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Would it be possible to support the new Remote App that can be downloaded free from Apple App Store?
Gamester17
2008-07-21, 15:33
http://xbmc.org/forum/showthread.php?t=31157
http://xbmc.org/forum/showthread.php?t=34379
http://xbmc.org/forum/showthread.php?t=31367
http://xbmc.org/forum/showthread.php?t=33663
http://xbmc.org/forum/showthread.php?t=31157
http://xbmc.org/forum/showthread.php?t=34379
http://xbmc.org/forum/showthread.php?t=31367
http://xbmc.org/forum/showthread.php?t=33663
None of the above soulutions actually work. Would it be possible to use the new OFFICIAL iPhone RemoteApp to control XBMC?
http://www.apple.com/itunes/remote/
Since the regular Apple remote workes with XBMC, maby the new remote also works?
Gamester17
2008-07-21, 17:00
if it has an open API (does it?) then you could maybe write an EventClient (http://www.xbmc.org/wiki/?title=EventServer) for it, ...though as XBMC's EventServer (http://www.xbmc.org/wiki/?title=EventServer) does not yet feature two-way communication I am not sure if everything could be supported as of yet.
This one does work (now)
http://xbmc.org/forum/showthread.php?t=31157
None of the above soulutions actually work. Would it be possible to use the new OFFICIAL iPhone RemoteApp to control XBMC?
http://www.apple.com/itunes/remote/
Since the regular Apple remote workes with XBMC, maby the new remote also works?
IIRC the official SDK only supports clientside sockets (the unofficial supports both server- and clientside), that means that only one way communication is gonna work, still that is enough for you to controll anything, but its harder to get data from XBMC.
I have been trying to get the SDK to work on linux but have been unable sofar so I cant really help you but if you need anything done with XBMC in this regard (I would loooove to controll XBMC via iPod Touch) please poke me and Ill do my best to help you.
<EDIT> I missread the whole post so its abit null and void but I'lll leave my response if anyone finds it interesting </EDIT>
I'm currently working on one for ver 2.0 firmware.
Hopefully should have something ready in a week or two.
I'm currently working on one for ver 2.0 firmware.
Hopefully should have something ready in a week or two.
Great news! Make sure to put a DONATE button somewhere!
I'm currently working on one for ver 2.0 firmware.
Hopefully should have something ready in a week or two.
May I ask how you are creating it? With EventServer system or with the HTTPApi, incase the first please make any requests you want on the EventServer and I will try my best to make them happen :rolleyes:
I really want my iPod controll >)
May I ask how you are creating it? With EventServer system or with the HTTPApi, incase the first please make any requests you want on the EventServer and I will try my best to make them happen :rolleyes:
I really want my iPod controll >)
I'm using the HTTPApi.
I guess I should be a little clearer though.
The 'remote' I'm creating is pretty much a clone of the iTunes 'Remote' app only difference obviously will be that it will control XBMC.
It currently dosen't act as a traditional remote, like up/down/left/right etc.
Though no reason it couldn't have this as a feature, but currently isn't planned for the first version.
Anyway, current status is that I've got the 'Artists' and 'Albums' tab implemented. It looks and functions exactly like the itunes remote, so has shuffle, cover art and all that.
Next to do is the 'Now Playing' screen.
Only limitation I'm coming up against so far is using the HTTP Api to queue the tracks. As far as I can see you have to make a seperate request for each file that is to be queued. What I would really like is a way to queue via say a SQL statement, in order to make things a bit smarter when queuing loads of tracks. Anyone have any suggestions here ?
If anyone is interested here's an update on my progress:
http://dave.fumberger.com/?p=11
What's posted there is a fairly complete overview of all the screens/views in the app.
So if anyone has any feature requests/things they'd like to see now would be the time to let me know.
If anyone is interested here's an update on my progress:
http://dave.fumberger.com/?p=11
What's posted there is a fairly complete overview of all the screens/views in the app.
So if anyone has any feature requests/things they'd like to see now would be the time to let me know.
Wow!
Will there be an update to your repository before release? Then I can give you even more feedback.
Feedback:
I'm using the Aeon-skin. The icon size is not the same as in your screenshots. Is that a problem, or do you handle every type/size?
Is it possible to turn of the xbox from your app?
Where can I donate?
chrislee149
2008-08-18, 00:37
It's looking very good, but you should use standard Apple icon glyphs.
ultrabrutal
2008-08-18, 01:19
Will this work on an iPod Touch or is it only for iPhone? Asks a total Apple noob ;)
will it control my PC XBMC like a IR remote control or is this for watching and listen to files in the IPHONE instead of computer?
Wow!
I'm using the Aeon-skin. The icon size is not the same as in your screenshots. Is that a problem, or do you handle every type/size?
I've been basing that off the standard grabbers for XBMC, so no it doesn't support all type/size. But if you give me some examples of where things are different I can look at supporting this.
Is it possible to turn of the xbox from your app?
I forgot to mention that if you turn the iphone upside down it will turn into a
'standard' remote with up/down/left/right etc , and this will have the ability to turn off/restart there.
Where can I donate?
No where yet! Appreciate the though, will have somewhere once it's released.
It's looking very good, but you should use standard Apple icon glyphs. [QUOTE]
I agree, I want to keep everything as standard as possible. Though unless I'm missing something most of the icons that apple uses in their remote aren't included with the SDK. So I'm missing most of the icons at the moment, hopefully I'll be able to come up with something, but if you know of anywhere that has appropriate icons that would be helpful.
[QUOTE]
Will this work on an iPod Touch or is it only for iPhone? Asks a total Apple noob
Will work on both ! (Assuming you've upgraded to V2.0)
I've actually only got an iPod Touch myself which is what I'm testing on.
will it control my PC XBMC like a IR remote control or is this for watching and listen to files in the IPHONE instead of computer?
It's to control your XBMC from your iPhone/iPod Touch.
No video/sound is transferred to the iPhone/iPod Touch.
It's to control your XBMC from your iPhone/iPod Touch.
No video/sound is transferred to the iPhone/iPod Touch.
Great, I've been looking for something like this since I can't get my remote to work with XBMC and I'm getting tired of getting up and walk to the computer for changing episodes :).
Looking toward to it.
Rand Al Thor
2008-08-18, 04:03
I've been basing that off the standard grabbers for XBMC, so no it doesn't support all type/size. But if you give me some examples of where things are different I can look at supporting this.
Aeon uses images for tv shows that are the same aspect/dimensions as movie posters. That is the only difference. They can now be scraped via thetvdb.com scraper. You can set your preferences in the scraper dialog. So, I am assuming that if all your app is doing is connecting to the xbmc db and displaying the image then there shouldn't be a problem. Only thing I can think of is there is no space to list the shows name. You could perhaps use the same layout as you use for movies. Personally, I would like to see all the images a little bigger, but that is just my preference. Great work by the way. Absolutely looking forward to this!
Aeon uses images for tv shows that are the same aspect/dimensions as movie posters. That is the only difference. They can now be scraped via thetvdb.com scraper. You can set your preferences in the scraper dialog. So, I am assuming that if all your app is doing is connecting to the xbmc db and displaying the image then there shouldn't be a problem. Only thing I can think of is there is no space to list the shows name. You could perhaps use the same layout as you use for movies. Personally, I would like to see all the images a little bigger, but that is just my preference. Great work by the way. Absolutely looking forward to this!
Currently the TV show tries to determine if the cover art is of the 'wide' aspect. If it is, it assumes the name is in the art and chooses not to display the text. Otherwise it just displays the standard text with no image.
I can extend it so that when there is no wide aspect but there is an image available to switch to the 'movie cover' display.
Good point on the image sizes, I agree it's just getting the balance between text/image size right. I'll have a play around and see if I can improve on this.
I'm wondering if it would be preferable to go really big with the movies. So for instance you see maybe two movies per page which would then give the option of showing some extra info (year, rating, director etc) along side it. As I guess in this instance you'd prefer to see more about the movie than more movies at a time, but this could come down to your movie collection size and personal preference..
