View Full Version : PM3.HD skin problem (Atlantis Beta 1)
babanoosh
2008-09-22, 00:01
Settings --> startup screen --> programs --> uh-oh, no background... which is really a more fundamental problem in that devs have seemingly forgotten about the xbox in cross-platform nirvana ;)
Can we get a programs button on the PM3 HD home screen as well as a background for programs?
I second this. I would love to use this and probably still will on my original xbox but will still like a programs tab. can a folder be added as a shortcut in favorites? I would test this but my xbox died last week and I will be picking up another in the next week or so....
babanoosh
2008-09-22, 01:10
yes it can, but no background .png
babanoosh
2008-09-22, 01:17
i'm using mediastream in the interim... kinda like it; sort of the hollywood version of PMIII.HD and it finally turned me over to library mode.
I don't know why the heck mediastream skin has videos, movies, and tv off the main blade though with seemingly no way to assign each to a different folder... maybe they are for different shares, but xbmc always remembers last so I guess you can see the problem with that. Anyway I digress...
jmarshall
2008-09-22, 01:44
The startup screen thing is a bug. Please post a trac report about it.
The missing programs is not a bug - it's by design, as most platforms don't have it.
Cheers,
Jonathan
babanoosh
2008-09-22, 03:40
The startup screen thing is a bug. Please post a trac report about it.
This is a bit of a conflict of interest you see... it's quite obvious the bug fix is simply removing my programs as a start up option.
The missing programs is not a bug - it's by design, as most platforms don't have it.
Cheers,
Jonathan
I was kind of afraid of that. But you see Jonathan, most platforms don't have a need for it. Isn't it obvious why it should probably be left on the Xbox, at least as an option in the settings? XBMC on the Xbox isn't running on a full fledged Operating System and Window Manager. W/o the option to go to get to one's emulators, Apps, and Xbox 1 Games... well it's disingenuous to the Xbox. Plus, a great many of us have spend a lot of time with icons/cover art and the like… this app is supposed to be a dashboard for the Xbox is it not? Plus, mediastream skin has not only ‘programs’ on the home window, but the option to disable such things… so why can’t the new default skin?
jmarshall
2008-09-22, 04:20
It's not a question of "leaving it on". The skin was designed from the ground up without it. It's thus a question of adding it in. I'm sure a patch would be most welcome (obviously only enabled when the platform is xbox).
Cheers,
Jonathan
willers.nail
2008-09-22, 10:50
I also really want to see the programs button back. Love the new PM3.HD skin and this is my only main gripe about it. Please don't forget about us xbox users :;):
Yep just spent hours coping all my Xbox games to HDD and setting up all the wide icons... kinda stuffed without it... :(
babanoosh
2008-09-22, 15:32
It's not a question of "leaving it on". The skin was designed from the ground up without it. It's thus a question of adding it in. I'm sure a patch would be most welcome (obviously only enabled when the platform is xbox).
Cheers,
Jonathan
So then you and/or the other devs will work on this for the final build?
jmarshall
2008-09-23, 00:06
I won't, no. Whether anyone else does is up to them. Thus the request for a patch.
Cheers,
Jonathan
TeknoJnky
2008-09-23, 01:55
I always wondered why it was not a standard user option (for all skins) to enable/disable any individual home page menu's.
I can not imagine why someone would exclude programs, any more than they would exclude a video/movie, music or pictures menu.
As with all things, I guess it comes down to user preference and/or developer perogative.
Because the more options you add the harder it is for new users to get to grips with it
Programs was deliberately not done because OSX win32 and Linux that the skin was made for can not properly run programs.
This is the whole reason the old PM3 is still included in the SVN so people can still use it on xbox and be no worse off then they were the day before PM3.HD was added
rodalpho
2008-09-23, 02:34
Jezz, where do programs-style plugins go now?
They can go anywhere you like they work perfectly fine from the videos pictures or music plugin section.
But my original Idea was to actually give scripts its own plugins section for the ones like script downloader
rodalpho
2008-09-23, 04:49
Ahhhh I didn't know that. Yes, the script downloader was exactly what I was referring to. Sounds good.
babanoosh
2008-09-23, 16:31
Because the more options you add the harder it is for new users to get to grips with it
Programs was deliberately not done because OSX win32 and Linux that the skin was made for can not properly run programs.
This is the whole reason the old PM3 is still included in the SVN so people can still use it on xbox and be no worse off then they were the day before PM3.HD was added
I guess the counter argument was that Programs is integral to the Xbox and XBMC was (and still largely is) a dashboard replacement. In filling that gap, i believe access to programs is necessary.
But yes I see your point... the bottom line is that XBMC has grown beyond the Xbox and now is fading away in it's effort to corner the cross platform market.
