Maximum/Best Thumbnail Poster size?

[casperse]

Hi All

I am making a NAS storage with my movies (Bought ones).
And I would like to add Poster/Thumbnails for all the movies!

What is the maximum size (Running 1080P) for a jpg?
it is posters so its not 480x480.....

Thanks
//Casperse

[casperse]

Nobody knows the Max picture size limit? for Poster Thumbs? :no:

[casperse]

Ping....:grin:

[jmarshall]

You can make them as big as you like. XBMC scales all posters by default to be a maximum of 32768 pixels in area. You can alter this via advancedsettings.xml

[casperse]

You can make them as big as you like. XBMC scales all posters by default to be a maximum of 32768 pixels in area. You can alter this via advancedsettings.xml

What is the maximum size it scales it to in a 1920x1080 resolution?
I have tried many different sizes and it "sort of breaks" the size when you would like to have posters...is 480 the best maximum Hight?

32768 pixels? dont understand this value?

[jmarshall]

How large the thumb is displayed is dependent on the skin you are using.

Sorry, it's 262144 pixels in area rather than 32768. It takes the size of the picture you supply, and (if necessary) downscales it by computing the width and the height such that we preserve the aspect ratio of the image, and width*height <= 32768. If the image was square, this would mean 512x512. If the image is four times as tall as it is wide, this would mean 256x1024 and so on.

We specify the value as an area so that it applies to all different sizes and shapes of pictures.

[casperse]

Sorry My question is more related when using the XBMC with a NAS....

In that I would like to have a folder.jpg in each folder....

The poster size schould be "Future proof" so I am talking about 1080P resolution and 16:9 widescreen.

I have now seen the poster pages for XBMC http://www.impawards.com/ and http://www.movieposterdb.com/ there it looks like somthing near the max hight = 1080 pixels.

But the ratio to a Movie poster is also a issue...most are around 1000x1500...

What would be the best resolution to have according to the XBMC scaler function on a HD 1080 screen?

[casperse]

Hmmm since not all programs can scale the Thumbs it would be best to make sure it can fit the screen and the 1000 x 1500 can be resized to 720 x 1080 with no distortion to the org size.... So that could be the answer. and I guess 72 Dpi.

[tcman47]

I just imported all my 80 movies for the 1st time into XBMC and had the IMDB scraper add all the movie info for each title.

I had previously downloaded all dvd box thumbnails for another program and i have manually added them as the thumbnails for all my movies in XBMC, the size of the thumbnails is 450 pixels tall x 300 pixels wide, are these going to look ok on a 37" 720P TV?

For all my imported movies that had a fanart choice i picked one from the list but of my 80 movies, 12 didnt have any fanart to pick from so i went out to themoviedb.org site, downloaded the fanart and then manually attached it to the respective movie via the browse for fanart button. What size should the fanart be to display well on a 37" 720P TV, most of the stuff i have been downloading is around 1280 pixels x 960 pixels, is this about the right size?

Thankx
TC

[casperse]

Hi Tcman47 I still think you schould make this future proof....
The next time you buy a new flatscreen it will be 1080P and then your 450x300 is to small.
And you don't want to do this again....

Can anybody give a "default" poster size for HD screens (-;
You need to "resize" every poster anyway if you want them exactly the same size anyway...XBMC dosent get the same size poster...always

[casperse]

How large the thumb is displayed is dependent on the skin you are using.

Sorry, it's 262144 pixels in area rather than 32768. It takes the size of the picture you supply, and (if necessary) downscales it by computing the width and the height such that we preserve the aspect ratio of the image, and width*height <= 32768. If the image was square, this would mean 512x512. If the image is four times as tall as it is wide, this would mean 256x1024 and so on.

We specify the value as an area so that it applies to all different sizes and shapes of pictures.

So to scale it perfect on a 1080P screen that would be :wxh = 720x1080 = 777600 <= 262144 pixels --> This dosent really fit the 1080 pixel hight.

And would indicate that the only HD poster size that wouldnt be scaled is 256x1024 no higher... but the ratio 1:3 is closer to org poster size than the 1:4 ratio and the webpages used by XBMC to get HD posters are almost all 500 x 1500 = 1:3, and that can be divided to 720 x 1080 which is perfect 1080P resolution.

:sniffle: .... I have a +6 TB NAS and I really really dont want to collect posters in a bigger or different formater ever ever again LOL.....

So some recommendation would be nice.

[jmarshall]

I'm sorry, but I have no idea what you're on about.

Just work out how big you want them. Multiply width by height to work out the total number of pixels. Square root that. Put that in advancedsettings.xml as <thumbsize>.

[LaTropa64]

There is no default poster size. Most that you find end up having an aspect ratio of around .65:1 to .70:1.

I try and save all mine at the highest resolution possible. Most end up being something like 1000x1500.

I save fanart at 1920x1080 or 1280x720.

It all looks like this on my hdd and XBMC picks up the artwork automatically:

Babel (2006).avi
Babel (2006).nfo (text file containing the imdb url)
Babel (2006).tbn (poster art, just a jpg renamed to tbn)
Babel (2006)-fanart.jpg

[casperse]

Thanks LaTropa64...

The thing having posters.jpg on a NAS is that if they are different sizes it looks pretty bad. (Different hights, so you would still adjust them crop & resize and in the future some other SW maybe cant resize the the Jpg's)

And if you have a high resolution screen the Source poster picture needs to be of pretty good quality. So you have answered my Q:

In order to have a ratio that is the same on the XBMC and also SHQ between ascept ratio .65:1 to .70:1. and 1000x1500 = 2:3 = 0,666 which is in the range between the two poster ratios [0,65- 0,7] and if I use other sw than XBMC that cant resize then the max would be 720 x 1080 (Same ratio as 1000x1500) so I think I will use that for default size since there would be no resize if you see them in fullscreen)

Thanks for the Ratios of the posters I couldnt really find that I know US posters are different in size than EU posters...but the ratio was unknown to me.

Another option because it can be hard to find these HD resoltion poster is to just take a scan of the DVD cover.
that is default standard resolution: 3240 x 2175 => and cropped to the DVD Front cover its = 1540 x 2175 = approx 0,7 ratio so that would also be kind of a standard (-; way to get Poster covers so that would give a DVD poster page size of 765x1080 (To fit the 1080 Hight) this also gives better ratio when you resize you dont want them long and skinny with the long faces...and the 765 wide dosent make them fat when using the posters from the XBMC poster page...

My new default value 765 x 1080... Thanks for all your input :D

[casperse]

Just a update to other that might have some issues in what resolution they would like to use for their NAS movie storage.

I couldn't use the 765x1080 because that isn't a scalable ratio so if I always wants to save my poster in the highest possible size then I need to get a poster size that are scalable so after trying to crop & resize posters from many different www sites I got around to these resolutions:

Same ratio (resolutions Ratio = 0,7037) but different resolutions:

760 x 1080 ---> Minimum
1064 x 1512
1140 x 1620
1520 x 2160 ---> Maximum

That gives a pretty good ratio for DVD covers and also many of the XBMC poster pages. :;):