Was also considering adding an info page for the movies before they are played. So you select the movie, which would then present the movie info at which point you could then you'd click 'play' or 'back'
Rand Al Thor
2008-08-18, 17:19
Those all sound like great ideas. Since I am no iphone dev I don't really know how it works but, would it be possible to include say 2 or 3 views for each section? For movies one view could be very visually appealing, with large cover art and some movie info. This same view could perhaps have the alphabet listed along the side in small letters to make jumps to particular letters of the movie collection. Then a second movie view that would allow fast scrolling through a large collection, ie similar to what you have now smaller images and lots of items on the page. You could maybe switch views by rotating the phone. Vertical for list and horizontal for large images with info. Or perhaps use the rotation of the phone to bring up a true info screen as you had mentioned before with full movie details and a play button. As a skinner, I would also like to know what the chances are of the interface being at least minimally skinnable? ie. color scheme/background images, nothing fancy. Just some thoughts. Great work so far!
pantherman007
2008-08-18, 18:15
I was so glad to find that someone was working on this. I will totally donate to you on the side, or pay via iTunes, for this app!
Based on how you've described the design, I'm assuming that the images for movies/TV/albums aren't stored locally on the phone, but stream across the network as the remote is being used. If local caching of the images is possible, that would be my preference for performance reasons. Especially as I've been using large, high-quality images so that things display nicely in 720/1080 on the HDTV - it would be unfortunate if those caused slowness when using the remote app.
I was so glad to find that someone was working on this. I will totally donate to you on the side, or pay via iTunes, for this app!
Based on how you've described the design, I'm assuming that the images for movies/TV/albums aren't stored locally on the phone, but stream across the network as the remote is being used. If local caching of the images is possible, that would be my preference for performance reasons. Especially as I've been using large, high-quality images so that things display nicely in 720/1080 on the HDTV - it would be unfortunate if those caused slowness when using the remote app.
Yeah nothing is currently stored on the phone.
I've been testing with the default out of the box xbmc settings as far as images go, which don't seem to slow things down and all the fetching is done in a separate thread and one at a time to try and avoid getting in the way.
Though I'm yet to test with images of 720/1080 size, but I'll look into it and see if there are any issues.
But I had been thinking about caching. I know you can save data out but unsure as to if there are any limits to the data etc that can be stored .. can't see anything in the documentation though it all appears to be possible.
Caching would certainly make things more efficient as I could store the iphone optimized versions of the images rather than the larger ones that it needs to pull down.
But anyway, usability is at the top of my list of priorities. Trying to make sure it's scalable and I'd really hate for it to be anything less than fast.
Those all sound like great ideas. Since I am no iphone dev I don't really know how it works but, would it be possible to include say 2 or 3 views for each section?
For movies one view could be very visually appealing, with large cover art and some movie info. This same view could perhaps have the alphabet listed along the side in small letters to make jumps to particular letters of the movie collection. Then a second movie view that would allow fast scrolling through a large collection, ie similar to what you have now smaller images and lots of items on the page. You could maybe switch views by rotating the phone. Vertical for list and horizontal for large images with info
I'm trying to stick to the apple way of doing things and not overloading the users with a bunch of options for each screen and trying to strike a balance to suit most cases.
Though I have been thinking about this (cause it would be handy) and may look at supporting different views using the multi touch gestures. So using the pinch gesutre to zoom in/out would change the view.
All depends on how usable it is as it would probably have to regenerate the table which may get in the way.
Maybe something to look at for a subsequent release.
As a skinner, I would also like to know what the chances are of the interface being at least minimally skinnable? ie. color scheme/background images, nothing fancy. Just some thoughts. Great work so far!
Again with the 'apple way' it generally dosen't include skinning as an option.
Though a great place for skins would most likely be the 'Remote' part (when you turn it upside down).
Also possibly the 'Now Playing' screen.
Again , probably look at this for release 2.
Thanks for the input.
Cheers,
Dave.
I love the idea, but I would like the ability to control multiple xbmcs. I have 3 xboxes and two PCs running xbmc. I have to change the IP address everytime I want to control a different machine. If you could add all of your xbmc ip address in the settings, then when you start the app you are at a screen with a list of you xbmcs. If you only have one ip address defined then the app could work as it does now.
Thanks for a great app.
Rand Al Thor
2008-08-20, 17:31
That is a nice idea. I'd like to second that one ;)
I love the idea, but I would like the ability to control multiple xbmcs. I have 3 xboxes and two PCs running xbmc. I have to change the IP address everytime I want to control a different machine. If you could add all of your xbmc ip address in the settings, then when you start the app you are at a screen with a list of you xbmcs. If you only have one ip address defined then the app could work as it does now.
Thanks for a great app.
Already supported :)
Switching between xbox's just involves two clicks. One to the settings tab, then one on the host you want to use.
I had also played around with a feature to make all the hosts play the same song. But this has a load of caveats and won't be able to be supported properly without some extra changes to xbmc. Still didn't work too bad, if slightly out of sync.
Rand Al Thor
2008-08-21, 06:01
Already supported :)
Switching between xbox's just involves two clicks. One to the settings tab, then one on the host you want to use.
I had also played around with a feature to make all the hosts play the same song. But this has a load of caveats and won't be able to be supported properly without some extra changes to xbmc. Still didn't work too bad, if slightly out of sync.
Very nice ;)
Already supported :)
Switching between xbox's just involves two clicks. One to the settings tab, then one on the host you want to use.
I had also played around with a feature to make all the hosts play the same song. But this has a load of caveats and won't be able to be supported properly without some extra changes to xbmc. Still didn't work too bad, if slightly out of sync.
Cool, I must have missed that.:eek:
pantherman007
2008-08-21, 20:02
This is sounding better and better. :grin:
I'm curious what options Apple/iTunes gives developers for alpha & beta testing? Do you give Apple a list of people that you approve as testers and only they can see in iTunes initially?
Whatever it is, I'm volunteering to help test if and when you need it.
Right now you can only use the app if you have a jailbroken iPhone/touch.
This isn't available for download yet is it? I have a jailbroken 3g iphone and reading this thread is like torture! :laugh:
This app looks great, thanks so much for doing it!
This isn't available for download yet is it? I have a jailbroken 3g iphone and reading this thread is like torture! :laugh:
This app looks great, thanks so much for doing it!
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Is this repo for the IPhone remote app that Narcan is describing in this thread? I see one called XBMC control. I got it installed but I cannot get it to see my music or anything at all for that matter. Do I need to change a setting on my XBMC to get this to work?
Right now you can only use the app if you have a jailbroken iPhone/touch.
Think there is a little confusion.
I've been referring to the XBMC Remote app that I am developing, not the existing one.
The difference being that it is being written with the official SDK and will be released on the app store.
This is sounding better and better.
I'm curious what options Apple/iTunes gives developers for alpha & beta testing? Do you give Apple a list of people that you approve as testers and only they can see in iTunes initially?
Whatever it is, I'm volunteering to help test if and when you need it.
I appreciate the offer but as far as I know with the $100 license you pretty only much get the ability to support one developer, which sucks. Though I haven't added it to iTunes connect yet, so maybe there is possibility there, I'll let you know if I find anything more.
Though I've been trying to get as much test coverage as possible
My current test environment is -
- XBOX - older version of XBMC , about a year old.
- XBMC Mac - Atlantis Beta 3
- XBMC Linux - Latest SVN
Still yet to setup a windows machine..
Cheers,
Dave.
Sounds awesome. Can"t wait for it to be unleashed to the app store !
Don't forget to add a "donate" link ;)
Rand Al Thor
2008-08-24, 00:44
@narcan
Can we get a few more screenshots to keep us satiated. Perhaps a look at the upside down remote? This project is just awesome and I can't stop checking this thread. ;)
http://www.teehanlax.com/blog/?p=447
Open source iphone gfx
@narcan
Can we get a few more screenshots to keep us satiated. Perhaps a look at the upside down remote? This project is just awesome and I can't stop checking this thread. ;)
http://dave.fumberger.com/?p=24
Hope that helps !
:shocked: You are kidding. That is truly awesome.
Rand Al Thor
2008-08-25, 18:24
WOW! That is absolutely amazing! Great work man. The only thing I can suggest would be thumb caching if possible to cut down on thumbnail load time. Great work.
The only issue with the video is that you keep calling it "Xbox" Media Center.
It is no longer that. It is just "XBMC Media Center".
Otherwise, looks awesome!
Gamester17
2008-08-25, 20:37
VERY COOL! ...now I have to save money to get myself an iPhone or iPod Touch
:;):
WOW! That is absolutely amazing! Great work man. The only thing I can suggest would be thumb caching if possible to cut down on thumbnail load time. Great work.
Cool, glad you like it!