I could use the old the old PMIII yes, but the new one is a tease so I don't want to drive the old hoopty skin any more.
Well, I have access to my games, and emulators via the favorites menu. Can you (or anyone) just tell me how to encompass a background skin when acessing programs this way. Right now, it's just black.
When I get a chance I am going to finish / make all the program windows properly so if someone adds a link to programs in the main menu it will work and look OK I kind of came to the conclusion if someone has a Program element in their favorites from another skin and use it to access the window it will be black so that is a bug I will fix sooner than later. But I'm still not officially adding a button to home for a while yet
rodalpho
2008-09-24, 02:43
Jezz, any thoughts about this?
When you show the controls (the cross-shaped control with FF, REW, audio, bookmarks, etc) in the old PM3 it also displayed the current position within the video in the upper right corner. I was accustomed to this behavior and miss it. Any reason why it was removed? Any chance we could get an option to show it again?
Hack_kid
2008-09-30, 18:25
How do you go aabout submitting a patch?
I'm a long-time Xbox/XBMC user.
PM3.HD is unusable without Programs access.
then don't use it
problem solved
PrimusZa1
2008-10-07, 03:30
Jezz_X...How's this for a temp Xbox Solution?
http://s3.supload.com/thumbs/default/screenshotHOME.jpg (http://s3.supload.com/free/screenshotHOME.jpg/view/)
http://s3.supload.com/thumbs/default/screenshotPROG.jpg (http://s3.supload.com/free/screenshotPROG.jpg/view/)
http://s3.supload.com/thumbs/default/screenshotGAME.jpg (http://s3.supload.com/free/screenshotGAME.jpg/view/)
Could you post more details of how you got programs on the home screen?:cool:
rwparris2
2008-10-08, 05:14
You guys can just stick programs in your favorites list and you'll be fine.
PrimusZa1
2008-10-08, 13:29
Could you post more details of how you got programs on the home screen?:cool:
I edited the Home.xml,Myprograms.xml and MyGameSaves.xml..added the program backgrounds back from PM3 in the media directory then rebuilt the Home-Menu-Back.png file in the Media directory to allow for the 7th button..Here's some new shots and the link to the download this workaround.
I revised it since I last posted it to put the programs button back at the top of the menu
http://s3.supload.com/thumbs/default/HomeRVD.jpg (http://s3.supload.com/free/HomeRVD.jpg/view/)http://s3.supload.com/thumbs/default/Programs.jpg (http://s3.supload.com/free/Programs.jpg/view/)
http://s3.supload.com/thumbs/default/Emu-20081008051317.jpg (http://s3.supload.com/free/Emu-20081008051317.jpg/view/)http://s3.supload.com/thumbs/default/Game.jpg (http://s3.supload.com/free/Game.jpg/view/)
http://www.mediafire.com/?1pngfsc45ps
@Jezz_X ....I hope it was ok for me to post this...
....@Jezz_X ....I hope it was ok for me to post this...
Sure its fine but just so you know I'm about to add an official one to the SVN
PrimusZa1
2008-10-08, 18:22
Sure its fine but just so you know I'm about to add an official one to the SVN
No no thats much better! I knew I should have waited for you to post a reply from my first screen shots.. Thanks for the fix!!!
Thanks for the upload PrimusZa1, It saves me a whole load of work Rewriting .xmls
PrimusZa1
2008-10-10, 12:39
Thanks for the upload PrimusZa1, It saves me a whole load of work Rewriting .xmls
No problem Paul but Jezz_X iplemeted this offically (and I must say way better then I did:nod:)the day I posted that. You might want to go to the SVN and grab the updated textures and XML from it.
minerdigs
2008-12-06, 02:20
I just downloaded the PM3.HD skin for Xbox Rev 16477 and I don't see any setting that I can turn on Programs for the Home screen.
So I would assume that it is not completed yet.
I just downloaded the PM3.HD skin for Xbox Rev 16477 and I don't see any setting that I can turn on Programs for the Home screen.
So I would assume that it is not completed yet.
It should be there looking at the code its under
Settings --> Skin Settings --> Home Window
then its the first option "Show Programs in Main Menu"
nitropenda
2008-12-23, 01:09
Hi Jezz_X,
It should be there looking at the code its under
Settings --> Skin Settings --> Home Window
then its the first option "Show Programs in Main Menu"
I downloaded "XBMC-SVN_2008-12-07_rev16491-T3CH" for Xbox, but I can't find the above "Switch" for activating "Programs" in the Home-Screen. ???
Is the feature not active in XBMC-SVN_2008-12-07_rev16491-T3CH?
Nitropenda
It should be their so unless the persons who make t3ch are doing it wrong and not including the updated skin. I have no idea I personally don't use the xbox version anymore so maybe one of the other team members that do can check ?
sho maybe ?