XBox and Pronto

[TechLife]

Hey Guys!

I have searched the forum and the net for information on using a pronto with my XBox for XBMC. I have found the famous RCA-5-Pronto-Codes_01 file and downloaded it several times. I pull the file into ProntoEdit, test the codes with <displayremotecodes> enabled and get NOTHING. When I use the XBox remote the little codes popup just fine.

I don't understand WHY this is not working for me as it seems that many others have had a large amount of success. In an attempt to figure all this out, I have done the following...

First, I tried but could not get the pronto (a 3000 I borrowed from work) to learn the codes directly from the XBox remote. So instead I learned the codes from the original xbox remote to a URC MX900. Tested this on the XBox and the codes worked fine. Then, I used the MX900 to teach the codes to the pronto. Learned fine. Worked fine.

From there I looked at the hex codes in prontoedit and found they are completely different from that in the .ccf file. For example:

OBC87 in file: 0000 0048 0000 001A 00E2 00E2 001C 0037 001C 0073 001C 0037 001C 0073 001C 0037 001C 0073 001C 0037 001C 0073 001C 0037 001C 0073 001C 0073 001C 0073 001C 0073 001C 0037 001C 0073 001C 0037 001C 0073 001C 0037 001C 0073 001C 0037 001C 0073 001C 0037 001C 0037 001C 0037 001C 01E8

OBC87 in my pronto edit: 0000 006E 001E 0000 0013 0013 0036 0013 0013 003A 0036 0013 0013 003A 0013 003A 0013 003A 0013 003A 0036 0013 0013 003A 0036 0013 0013 003A 0036 0013 0013 003A 0013 01A6 0013 0013 0036 0013 0013 003A 0036 0013 0013 003A 0013 003A 0013 003A 0013 003A 0036 0013 0013 003A 0036 0013 0013 003A 0036 0013 0013 003A 0013 0013

I then took the hex code I generated and used the Pronto IR tool mentioned in one of your posts elsewhere in the forum to analyze this data. In the original program, all I get for info is as follows:
Device: Raw/Unknown
Carrier: 006e (110 cycles = 37.863)
0: 0036 0013
1: 0013 003a

There is also a modded version of IR Tool on Remote Central which I tried as well. It returned the above plus the following:

Protocol: GXB
Device: 10
OBC: 21
EFC: 189

I have been hunting the web trying to find any info or additional codes for this GXB protocol to no avail. I have also broken it down on a binary level and tried to manipulate the individual bytes contained then convert those back to hex in IR tool. I have been able to duplicate other "known" codes such as OBC88, 47, etc. but nothing else.

Basically, I am trying to expand the capabilities of my remote to add many more functions, as I'm sure most of you have done, but I am starting to bang my head off the wall.

I am going to continue to try to decipher all of this and try to get something working. If anyone has ANY input on this or can point me in the right direction, it would be greatly appreciated!!!

[TechLife]

Seriously? No one has run into ANY problem with getting RCA codes to work with their XBox IR dongle?

[sho]

Try using a RCA (Manufactuer) DVD or VCR from the built in device database.
If the Pronto is not broken it should work for the basics (play pause etc).
Here is all the info I compiled getting my TSU3000 up and running:
http://xbmc.org/wiki/?title=Universal_Remote_Control

PS did you use ProntoEdit to learn the codes (I cannot remember if it's mandatory, all I know I had no problems doing it after I read up on how to do it).

[TechLife]

Hey Sho - thx for the reply.

I have tried the codes from the built-in database on both the Universal & the Philips remotes for ALL of the RCA DVD and VCR devices listed. There are a metric f-load of codes between the two and nothing works. This is what has me baffled. The pronto, when using the learned codes from the XBox remote, works fine. Same deal with the Universal. The software for both support entry of hex codes which I have tried as well. Both those in the wiki and others including some generic RCA codes. None of those work either. >.<

This is why I'm banging my head off the wall. I had found the wiki info several days ago and have read thoroughly a few times at this point. It seems as cut and dry as it gets but I'm just not having any luck here. I am a pro audio/video installer and program remotes, touch panels, etc. for a living. I can't believe I am getting my butt kicked by an XBox. =P

Any ideas are much appreciated =)

[sho]

I can mail you my configuration file if you send me a pm with your e-mail address.
Is your remote and dongle definitely original M$? (I seem to remember discussion on OEMs that did not use the RCA protocol)

[TechLife]

Wait a second here...I just had a thought...

I picked this remote/dongle up used from EB. The remote certainly appears to be a standard RCA remote from the shape. I think all RCA remotes are the same shape LOL. Anyway, I'm thinking there is a good chance that this isn't a genuine Microsoft dongle/remote even though it looks just like it. Some cheap knock-off using some huji-fuji code set. It certainly would explain all the trouble I've been having...

So. Sho, would you be kind enough to look at the back of your dongle and tell me how it's labeled? Mine has a silver sticker on the back with the following:

XBOX DVD Remote Control
ITEM # CY-860
MADE IN CHINA

If yours (which I'm confident is the genuine article) is different, then we could have answer right here.

I certainly appreciate it!!

[TechLife]

looks like you had the same thought LOL

[sho]

I'd say it's almost definately an OEM, mine has a silver sticker with "Xbox DVD Movie Playback Kit" Microsoft Address, part no X08-25402 certification logos and all sort of ****.

I will send you the pcf tomorrow, I have it at work. (Even though it is not going to help you much with this dongle).

[TechLife]

Yep. That's definitely the problem.

I just found a sealed genuine M$ on eBay for $7 shipped. Needless to say I bought it. =P

If you don't mind sending me your file anyway, I certainly would appreciate it!!

If you're bored sometime, a note in one of the wiki's about how to identify a genuine M$ dongle and how vitally important it is to have one (and not a cheap knock-off) may save someone else a major headache. I blew almost my entire weekend on this darn thing.

Though, I have to admit, dissecting the IR and manually manipulating the bits with some good old binary math was rather fun... =P

[Anastrophe]

This is a strange one. I've not got a universal remote yet although I'm looking at the Prontos on Ebay just now.

I do have an orginal MS remote and two OEM DVD kits though, and all these are interchangeble, I can use any of the remotes on any of the dongles - no idea how that works based on your problems, unless I have a better OEM/rip-off than you do.

[sho]

It just means that your OEMs use the RCA IR protocol.