Yeah, though the load time is actually a bit deceiving. There is a intentionally introduced delay at the moment of around 500ms. This is just to give the ipod touch some breathing space though I should be able to change this to a lower value. Without a pause I found that it could make the UI less responsive when it was pulling down large images (even though it's doing that in a separate thread).
But yeah, if I was implemented caching I could cache the smaller files and could show them instantly next time.
Though I'll probably look at this in a subsequent release (but that won't be too far away), just because I want to try and focus on getting a release out now.
The only issue with the video is that you keep calling it "Xbox" Media Center.
It is no longer that. It is just "XBMC Media Center".
Otherwise, looks awesome!
Haha I know sorry about that, it's just out of habit.. I realized this after I finished and couldn't be bothered redoing it :)
Anyway, thanks for the comments everyone. I'll try and submit it to the app store today so hopefully all goes well and it gets put up. Don't know how long this will take though.. the whole app process is a real pain in the ass, especially with the code signing.
That's great news narcan. :nod: I'll search the app store every 3 minutes. This is the most excited about something for XBMC since I saw Aeon. Please make sure and add a donation link somewhere.
ultrabrutal
2008-08-26, 09:08
Regarding the cache.. Does the API support some sort of getCRCforThumb which you can compare to the cached files in the flash of the iPod/iPhone?
I'm thinking if the thumbs in XBMC changes, new copies should be fetched. It's not enough to just compare filesize or dates I guess.
I've ordered an iPod Touch just for this application. Tnx a bunch!
Gamester17
2008-08-26, 18:24
WOW! That is absolutely amazing! Great work man. The only thing I can suggest would be thumb caching if possible to cut down on thumbnail load time. Great work.Yeah, though the load time is actually a bit deceiving. There is a intentionally introduced delay at the moment of around 500ms. This is just to give the ipod touch some breathing space though I should be able to change this to a lower value. Without a pause I found that it could make the UI less responsive when it was pulling down large images (even though it's doing that in a separate thread).Maybe you could submit a new feature request ticket to trac (http://xbmc.org/trac) and ask support for the XBMC 'backend' (WebServer) for an optional downscaling of the thumbnail before passing them along to the iPhone, ...maybe it could be added though a parameter with a setting in the API to set the maximum of pixels that your client want to receive.
Just an idea :grin:
Do I detect an Aussie accent in the video?
Looks fantastic.
Gamester17's suggestion is a very good one. With the work you have done already I'm sure there will be enough momentum to add those features to the API.
Gamester17
2008-08-27, 19:50
@narcan, maybe you should team up with s4v4g3 if you are willing to open source your app?
http://xbmc.org/forum/showthread.php?t=31157
???
@ultrabrutal
No not currently. Thumbs are hashed off the path and/or file. I think there would just have to be an option in the settings to clear the cache if you happen to change the thumbs.
@Gamester:
Yeah good idea. The downscaling is something I had been thinking of as it could potentially send some pretty large images down.
I'll submit a ticket.
Regarding open source I've made the decision not to open source it at this point. I was torn as to which way to go, but have chosen to provide it on the app store for a small amount ($3 - $4). I'd like to try and recoup part of the development costs (developer program etc)
but what I will be doing is donating at least 10% back to XBMC. Hope this sounds fair but I'm also open to other ideas.
@michal
Yep, from Melbourne, Australia!
Anyway, thanks again all for the comments and suggestions. I've submitted the app to the store, so it's just a waiting game now I guess. Once this initial release is out I'll then focus on these other feature suggestions.
ultrabrutal
2008-08-28, 23:03
How long before Apple signs the application so it can be bought?
Will updates cost more or are they included in the $3-4 you want?
What's next? The cache? New icons which was linked in an ealier post?
How long before Apple signs the application so it can be bought?
Will updates cost more or are they included in the $3-4 you want?
What's next? The cache? New icons which was linked in an ealier post?
No idea how long :( It was submitted on the 26th.
I won't be charging for upgrades.
Those screen shots are pretty out of date now, I've got new icons in place.
As far as changes, here's a short term roadmap:
1.1
1. Fix reported bugs
2. Caching / Optimizations
1.2
1. Zooming in / out of views
2. Search view
3. Some more media views
1.3
1. Coverflow
Gamester17
2008-08-29, 12:05
Regarding open source I've made the decision not to open source it at this point. I was torn as to which way to go, but have chosen to provide it on the app store for a small amount ($3 - $4).Too bad :sad: ...you of course know that you could open source it and still sell it on Apple iPhone App Store? ???
http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/selling.htmlMany people believe that the spirit of the GNU project is that you should not charge money for distributing copies of software, or that you should charge as little as possible — just enough to cover the cost.
Actually we encourage people who redistribute free software to charge as much as they wish or can. If this seems surprising to you, please read on.
The word “free” has two legitimate general meanings; it can refer either to freedom or to price. When we speak of “free software”, we're talking about freedom, not price. (Think of “free speech”, not “free beer”.) Specifically, it means that a user is free to run the program, change the program, and redistribute the program with or without changes.
Free programs are sometimes distributed gratis, and sometimes for a substantial price. Often the same program is available in both ways from different places. The program is free regardless of the price, because users have freedom in using it.
Non-free programs are usually sold for a high price, but sometimes a store will give you a copy at no charge. That doesn't make it free software, though. Price or no price, the program is non-free because users don't have freedom.
Since free software is not a matter of price, a low price isn't more free, or closer to free. So if you are redistributing copies of free software, you might as well charge a substantial fee and make some money. Redistributing free software is a good and legitimate activity; if you do it, you might as well make a profit from it.
Free software is a community project, and everyone who depends on it ought to look for ways to contribute to building the community. For a distributor, the way to do this is to give a part of the profit to the Free Software Foundation or some other free software development project. By funding development, you can advance the world of free software.
Distributing free software is an opportunity to raise funds for development. Don't waste it!
In order to contribute funds, you need to have some extra. If you charge too low a fee, you won't have anything to spare to support development.
Rand Al Thor
2008-08-29, 17:59
No idea how long :( It was submitted on the 26th.
I won't be charging for upgrades.
Those screen shots are pretty out of date now, I've got new icons in place.
As far as changes, here's a short term roadmap:
1.1
1. Fix reported bugs
2. Caching / Optimizations
1.2
1. Zooming in / out of views
2. Search view
3. Some more media views
1.3
1. Coverflow
This is all wonderful news! Thanks again for all of your hard work and effort. How about some more screenshots until we can actually get our hands on the app? Lastly, I would once again like to ask for at least some skinability in a future release. Cheers.
This is definitely an impressive-looking app, and I look forward to using it, even though I do plan to continue in the development of my open-source version.
Rand Al Thor
2008-09-02, 19:45
@narcan
Have you had a look at the MyMote app on the itunes store? it is a free mythtv remote. once the integrated pvr/epg is into xbmc this might a great addition. Check it out and let me know what you think.
Edit:
http://www.ehomeupgrade.com/2008/07/23/mymote-iphone-app-for-mythtv-control-released/
this gives a video of how mymote works, it also has a video for mythtv for iphone. It would be great to see the functionality of all these programs brought to xbmc. For example once the pvr/epg integration is done, have the ability to scedule recording, browse shows, upcoming schedule etc. Also, have an option in xbmc's epg to convert to iphone/ipod friendly formats of certain shows after recording for watching later through the xbmc remote. I might post something in the epg thread and see what the dev thinks of the idea. All this would functionality would be great in addition to the wonderful stuff you have already done. Cheers.
Digg it: http://digg.com/apple/iPhone_Remote_for_XBMC_Media_Center_video
msaspence
2008-09-03, 11:42
very very cool btw
any chance of a plex branded version?
i have been playing with the iphone sdk and would be happy to help
pantherman007
2008-09-03, 18:15
No idea how long :( It was submitted on the 26th.
For God's sake, Apple, how long does it take to review and approve an application?
very very cool btw
any chance of a plex branded version?
i have been playing with the iphone sdk and would be happy to help
My guess is that this runs through the http api. Should be available on Plex too since they're the same product. Probably a matter of entering your Plex IP/port to get it working. Or did you mean you wanted the XBMC logos replaced by Plex logos?
@narcan
Have you had a look at the MyMote app on the itunes store? it is a free mythtv remote. once the integrated pvr/epg is into xbmc this might a great addition. Check it out and let me know what you think.
.
Certainly once XBMC implements the PVR guide feature this would be something I'd want to implement.
For God's sake, Apple, how long does it take to review and approve an application?
