
Catalyst 8.12 has helped my situation with the 100% CPU bug. Although, mine was never as high as 100%, it was way up there with just having xbmc running.

With the new drivers, my setup now sits around 15-20% idle. This is also with removing the <forcedswaptime> entry from advancedsettings.xml. In the past, I had to have the <forcedswaptime> setting, or else I would be up in the 70s or 80s %cpu idle.

780G Chipset, by the way

soder
2008-12-15, 21:50
Quick question : Is the CPU load still 100% with these new drivers? I have the 8.9 drivers myself and everything is working great except for the CPU bug. So I really don't want to upgrade if this issue is not resolved.

Well my high CPU was solve in 8.552 installed from the Ubuntu update manager to.

I have very low cpu in idle, when the screen goes to black.

/Söder

slicemaster
2009-01-04, 12:06
Well, I figured here is a place as good as any to seek help with my ATI XBMC problems. I currently have the ATI drivers that you can install through Ubuntu’s closed-source driver manager but I am not convinced that they are the most recent drivers available. I have XBMC running flawlessly from my desktop which is equipped with an Nvidia graphics card; however my 2 laptops with embedded ATI graphics both have the same problem. XBMC loads up fine and everything is displayed properly as it is on my nvidia based desktop. However, when I go to play a movie from an iso file, the movie starts to play but the video output is all screwed up. When I move the mouse the XBMC controls display properly on the screen but the video playback is messed up, I don’t even know how to describe it. Anyways, I was wondering if anyone could tell me how I could get these drivers installed on my ubuntu rig with a minimum of effort, I am a Linux noob. Also I would really be good to know how to check and see what version of the driver I am running; how can I obtain that information.

Thanks,
Slice

BLKMGK
2009-01-04, 17:06
What version of Ubuntu? What hardware on the laptops?

mr_raider
2009-01-04, 20:20
The 8.12 version will install 8.56.4. It still gives me all kinds of headaches on an x1900xt in 2d mode. 3d gaming is fine though.

slicemaster
2009-01-04, 21:36
What version of Ubuntu? What hardware on the laptops?


Ubuntu 8.04 LTS (Fully Updated) on both notebooks. one has the Express 1100 chipset and the other has a dedicated Mobility Radeon X1400.