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Hi, there is a way using only ATV to downgrade from Atlantis final to beta2?
This screen calibration problem makes me nuts....:oo:
thanks
Would consider doing this as well...
Is there any place where we can grab a zip file with the ATV XBMC Beta 2 binaries which we can sftp to the box?
Does someone know, when we expect the next avalable version through the launcher / updater?
-netwho
XBMC4Ever
2008-11-17, 18:15
Using ATV + XBMC 8.10 as well, but not sure what the screen calibration issue is. That said, if you guys PM I can send you the beta2 DMG file if that is what you want to do
or you could go here: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=87054&package_id=283294&release_id=631023
The problem he is referring to is setting the OVERSCAN in the 8.10 release does not retain the settings, and it worked fine in BETA 2.
My TV set requires an overscan setting of +/-60 on the sides and +/-40 on the top/bottom. I'm using the 1280x720 (Full Screen) setting.
It works until you restart XBMC, then it reverts to the default overscan settings.
I've looked at the guisettings.xml file, and when you set the overscan the file is updated properly. When you start XBMC, something sets it back to defaults. Manually updating the file before starting XBMC does not help either. :(
<resolution>
<description>1280x720 (Full Screen)</description>
<id>12</id>
<subtitles>694</subtitles>
<pixelratio>1.000000</pixelratio>
<overscan>
<left>0</left>
<top>0</top>
<right>1280</right>
<bottom>720</bottom>
</overscan>
</resolution>
I hate this bug :( .... so XBMC4Ever where I have to put the beta2 DMG file? I assume I will have to sftp it somewhere in the ATV
XBMC4Ever
2008-11-17, 22:01
I hate this bug :( .... so XBMC4Ever where I have to put the beta2 DMG file? I assume I will have to sftp it somewhere in the ATV
Not sure I am effected by this OVERSCAN bug .. either that, or it does not present an annoying issue that I am immediately aware of.
As for going back to Beta2, I would assume it is the opposite to the manual upgrade from Beta2 to 8.10 final ... extract the XBMC.app from the DMG file, scp it into /Users/frontrow/, ssh into the ATV and then sudo mv XBMC.app /Applications/
If davilla has a moment, he should be able to confirm this.
A Milton
2008-11-17, 22:10
extract the XBMC.app from the DMG file, scp it into /Users/frontrow/, ssh into the ATV and then sudo mv XBMC.app /Applications/
If davilla has a moment, he should be able to confirm this.
I'm not davilla, but that sounds about right.
Download and mount the DMG
scp -r /Volumes/XBMC/XBMC.app frontrow@appletv.local:
ssh frontrow@appletv.local
sudo mv /Applications/XBMC.app /Applications/XBMC_8.10.app
sudo mv ~/XBMC.app /Applications/
I'm not davilla, but that sounds about right.
Download and mount the DMG
scp -r /Volumes/XBMC/XBMC.app frontrow@appletv.local:
ssh frontrow@appletv.local
sudo mv /Applications/XBMC.app /Applications/XBMC_8.10.app
sudo mv ~/XBMC.app /Applications/
Looks correct but some home networks will not use "appletv.local" and the actual IP address will be require.
@Tarv -> Yes, that's the overscan bug. Very high on the priority list and a bug fix for the release is already in the planning stages.
I don't have a mac....is there a way to extract the dmg image "inside" the ATV or using ubuntu?
XBMC4Ever
2008-11-17, 22:33
No MAC here either .. but if one extrapolates from the ATV-USB for Windows ...
tools\7-zip\7z.exe e XBMC_for_Mac-Atlantis-Beta_2.dmg XBMC.app
then SCP the XBMC.app into /Users/Frontrow
Yes ? :eek:
I don't have a mac....is there a way to extract the dmg image "inside" the ATV or using ubuntu?
scp the dmg to the AppleTV.
sudo hdiutil attach XBMC_for_Mac-Atlantis-Beta_2.dmg
sudo installer -pkg /Volumes/XBMC/"XBMC Media Center.mpkg" -target /
sudo hdiutil detach /Volumes/XBMC
make sure you mv the installed version out of /Applications FIRST and sometimes the installer will make a symlink that needs to be removed
check for a symlink at /Users/frontrow/Movies/XBMC
ls -la /Users/frontrow/Movies/XBMC
if present, remove it
sudo rm /Users/frontrow/Movies/XBMC
XBMC4Ever
2008-11-17, 22:45
Alrighty then ... guess I should have tried that first :sniffle:
Looks like you need to extract 4.hfs from the DMG first and then extract XBMC from 4.hfs as a second step
Learning on the fly .. what a blast ... not ! :oo:
EDIT -- if you use a Windoze system anyway ... but I like davilla's approach outlined above much better !
No MAC here either .. but if one extrapolates from the ATV-USB for Windows ...
tools\7-zip\7z.exe e XBMC_for_Mac-Atlantis-Beta_2.dmg XBMC.app
then SCP the XBMC.app into /Users/Frontrow
Yes ? :eek:
It's a little more complicated than this. First you need to pull out the hfs part, then pull the files from the hfs part. And as XBMC.app will appear as a directory under Windows. I think you will need the recursive switch to extract that directory and all files/directory under it.