Too long. I'm still waiting.
msaspence
2008-09-04, 12:18
My guess is that this runs through the http api. Should be available on Plex too since they're the same product. Probably a matter of entering your Plex IP/port to get it working. Or did you mean you wanted the XBMC logos replaced by Plex logos?
yeah i meant replacing the logos
msaspence
2008-09-04, 12:21
and potentially the icon
maybe this could be done automatically by the app
ie check if its connecting to plex or xbmc and displaying the appropriate logo
don't think this would be possible with the icon though
wow. and i was being so sarcastic. maybe if it just said "powered by xbmc" then we don't have to worry about the branding since they're both powered by xbmc.
msaspence
2008-09-04, 22:45
I know it's anal
I am something of a pefectionist
But like I said I'm happy to do the leg work on this...
ultrabrutal
2008-09-05, 09:13
msaspence, why not just use XBMC for Mac instead and support the real devs
msaspence
2008-09-05, 09:34
msaspence, why not just use XBMC for Mac instead and support the real devs
ok im new to the community, is that friendly banter or was there some bitterness in the fork?
the reason i am going for plex over xbmc is because i read (and correct me if i am wrong) that plex would concentrate more on integrating with os x and i really want to see support for iphoto librarys and eyetv
sorry for going off topic
not sure if the other user was being friendly or not, but there was a bit of bitterness.
i wouldn't say you're statement is false. while plex is concentrating solely on os x, team xbmc is also developing for the mac of course (XBMC for Mac). patches are generally shared between the two projects which makes plex largely xbmc with a new icon (hence my previous comment about replacing the logos in order to make this app plexworthy).
if you'd like to learn more, i'm sure there are threads on this topic in both the xbmc and plex forums.
if you see a feature in plex that isn't yet available in xbmc, submit a feature request at xbmc.org/trac. even if there's an os x only feature that's not yet available in plex you can submit a feature request to us at xbmc.org/trac.
ultrabrutal
2008-09-05, 13:42
msaspence, I don't really see the reason for Plex nor Boxee. I would like development done to the XBMC core and the rest of the features could be just a matter of skinning.
That would benefit the most users on all platforms.
Ofcourse development should be Media Center sentric.
Hail XBMC. Death to posers ;)
@narcan
What is the name of the App once it is approved on the iTunes store?
Can't wait to give it a try!
@narcan
Any updates? Apple seriously takes their sweet time approving these apps. Also, it seems that your blog has gone down.
ultrabrutal
2008-09-09, 16:31
My iPod arrives tomorrow so I'm eager to test this also :)
Sorry on being a bit quiet, currently on holidays in the middle of Australia, so internet access is sometimes hard to come across :)
It's nearly ready...
They've approved the app, though it's sitting at the state of 'Pending Contracts' , no idea how long this takes. Hopefully not too much longer.
(The blog should be back up, had a power outage where it's hosted)
ewequeone
2008-09-10, 15:10
awesome news! hope you're enjoying your holiday .. can I ask where you're holidaying?
cheers,
jason.
Its available now
http://shorl.com/dyvefredradrupy (iTunes link)
Price: $4.99
Description:
XBMC Remote allows complete control of XBMC - the most advanced media center software available. With XBMC installed on either your XBOX, Windows, Mac, or Linux machine you can play songs, movies, TV shows directly from your iPhone or iPod Touch. The XBMC Remote can connect over WiFi or a 3G Network so you can control your XBMC from anywhere in the house - or even anywhere in the world. FEATURES - Play, queue and shuffle the media on XBMC - See cover art for albums, TV Shows and movies. - View artist and album reviews and information - 'Standard' remote mode. Control XBMC with standard remote buttons * Requires XBMC available from http://www.xbmc.org
Its available now
http://shorl.com/dyvefredradrupy (iTunes link)
Wow , you found it before me ! I'd been checking but didn't see it. Maybe something to do with me going through the Australian iTunes store. How did you come across it ?
How did you come across it ?
http://feeds.feedburner.com/RecentlyAddedIphoneApplications-PinchMedia
msaspence
2008-09-12, 12:57
although the link worked and i am syncing my iphone now it did not show up in search results for xbmc or remote or both in the uk store
ewequeone
2008-09-12, 13:33
awesome app man .. just tried it out a bit, will post some thoughts a bit later :)
msaspence
2008-09-12, 13:52
first off this is awesome great work
secondly some constructive criticism
Bugs:
- crashes alot when trying to enter an ip (seems to do better when enter 3 numbers then done then 3 numbers then done etc etc)
- movie thumbnails seems to load default thumb rather than the one i have chosen in my library although does in now playing
- tv show thumbnails not loading in list but are in now playing)
- magnifying glass on path field in settings doesnt drag
Opinions
- track list flip should be disabled if there are no tracks ie a movie or tv show
- ild rather rotation was instant than having to wait for an animation (but great feature)
- ild like to see images in now playing maintain aspect ratio and have black space where necessary
msaspence
2008-09-12, 13:59
more feature requests
- holding next key fastforwards
- when playing videos pressing next key jumps forward big and holding jumps forward little
msaspence
2008-09-12, 14:24
and another bug
im not sure if it is crashing because the wifi was lost
or it is dropping the wifi because it crashed
but a couple of times its crashed and when ive got into setting the wifi has been dropped
ultrabrutal
2008-09-12, 18:16
Hmmm It's not available in Denmark either. What to do?
Also I purchased the 2.1 update after I installed 1.1.5 but it doesn't download. Anyone had problems with this?
ultrabrutal
2008-09-12, 18:20
Got the 2.1 update going. Now I just need the application I bought this damn device for hehe
matt_cyr
2008-09-12, 19:21
Currently, the apps url is
http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewSoftware?id=289316916&mt=8
Not sure why you can't find it in a search..says it was released sept. 9th..
matt_cyr
2008-09-12, 19:24
Edit:
Actually, i just found it on page 3 of the Entertainment Category. I swear it wasn't there half an hour ago..weird
ultrabrutal
2008-09-12, 19:26
Top nice! Thanks. Hereby bought... Updating to 2.1 firmware now and then play time ;)
pantherman007
2008-09-12, 20:18
Got it, and it looks nice so far. I'm ready to start playing, but hurricane Ike is coming my direction and I may be w/o power soon (and for a while). Initial experimentation shows:
Issue #1 - TV show seasons don't display in chronological order if there are season numbers with two digits. When browsing South Park I see:
All Episodes
Season 1
Season 10
Season 2
Season 3
...
Browsing the same show using the build in XBMC web server shows Season 01, Season 02, etc. and as such they're in the right order.
Issue #2 - After changing the path to point to my userdata folder, I see thumbnails for music albums and TV shows, but not movies. The XBMC instance its pointing to does show movie thumbnails via PMIII. It does this when pointing to both a traditional Xbox install and a Windows XP Atlantis install.
And a question. The TV show wide icons look *great* in this remote. But I have things setup to use Poster icons for Aeon. Is there a way I can setup things so that the same TV show will push one image through the web server to the iPhone, but a use a different image for the local skin? I suspect this is a XBMC database and/or web server change and not something local to this app but want to be sure.
and another bug
im not sure if it is crashing because the wifi was lost
or it is dropping the wifi because it crashed
but a couple of times its crashed and when ive got into setting the wifi has been dropped
Hmm, concerned about the crashing.
Was there any particular screen that this was happening on ? (Now Playing, Listing, Remote View etc)
I had tested the WiFi being down but could not get it to crash.. Though I'm currently testing on 2.01. Need to upgrade to 2.1.
I'll retest this when I get back from holidays in a couple of days and try to replicate and hopefully sort out the issues.
Anyway, cheers for the initial feedback. Will be looking to do another release with a few new features / fixes late next week (though all depends on how long apple take to OK updates).
ewequeone
2008-09-13, 03:41
couple of things:
1. can you add some sort of graphic so you know which tv shows / movies you have watched / not watched?
2. a function to resume a video from where you last stopped it
3. when my screensaver loads (I just use "black" and its set to 3 minutes) and I try to use the xbmc remote on the ipod touch, it doesn't turn the screensaver off, I still have to use my old xbox controller.
apart from that, as I said before, awesome app :)
Can you give an example of how you would write the path, so that the cover art is shown?
Can you give an example of how you would write the path, so that the cover art is shown?
I'm also wondering this - I have no cover art but am unsure what format and info the path setting is requiring.
ewequeone
2008-09-13, 09:55
I did E:\Apps\XBMC\UserData and it worked
There are problems with showing non-english characters. On the image you can see what happened to artist name: "Czesław śpiewa". I cannot open this folder either. It should be fixed - iphone OS (fonts etc.) supports Polish language officially. Anyway: It is much better than I thought it would be, it is still first released version... Narcan - good job, please go on and make it better. If you fix international characters problem I will buy you a barrel of beer when you come to Poland;)
http://www.bizuteria.cc.pl/photo.jpg
ultrabrutal
2008-09-13, 12:32
Wow the wifi on an iPod is really bad. About a third of the range of my notebook. Ofcourse it has a larger antenna inside but this really makes the iPod useless for me :(
There is no coverage in my living room. I can only use it to control the Xbox in my bedroom
msaspence
2008-09-13, 16:17
other bug:
- could we have season 0 say specials?
sorry for poking lots of holes, i dont want it to seem like im being massively critical this really is a great app esp. for a first release
msaspence
2008-09-13, 16:32
- and the back button takes me back to the home menu rather that back
ultrabrutal
2008-09-13, 17:44
Built my own parabolic antenna for my wifi, now I have better coverage it seems hehe
I have the font issue with Danish letters also.
msaspence
2008-09-13, 17:54
re crashing
there was no in-particular screen that made it crash
was using an adhoc wireless network at work
havent been able to replicate on a normal wireless network
First post for me, hello all.
I'm having a much more fundamental problem with my copy of this app.
For some reason, 90% of the buttons/commands don't work at all. If I use either the 'music sources' or 'video sources' buttons, I can browse through and play my files (stored on a NAS attached to the network) as normal, and I can also play/pause and manipulate volume at the now playing screen.
None of the rest of the buttons work at all however, including any of the turn upside-down 'standard' remote commands except shutdown/restart machine.
I haven't done much investigation but have tested XBMCs response to HTTP requests through a web browser, and they seem to be working fine. For example, if I issue http://192.168.1.3:808/xbmcCmds/xbmcHttp?command=SendKey¶meter=270, the command for button UP and a button which doesn't work on the iPhone app, XBMC responds as expected.
Since no-one else is having this problem I'm confident it's a problem with my copy of XBMC, possibly a versioning issue. I have version 2.0.1 Nov 12 2006 installed on an xbox.
I was wondering if anyone had any ideas about what could be wrong here? I've tried all the usual suspects: restart everything, reinstall the app, different usernames/passwords/port numbers. Help greatly appreciated.
Oh, and good work on the app! Can't wait to get cracking with it.
matt_cyr
2008-09-15, 00:29
Yeah, you're probably going to want to upgrade that thing...
google t3ch...
other bug:
- could we have season 0 say specials?
sorry for poking lots of holes, i dont want it to seem like im being massively critical this really is a great app esp. for a first release
Sounds reasonable , assuming that's the expected convention ? I've never had Season 0 pop up, which is why I over looked it.
Nah, go ahead and poke holes ! :) Everything constructive is appreciated.
couple of things:
1. can you add some sort of graphic so you know which tv shows / movies you have watched / not watched?
2. a function to resume a video from where you last stopped it
3. when my screensaver loads (I just use "black" and its set to 3 minutes) and I try to use the xbmc remote on the ipod touch, it doesn't turn the screensaver off, I still have to use my old xbox control
1. Yep
2. Don't think I can currently do this just by making changes to the remote. Might have to get this feature added into the HTTP API on XBMC.
3. Hmm. Will disappear if you play some media, but yeah doesn't look like XBMC is responding to the key commands. There may be something I can do here I'll see what I can find.
There are problems with showing non-english characters.
I'll look into it, hadn't tested this for the V1.0 release but will make it a priority.
I'm having a much more fundamental problem with my copy of this app.
For some reason, 90% of the buttons/commands don't work at all. If I use either the 'music sources' or 'video sources' buttons, I can browse through and play my files (stored on a NAS attached to the network) as normal, and I can also play/pause and manipulate volume at the now playing screen.
As matt_cyr points out, please upgrade. I've tried to make sure the basics worked on older versions but it's hard to guarantee everything especially when there is so much development happening on XBMC, 2006 is pretty old !
Upgrading should sort your problem, plus it's always nice to upgrade to the latest and greatest XBMC :)
ewequeone
2008-09-15, 05:45
thanks for the response :) loving the app more and more as I use it. keep up the good work and I'm looking forward to the updates :)
cheers,
jason.
1. Yep
2. Don't think I can currently do this just by making changes to the remote. Might have to get this feature added into the HTTP API on XBMC.
3. Hmm. Will disappear if you play some media, but yeah doesn't look like XBMC is responding to the key commands. There may be something I can do here I'll see what I can find.
Rand Al Thor
2008-09-15, 07:33
@narcan
you made gizmodo http://gizmodo.com/5049569/xbmc-remote-control-app-store-application-arrives-for-windows-mac-and-linux
Should get a lot of new people using your app and xbmc. Cheers.
Yeah, you're probably going to want to upgrade that thing...
google t3ch...
As matt_cyr points out, please upgrade. I've tried to make sure the basics worked on older versions but it's hard to guarantee everything especially when there is so much development happening on XBMC, 2006 is pretty old !
Upgrading should sort your problem, plus it's always nice to upgrade to the latest and greatest XBMC
Thanks guys, I upgraded to brand-spanking new build last night and it's all working now.
Gamester17
2008-09-15, 15:40
http://digg.com/apple/XBMC_Remote_Control_iPhone_Application
http://arstechnica.com/journals/apple.ars/2007/07/30/iphone-an-XBMC-remote-that-makes-phone-calls-too
Does the price for the app include free upgrades to new version with bug-fixes, optimizations, etc.? ???
ultrabrutal
2008-09-15, 15:44
Does the price for the app include free upgrades to new version with bug-fixes, optimizations, etc.? ???
Already asked and answered ;) Yes it does
I've now started using this app. I've set it up correctly in settings. But I don't see anything in any view. Could it be because I'm not using the xbmc library? I always use file view - I find it more convenient. Or is there another reason that movies/tv shows/music are not displaying? I'm using the latest xbmc t3ch.
ultrabrutal
2008-09-16, 09:40
Yes you need the library because data is returned from the database. Scan your items into the library. I think anyone who doesn't use the library are missing out on something really great
msaspence
2008-09-16, 10:12
Another bug:
rearranging the tab items is not keep if you close app
Yes you need the library because data is returned from the database. Scan your items into the library. I think anyone who doesn't use the library are missing out on something really great
library is too much work. I've got 1000s of foreign movies. And only a few can be found by the build in scrapers. I don't want to create .nfo files manually for every movie. That's the reason that I'm using file mode.
But I would be willing to go to library mode if it would be easy. Any suggestions? ???
When I bought this app it didnt say anything about that it will only work with library... I sure hope that file view will be supported in the upcoming version.:nod:
When I bought this app it didnt say anything about that it will only work with library... I sure hope that file view will be supported in the upcoming version.:nod:
You can view your sources in file mode. Just click on the 'More' tab bar button in the bottom right and you'll see both video and audio sources.
You can also replace the defaults ('TV Shows', 'Movies', etc) with these sources if you click 'Edit' on the top right and then drag and drop the icons onto the tab bar.
Gamester17
2008-09-16, 16:51
Another video demoing the app:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywM9plIlqo4
You can view your sources in file mode. Just click on the 'More' tab bar button in the bottom right and you'll see both video and audio sources.
Why not show them directly when I click on TV Shows / Movies / Albums? Why this extra step? I dont get it.
You can also replace the defaults ('TV Shows', 'Movies', etc) with these sources if you click 'Edit' on the top right and then drag and drop the icons onto the tab bar.
Great idea. Except 1) the text "Video sources" and "Music sources" are too long. They overlap and go beyond the screen when dragging them onto the tab bar. 2) When I restart the application the default tab bar appears. I have to drag them over and over every time. Maby a bug?
Why not do a new option in Settings that lets the user choose between file view and library view. That's the way all skins do it. I really hope that this will change in the upcoming version.
Why not show them directly when I click on TV Shows / Movies / Albums? Why this extra step? I dont get it.
Great idea. Except 1) the text "Video sources" and "Music sources" are too long. They overlap and go beyond the screen when dragging them onto the tab bar. 2) When I restart the application the default tab bar appears. I have to drag them over and over every time. Maby a bug?