And scp will be "scp -r" because it's really a directory and you want everything.
XBMC4Ever
2008-11-17, 22:57
Very interesting overlap in the forums at times :grin:
And when I say SCP, I don't necessarily mean it literally.
Similar to ^tWist^ with his Ubuntu, I am using WindBlows, so when I say SCP, I fire up WinSCP and relocate what is necessary to /Users/Frontrow.
Then I SSH in with Putty and continue from there.
Cross-platform chats can get obviously get confusing :nod:
But I like where this DIY manual XBMC repalcement guide is going for us non-OSX peeps
@Tarv -> Yes, that's the overscan bug. Very high on the priority list and a bug fix for the release is already in the planning stages.
Thanks for the update davilla. I can live with it for now as XBMC never gets turned off anyway :)
Very interesting overlap in the forums at times :grin:
And when I say SCP, I don't necessarily mean it literally.
Similar to ^tWist^ with his Ubuntu, I am using WindBlows, so when I say SCP, I fire up WinSCP and relocate what is necessary to /Users/Frontrow.
Then I SSH in with Putty and continue from there.
Cross-platform chats can get obviously get confusing :nod:
But I like where this DIY manual XBMC repalcement guide is going for us non-OSX peeps
yes.
I wish
7z.exe e XBMC_for_Mac-Atlantis-Beta_2.dmg XBMC.app
worked, it would save the step of having to extract the hfs part out when one just needed one file. Last time I tried 7z to do it directly it failed and I would be very interested in if a newer version of 7z could extract files/directories directly from the dmg without having to first pull out the hfs part.
Lumpsack
2008-11-18, 03:52
Looks correct but some home networks will not use "appletv.local" and the actual IP address will be require.
@Tarv -> Yes, that's the overscan bug. Very high on the priority list and a bug fix for the release is already in the planning stages.
Thats great to hear, I too have that bug - quite annoying, but not a show stopper.
bmfrosty
2008-11-18, 05:49
Overscan bug huh. I remember buying an appletv right after they came out, and then returning it because I couldn't adjust overscan.
Still waiting on feedback from a test build on a fix for the overscan issue. If any wants to test it, email (not PM) to davilla@xbmc.org requesting the test build.
nc88keyz
2008-11-19, 02:26
i can confirm this bug , but a temporary workaround is :
zoom the screen in just a little and it should fit with 1:1 pixel ratio on LCDS.
The zoom adjustment does retain with a reboot or exit to ATV OS.
thanks.
second versions is out for testing.
second versions is out for testing.
I've placed the XBMC.app in the /Applications folder but i got the error:
CANNOT LAUNCH XBMC/BOXEE FROM PATH: /Applications/XBMC.app/Contents/MacOS/XBMC
I think it's just a permissions error.
Can you tell me the right chmod permissions to apply to the XBMC.app folder?
ok I've copied the permissions from the old XBMC.app folder.
now works and the overscan issue is fixed :D
the problem is that I cannot use Mediastream skin (PM3.HD and PM3 works). when I try to select Mediastream it's in grey and says "incompatible skin. we require skins version 2.00 or higher"
any idea?
XBMC4Ever
2008-11-19, 20:51
What are the permissions supposed to be for XBMC.app ??
Sounds like more positive goodies to add to the DIY manual for ATV/XBMC
:nod:
What are the permissions supposed to be for XBMC.app ??
Sounds like more positive goodies to add to the DIY manual for ATV/XBMC
:nod:
Under proper OSX, it depends where it's located.
/Applications -> root:wheel
/Users/<username>/<somedirectory> => <username>:admin
on appletv, <username> is frontrow
on OSX, <username> is the username of the user.
and what about the Mediastream problem....you did it on purpose Scott to disable it or I did something wrong?
by the way thanks for the overscan fix :;):
and what about the Mediastream problem....you did it on purpose Scott to disable it or I did something wrong?
by the way thanks for the overscan fix :;):
Let's get on the same page. The skins have xbmc version dependencies, normally for release the skin is inside XBMC.app unless it was added by the user. You have downgraded from xbmc.app 8.10 release to xbmc.app 8.10 beta2. So need to track down mediastream skin location (either in xbmc.app) or in userdata and install the compatible version.
Or is this one of the two test versions for fixing the overscan. Sometimes it is difficult to associate email names with forum usernames so I'm not sure who I'm talking to or with the hundreds of emails/forums I deal with, it's hard to remember squat ::))
Let's get on the same page. The skins have xbmc version dependencies, normally for release the skin is inside XBMC.app unless it was added by the user. You have downgraded from xbmc.app 8.10 release to xbmc.app 8.10 beta2. So need to track down mediastream skin location (either in xbmc.app) or in userdata and install the compatible version.