Why not do a new option in Settings that lets the user choose between file view and library view. That's the way all skins do it. I really hope that this will change in the upcoming version.
I'm sure narcan (http://xbmc.org/forum/member.php?u=29109), who is the developer of this program, will be better able to answer your questions.
GrandAnse
2008-09-17, 17:42
Another video demoing the app:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywM9plIlqo4
Made some changes to the video yesterday. This is a better one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJJSvdM6iwA
I'm sure narcan (http://xbmc.org/forum/member.php?u=29109), who is the developer of this program, will be better able to answer your questions.
I quoted you, but my questions were actually for narcan. Hopfully he will answer them soon :)
I was curious if anyone else is having a problem connecting the iphone to XBMC. I am currently running the atlantis beta 1 with Mediastream, but i've tried it with all the skins thinking it might be a skin bug, but still got no connection. I have put the ip listed in xbmc in the iphone. There is no password and the port was left at 80. I still get the same message everytime that it failed to connect to xbmc. If anyone has had this problem and been able to fix it, I would appreciate some guidance. Thanks
Gamester17
2008-09-18, 21:53
Need more information, ...like have you enabled the web server in XBMC under settings? When you do so the first time Windows's built-in firewall should pop-up a message asking if you like to keep blocking it or unblock it, you need to unblock it.
You can then test it with Internet Explorer on the same machine by trying to access http://localhost/
I did enable the web server. I also left the port at 80 and the password blank. I just tested the http://localhost/ and xbmc showed up in the browser yet I get no connection on the iphone.
Gamester17
2008-09-18, 22:33
Must be a firewall then if it works locally, check Windows's built-in firewall lists of what it is blocking.
Do you have another computer on the same network?, if so then you can confirm with it by typing in http://XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX/ in web browser (where "XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX" is the IP-address of the compouter that has XBMC installed).
TrocaNiklas
2008-09-18, 22:42
i have another problem iam also running windows atlantis beta 1 with media stream skin. i can connect play music and videos. My problem is when a movie or tv series is RARed it wont play. and sens 99% of my videos are rared this is a big problem for me. nothing is happening on the screen of xbmc and the iphone remote software gives me a blackbox with paus and play.
I tried the ip of the computer with xbmc on it from another pc on the network and it returned nothing at all. It gave the canot display website page. That's a bit strange since I can access the router config through the laptop, but not the pc with xbmc. Maybe it has to do with my router settings. I will check up all of those settings and also the windows firewall. Thanks for your help. We'll see how it turns out.
i have another problem iam also running windows atlantis beta 1 with media stream skin. i can connect play music and videos. My problem is when a movie or tv series is RARed it wont play. and sens 99% of my videos are rared this is a big problem for me. nothing is happening on the screen of xbmc and the iphone remote software gives me a blackbox with paus and play.
RARed movie access is a known issue, it might be addressed in the next XBMC release or the next XBMC Remote release. I'm not sure about the technicalities behind the issue but I know that there is one.
just and update to my previous post. I have absolutely no idea what it could be now. I have web server enabled in xbmc. Everything as far as the setup details is in line and all correct. Double, triple, and quadruple checked them. My firewall has xbmc set as an exception and my router is setup to allow the iphone access through the router. At this point i am stumped. Anyone have advice or a simliar situation(with a solution). Thanks
just and update to my previous post. I have absolutely no idea what it could be now. I have web server enabled in xbmc. Everything as far as the setup details is in line and all correct. Double, triple, and quadruple checked them. My firewall has xbmc set as an exception and my router is setup to allow the iphone access through the router. At this point i am stumped. Anyone have advice or a simliar situation(with a solution). Thanks
A good troubleshooting method might be to completely disable your firewalls and start enabling then one by one and see at which step, packets start getting dropped.
Gamester17
2008-09-19, 22:34
just and update to my previous post. I have absolutely no idea what it could be now. I have web server enabled in xbmc. Everything as far as the setup details is in line and all correct. Double, triple, and quadruple checked them. My firewall has xbmc set as an exception and my router is setup to allow the iphone access through the router. At this point i am stumped. Anyone have advice or a simliar situation(with a solution). ThanksDo you have any other third-party software like; anti-virus, firewall, spybot, etc?
There are many software applications these days that come with firewalls :sniffle:
All I can definitely say is that XBMC is not the problem as http://localhost/ works.
Is there anyway to launch XBMC from the remote app?
Gamester17
2008-09-22, 00:21
Is there anyway to launch XBMC from the remote app?No, it accesses XBMC though its built-in web server so XBMC has to be running for the web server to be running. To archive what you want a 'helper' service/daemon would have to be created and installed by the user to run in the background and listen (on for example a UDP port) for a new command to launch XBMC. I other words, that would be a feature request.
TrocaNiklas
2008-09-22, 02:10
RARed movie access is a known issue, it might be addressed in the next XBMC release or the next XBMC Remote release. I'm not sure about the technicalities behind the issue but I know that there is one.
Thanks for the reply i will just wait for a update for the remote app on appstore :)
RARed movie access is a known issue, it might be addressed in the next XBMC release or the next XBMC Remote release. I'm not sure about the technicalities behind the issue but I know that there is one.
For the moment I've gone ahead and implemented a work around.
It can now play rar files, but the workaround will cause all files in the rar to be queued. This also means that it won't show the contents of the rar when selected , rather just start playing it immediately.
I think for the majority of the cases this wouldn't be a huge problem, in the case of movies anyway. For music that is say an album in a rar this might be a little bit of a pain though it just means it will queue the whole album.
Anyway, when the time comes that the issue is addressed in XBMC I can release an update.
On a side note, sorry I've been a bit quiet of late in answering questions /issues. I've had the flu for the last week so been resting up in bed.. over it all now so am good to continue cracking on the next release.
Is there anyway to launch XBMC from the remote app?
As Gamster17 points out it's a bit of a chicken and egg problem as the XBMC Remote relies on XBMC being loaded to be able to execute commands.
Though I will be implementing hooks in the remote to allow integration with other iphone apps. So maybe if some general purpose program executor was developed for the iphone then potentially it could be setup to tell the remote machine to launch XBMC and then launch the XBMC Remote. Then whether of not something like this would be available for the platform(s) your running though is another issue again..
Why not show them directly when I click on TV Shows / Movies / Albums? Why this extra step? I dont get it.
Great idea. Except 1) the text "Video sources" and "Music sources" are too long. They overlap and go beyond the screen when dragging them onto the tab bar. 2) When I restart the application the default tab bar appears. I have to drag them over and over every time. Maby a bug?
Why not do a new option in Settings that lets the user choose between file view and library view. That's the way all skins do it. I really hope that this will change in the upcoming version.
The tab bar issue of not retaining the settings is a bug and will be addressed in the next release. So once this is fixed I'd think that this should be a non issue for you as you can set it up how you like.
The segregation of the library / sources has been a bit of a issue with people, as I guess it's not immediately apparent as to what it's looking at when your not familiar with the concept.
The main design was to drive everything from the library, in a similar way to how the itunes and apple remote functionality work. It gives more flexibility on how it can be broken out (for example TV Shows , Movies instead of just 'Video').
In most places it wouldn't make much sense / be complicated to try and combine the library data with the sources data.
For instance, if you clicked on 'Movies' what would you expect to see ? All items under video sources ? If not, how would one know what items are movies without having already scanned to the library ?
So whether it was combined by default or there was a preference I don't think it's logical to try and combine together.
I could only see this working if the interface was redesigned and the tabs were reduced to 'Videos' and 'Music' and then the lists would either show 'Movies', 'TV Shows' or the list of video sources depending on what the setting was in the preferences (library /sources). I think this setup ultimately makes for more clicks / navigation, which is why I didn't go with it.
Personally I use the libraries for all my media, except for plugins (say youtube, mythtv) which I then use video sources.
Hope that makes some sense... though I'm still open to suggestions.
Maybe one useful feature would be to acutally add custom video and music sources folders to the tab bar. So instead of 'TV Shows' accessing the library you could have it show the folder 'TV Shows' from your video sources.
I was curious if anyone else is having a problem connecting the iphone to XBMC. I am currently running the atlantis beta 1 with Mediastream, but i've tried it with all the skins thinking it might be a skin bug, but still got no connection. I have put the ip listed in xbmc in the iphone. There is no password and the port was left at 80. I still get the same message everytime that it failed to connect to xbmc. If anyone has had this problem and been able to fix it, I would appreciate some guidance. Thanks
Is this under Vista ? I know some users were having issues with using port 80 under Vista . This was fixed by changing the port to say 8080, suspect that it's probably all ports < 1024 that cause an issue.