Or is this one of the two test versions for fixing the overscan. Sometimes it is difficult to associate email names with forum usernames so I'm not sure who I'm talking to or with the hundreds of emails/forums I deal with, it's hard to remember squat ::))
I'm using the second test version taken from your ftp. So I'll not consider it a downgrade unless your test version is based on 8.10 beta 2
I'm using the second test version taken from your ftp. So I'll not consider it a downgrade unless your test version is based on 8.10 beta 2
ok, now I'm in sync. The build is a quick one just to check if the overscan error is properly fixed and I skipped several packaging steps. The standard skin should be ok, not sure about the mediastream one. If you are seeing that error running xbmc_T42, then the packaging of mediastream is stale and you should be able to extract it from the Atlantis xbmc.app release and replace the one inside xbmc_T42.
ok, now I'm in sync. The build is a quick one just to check if the overscan error is properly fixed and I skipped several packaging steps. The standard skin should be ok, not sure about the mediastream one. If you are seeing that error running xbmc_T42, then the packaging of mediastream is stale and you should be able to extract it from the Atlantis xbmc.app release and replace the one inside xbmc_T42.
Can't grab the T42 your ftp seems down.....I'll give it a try later
ftp still down davilla...
I think you have a lot more to deal fixing the problem regarding the 2.3 problem but if you can take a minute to fix the ftp problem I would appreciate it :grin:
ftp still down davilla...
I think you have a lot more to deal fixing the problem regarding the 2.3 problem but if you can take a minute to fix the ftp problem I would appreciate it :grin:
Works from here:
Skunkworks:davilla$ ftp ftp.XXXXX.net
Connected to ftp.XXXXX.net.
220---------- Welcome to Pure-FTPd [TLS] ----------
220-Local time is now 13:51. Server port: 21.
220-This is a private system - No anonymous login
220-IPv6 connections are also welcome on this server.
220 You will be disconnected after 15 minutes of inactivity.
The ftp server is on a DSL line and I saw an Embark truck working in the roadside box on the way to work this morning.
wulf2000
2008-11-20, 21:22
I've tried downgrading. XBMC starts, but for some reason, my remote quit and the rss feed suggests there is no internet connection. Does anybody have the same experience, or maybe know how to solve this?
>> the latest launcher update solved all problems. Thanks davilla.
ok, now I'm in sync. The build is a quick one just to check if the overscan error is properly fixed and I skipped several packaging steps. The standard skin should be ok, not sure about the mediastream one. If you are seeing that error running xbmc_T42, then the packaging of mediastream is stale and you should be able to extract it from the Atlantis xbmc.app release and replace the one inside xbmc_T42.
There is no T42 release in your ftp Scott:
Name Size Last Modified
File:XBMC_T40.zip 55056 KB 11/18/2008 01:51:00 AM
File:XBMC_T41.zip 55057 KB 11/19/2008 03:07:00 AM
File:appletv_utils.zip 905 KB 09/09/2008 08:26:00 AM
:confused2:
There is no T42 release in your ftp Scott:
Name Size Last Modified
File:XBMC_T40.zip 55056 KB 11/18/2008 01:51:00 AM
File:XBMC_T41.zip 55057 KB 11/19/2008 03:07:00 AM
File:appletv_utils.zip 905 KB 09/09/2008 08:26:00 AM
:confused2:
sorry sould be -> XBMC_T41.zip
XBMC4Ever
2008-11-23, 18:46
Hey davilla,
Now that ATV 2.3+XBMCLauncher 0.8 are happy campers, any idea when you might be pushing a full bug release (8.11?) out into the public world ??
I'd rather do a nuke 'n pave in honour of the full meal deal in lieu of completing one now and another soon after.
Just checkin' :nerd:
PS .. thanks for ATV USB Creator v1.0b9 for both MAC and WIN :)
Hey davilla,
Now that ATV 2.3+XBMCLauncher 0.8 are happy campers, any idea when you might be pushing a full bug release (8.11?) out into the public world ??
I'd rather do a nuke 'n pave in honour of the full meal deal in lieu of completing one now and another soon after.
In the queue, the ATV 2.3 update sidelined it. Changes are in svn and I think we are just waiting on building the release.
XBMC4Ever
2008-11-24, 01:43
Life happens.
Hopefully the new "disable auto-update" in XBMCLauncher 0.8 will sideline future sidelines .. assuming people are aware of the feature, its benefits and actually use it :)
Allowing updates only when the AppleTV/XBMC community is ready for them should keep the pressures to a minimum.
Many thanks for your dedication to the project ... if you had a nickle for every happy XBMC person ... well you know ... :D
All unusable :-(
with 8.10 i have a screen calibration bug
with beta2 the apple remote not works here, cant do nothing
with XBMC_T41.zip i have no context menu, apple remote hold menu not works!?
and now reinstalling 8.10 not works, i deleted XBMC and all prefs and
a install with xbmc launcher or manual with terminal, and everytime it stops with error 6
only manual install of XBMC T41 runs, any ideas ?
and why is the context menu not working ?
the calibration is killing me too, but in the meantime i just used the skin zoom function (same place as you choose skin) that works ok until the calibration is sloved (and it saves the setting so you dont have to do it more than once)
i know its not perfect, but its close. (unless you're a perfectionist that cant live with a screen ratio might be a few pixels off hehe)
/Rod