Also take a look here http://remote.collect3.com.au/troubleshooting/ and see if it's any help.
jkrellner
2008-09-23, 02:15
I am new to the XBMC Remote for the iPod/iPhone and first off, let me say... it ROCKS. It is easy to use, responsive and generally flawless. I love it because it enables me to play music, start Last.fm radio, or whatever, without even turning on my TV. Which, as I mentioned before, ROCKS! I look forward to future updates making it even better. I submitted a review to the App Store.
That said, the only thing I cannot figure out is what path to put in so that I can see my movie art... I tried E:\Apps\XBMC\UserData and got nothing. I also tried Q:\UserData. Is there a way I can figure out where this stuff is from within XBMC? Has anybody else experienced this problem? FYI, I am running XBMC Live Atlantis Beta 1.
Also, if I don't have TV shows, is there a way to delete that tab, or change it to link to Last.fm or something? Can this be done by editing the tabs, as mentioned in the earlier post? If so, I'll wait til the next version when the tab preferences will stick.
Pr.Sinister
2008-09-26, 07:59
Thank you for making this great little app!
I have 2 problems that for the life of me, i cannot figure out how to do :
How do i queue individual items? For example, i go to my Video Sources and
go to my Downloads and in that folder, i have a bunch of sub-directories but
also a bunch of files not in folders. I want to queue up the following :
Burn.Notice.S02E09.HDTV.XviD-NoTV.[VTV].avi
Its.Always.Sunny.In.Philadelphia.S04E02.DSR.XviD-NoTV.avi
Righteous.Kill.R5.XViD-PUKKA (a folder)
How do i do that?
2nd Problem is how do i fast forward a video and not skip without going into
upside down mode and "More / Transport Command"?
Thanks!
Pr.Sinister
2008-09-27, 10:05
2nd Problem is how do i fast forward a video and not skip without going into
upside down mode and "More / Transport Command"?
Well i figured out how to go anywhere in the movie but i still don't know how to
do the Small Step and Big Step Forward and backwards.
But most importantly, still don't know how to queue individual files.
-Pr.
Messiahs
2008-09-29, 17:05
nice App.
Think i've found a little Bug in the AlbumView.
if no cover is present, the app loops in the filedownload call....
Request:
GET /xbmcCmds/xbmcHttp?command=FileDownload¶meter=C:%5C....%5CXBMC%5CUserData%5CThumbnails %5CMusic%5Cd%5Cd2372c92.tbn HTTP/1.1
User-Agent: xbmcremote/1.0 CFNetwork/339.3 Darwin/9.4.1
Accept: */*
Accept-Language: de-de
Accept-Encoding: gzip, deflate
Connection: keep-alive
Response:
HTTP/1.0 200 OK
Server: GoAhead-Webs
Pragma: no-cache
Cache-control: no-cache
Content-Type: text/html
<html>
</html>
Also, if I don't have TV shows, is there a way to delete that tab, or change it to link to Last.fm or something?
Here is the same... hope that there will be a way to customize the tabs... i would love to see "Genre" or a "Search-Button"
M.
Messiahs
2008-09-30, 22:17
@narcan
is it possible that you move the "settings" button to another place ? (perhaps to the default iPhone settings page?)
everytime i go back, back and back i hit with the next click the settings button cause he is on the same position like the back button.
btw really nice app.
M.
Pr.Sinister
2008-10-02, 04:48
So nobody here queues items?
I find it hard to believe... ???
Pr.Sinister
2008-10-07, 14:30
Friendly bump...
shanedoyle
2008-10-08, 12:01
One word narcan - magic - absolutely love it.. can finally leave my tv off..
Shane
EDIT: nevermind, found the problem great app!
Bought the app today.
I'm having trouble getting the movie thumbnails to show up as well. I've tried everything I can think of. I do seem to have a few different userdata locations, so that could be the problem. Tried the one under program files, the one under documents and settings\my user etc.
Is there a way to tell where this is located and is there anything else special I should do?
By the way, the app looks awesome and is the perfect compliment to my theater. I can't thank you enough. I won't bother listing any small bugs I've found as I'm sure they will all be worked out in future versions.
Much appreciated!
Tom
shoboat90
2008-10-13, 22:57
I bought the app today...so far, just love it! Controlling/listening to music/videos is great.
Question though....Is it possible to view pictures? I loaded My Pictures folder to the XBMC program on my Windows PC....but I don't see a way to view these from the phone?
thanks
As a fellow Aussie, I cannot honestly believe this guy is charging for this app. Im actually quite shocked. You are charging for a REMOTE app, whilst the guys who MADE THE ACTUAL xbmc dont charge one cent. I am in such shock i really dont know what to say.
How about you keep the XBMC vibe alive and make it free? Absolutely disgusting...
jkrellner
2008-10-15, 19:10
As a fellow Aussie, I cannot honestly believe this guy is charging for this app. Im actually quite shocked. You are charging for a REMOTE app, whilst the guys who MADE THE ACTUAL xbmc dont charge one cent. I am in such shock i really dont know what to say.
How about you keep the XBMC vibe alive and make it free? Absolutely disgusting...
That's a bit harsh. If you don't want to pay, then don't buy it. He does not have to give it away for free if he doesn't want to.
It is very simple: YOU DO NOT HAVE TO BUY ANYTHING
I'm very happy that narcan made this app, I would pay for xbmc also...
I would pay for xbmc also...
Well guess what, you dont have to because ITS FREE, thanks to all the hard work over god knows howmany years now!!
Well guess what, you dont have to because ITS FREE, thanks to all the hard work over god knows howmany years now!!
Please calm down. narcan has every right to charge for his app if he wishes to. There is no requirement that everything related to XBMC must be free. It costs a minimum of $100 to even have your app show up on the Apple app store, even if you intend to give away for free. You're more than welcome to pay that price and write another remote for XBMC and give it away for free if narcan's app is unacceptable.
There is no requirement that everything related to XBMC must be free.
Where does dignity come into all this? Instead of capatalising off it, howabout, if you have the ability, give somthing back to XBMC.
How did you come up with the idea to make a remote for XBMC?
It was mostly born out of necessity for myself. A long time user of XBMC on the xbox, I had been using the standard xbox remote which had worked fine for the most part, if a little clunky. But when XBMC started to branch out to the other platforms I was eager to install it on my different systems around the house but found each time I would be lacking a remote solution.
WELL, howabout you give somthing back to the app that you have used for so long!
Ohh yeah, the author is releasing other projects aswell:
Full Interview: (READ (http://forums.mactalk.com.au/20/59376-interview-xbmc-remote-iphone-developer-dave-fumberger.html))
Any plans for future iPhone apps?
Yes ! I have two projects currently nearing the submission stage. One of these is a simple game, and the other will be something a little bit different. Keeping them under wraps for now, but will let know as soon as they are ready.
So why cant you (capatalise/make your money) recoup your costs from those?
But for godsake keep XBMC clean from your money hunger.
pantherman007
2008-10-16, 20:04
narcan -
I hope these posts from one person don't discourage you from continuing development on this app. I was perfectly fine with paying a few bucks for this app and am looking forward to any upgrades you're planning.
Anyone who doesn't like the thought of paying a few bucks for the remote can just use the built-in XBMC web server on their iPhone via Safari.
Gamester17
2008-10-17, 14:41
@katz, what you are doing when you make posts like that I classify as flaming/trolling/baiting and if you continue you will get at least a 10-day temporary ban for that offense, see => http://xbmc.org/wiki/?title=XBMC_Forum_FAQ#What_is_netiquette.2C_and_wh at_is_the_standard_code_of_conduct.3F
:angry:
[EDIT]: Reading your other posts katz I have to tell you that you are on very thin ice already, please thread through this article about "How To Ask Questions The Smart Way" before you consider posting in this forum again => http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
:stare:
shadowdragon
2008-10-22, 18:11
The author has been quite the last month, so I've been checking his web site and yesterday he put up a news flash which he says an update is coming soon :)
jkrellner
2008-10-22, 22:59
The author has been quite the last month, so I've been checking his web site and yesterday he put up a news flash which he says an update is coming soon :)
That is great, thanks for letting us know here. I also noticed a PDF manual on the site, which may help solve the issue some of us are having with no art for movies/tv shows (it tells you what you should be using for the path). I am hoping, though, that upgrading to Atlantis Beta 2 will resolve this problem.
shadowdragon
2008-10-23, 05:03
That is great, thanks for letting us know here. I also noticed a PDF manual on the site, which may help solve the issue some of us are having with no art for movies/tv shows (it tells you what you should be using for the path). I am hoping, though, that upgrading to Atlantis Beta 2 will resolve this problem.
Im using b2 and have not noticed any issues with art work, it appears to be fine. Well fine with TV Shows and the banners coming up. I havent tried to see if the art work, works with movies....
My issue surrounds rotating the remote and having it freeze, i'll go into 'More' and the sub menu pops up, but the app freezes.
Can you play unrar'd content with the app? I have a source Downloads in my Videos sources and when I select something that is still rar'd it says no media available (or something long those lines).I will check exactly what it says when I get home.
The same rar'd TV show can be played fine if I use my keyboard and go through the menus and select it.
shadowdragon
2008-10-24, 07:36
Can you play unrar'd content with the app? I have a source Downloads in my Videos sources and when I select something that is still rar'd it says no media available (or something long those lines).I will check exactly what it says when I get home.
The same rar'd TV show can be played fine if I use my keyboard and go through the menus and select it.
The author says one of the items in his update will address .rar files.
The author says one of the items in his update will address .rar files.
Thanks for the info mate!
shadowdragon
2008-10-24, 17:03
Here is what the author posted on his website last Tuesday (Oct 21st)
New release on the way
A few people have email asking whether a new release is in the works...
The answer is yes, and it won't be too far away.
What to expect:
- Redesigned remote that is driven by gestures. The gestures make the remote much more responsive and allows XBMC to be navigated much faster. For those prefering the buttons though that mode has also been retained.
- Caching of thumbnails.
- RAR Support
- Bug fixes for tab bar and unicode.
SilverSide
2008-10-28, 21:26
I am used to use XBMC with 'file' view. The library mode is just to much hassle for me. 'File' view is perfect!
Is it possible to use this app with the 'file' view instead of the 'library' view?
..just wondering...
I am used to use XBMC with 'file' view. The library mode is just to much hassle for me. 'File' view is perfect!
Is it possible to use this app with the 'file' view instead of the 'library' view?
..just wondering...
It is possible. But the solution is still buggy. I'm hoping this will be fixed in the upcoming version:
http://xbmc.org/forum/showpost.php?p=220840&postcount=113
SilverSide
2008-10-28, 21:56
It is possible. But the solution is still buggy. I'm hoping this will be fixed in the upcoming version:
http://xbmc.org/forum/showpost.php?p=220840&postcount=113
Thanks for your quick reply. Let's hope it will function correctly in future versions.
Actually for me it's a go or no go for buying an ipod touch:nod:
shadowdragon
2008-10-30, 18:31
The price has dropped to $0.99 !! on the App Store. I just paid $5.00 a couple of weeks ago. This is the time to get it, if you haven't. It is still Version 1.0, but hopefully his update will come out soon.
ALcALoIDe
2008-11-02, 05:05
The price has dropped to $0.99 !! on the App Store. I just paid $5.00 a couple of weeks ago. This is the time to get it, if you haven't. It is still Version 1.0, but hopefully his update will come out soon.
Great tip! I just bought with this great price! Thanks. And loving it!!! :nod:
Evanrich
2008-11-04, 02:27
question....I downloaded and installed this, but i can't get covers to show up in the list. They show after i pick a movie, but not in the list...just empty placeholder boxes. I've tried setting the directory per the manual...anyone have a clue?
correction: TV shows show the thumbs/banner fine...just movies aren't. I have vista x64, and have the dir on my itouch pointed to C:\users\evan\appdata\roaming\XBMC\userdata which is the directory, and its not working.
If you go to file view in XBMC, do you see covers? It seems that the remote mimics whatever you have in file mode as opposed to library mode(in terms of cover art, info etc).
jkrellner
2008-11-04, 18:31
I have this problem too, but never checked file mode. Not sure how to switch to it (although I recall seeing instructions somewhere). However, what good would that do? I do not want to use file mode natively so how do we get covers in library mode? This is just supposed to work; why does it only work for some people and not others?
Well what I found was that if you had the covers in file mode they would show up on the remote. I still operate my XBMC in library mode(who wouldn't) its just a extra tedious step of going into library mode and getting media info from there to make sure you have covers etc for the remote.
As a side note this software is now OPEN SOURCE: http://github.com/djfumberger/xbmc-remote/tree/master
I hope a skilled programmer can pick this project up and turn it into what it should have been from the start.
jkrellner
2008-11-04, 21:05
Well what I found was that if you had the covers in file mode they would show up on the remote. I still operate my XBMC in library mode(who wouldn't) its just a extra tedious step of going into library mode and getting media info from there to make sure you have covers etc for the remote.
I am not following. Can you explain what steps you are talking about, and which are performed in XBMC and which are performed in XBMC remote? If not, that's cool, but you lost me somewhere along the way.
Sorry about that, basically whatever your XBMC has in file mode(NOT library mode) will show up on the XBMC iPhone Remote.
Go to File mode in XBMC and from there scrape show info and cover-art. This is where the XBMC remote pulls all media information from.
Evanrich
2008-11-05, 05:59
i see the images in file view, and if i try changing or removing the directory setting for the path on my itouch, then my tv show images dissapear, so i know it's pulling the images, just for some reason its not pulling images for movies. I'll have to add some audio cds and see if it pulls thumbs for those, as all I'm using now is tv shows and movies.
It pulls the cover-art for music differently than for movies/tv shows so those should come up without issue.
whoisjay
2008-12-07, 23:53
Absolutely love this app. The v1.1 release has so many new features. The customizable remotes are very clever. I've mostly been using it with Boxee and it works great there too, especially with last.fm!
We have a 11 zone audio distribution system in our house with KNX home control for the amps, audio sources, blinds, lights, security and heating. We were originally hoping we could create our own all in one iPhone app to integrate the XBMC web server controls with the KNX controls (also over the local network), but this little app is soooo good, I've decided to just use this and the separate KNX Gira "Interface" in Safari. Now if only Apple would let us run more than one app at a time!
Thanks narcan.
None of the above soulutions actually work. Would it be possible to use the new OFFICIAL iPhone RemoteApp to control XBMC?
http://www.apple.com/itunes/remote/
Since the regular Apple remote workes with XBMC, maby the new remote also works?
I had no idea the apple remote works with xbmc, do you need to use eventghost to set it up?
Wonderful app!
If anybody discovers a blank artist screen: This seems to be a small bug which has a workaround. (see here. http://remote.collect3.com.au/help/flat/269)
Can anybody help me:
I use the advanced setting hidecompilationartists to filter those artists from the artist view. But XBMC Remote displays them anyhow! Where does it this artist listing from? Is there a different setting for the webserver?
Hapy X-Mas!
We have all our music setup in .m3u playlists.
Is it possible with this app to queue these playlists? is it possible to view the queue of media and delete/shuffle songs?
<EDIT> This is possible. I need to push my existing playlists into the right place on XBMC and use <pathsubstitution> in the advancedsettings.xml and this works.
My next question does the remote support the volume control within XBMC? This is very useful.
</EDIT>
Thanks
Byron
SystemLord
2009-01-06, 18:03
First of all, great App! :) Love it!
I have just one question, or see it as a possible feature request.
Can an option for WOL (Wake Up On Lan) be implemented?
For now i use a seperate app for that, to first switch on my PC/Fileserver where xbmc is installed, it would be nice of this can be done directly from your App.
Hi guys!
Is it really that good, worth buying an ipod touch / iphone just to be able to use it as a remote?
I'm especially interested in being able to create playlists for music playback, without having the need of my LCD-TV being on.
Is it a buy? :)
//M
jkrellner
2009-01-08, 16:38
Hi guys!
Is it really that good, worth buying an ipod touch / iphone just to be able to use it as a remote?
I'm especially interested in being able to create playlists for music playback, without having the need of my LCD-TV being on.
Is it a buy? :)
//M
That would be an expensive remote, for just one piece of hardware...
SystemLord
2009-01-12, 16:14
That would be an expensive remote, for just one piece of hardware...
I think that was not the question mlmc asked...
For as far i know, you can't create playlists with this app. It sure will play your playlist created on another way. You can queue items it the same folder.
It sure a buy, not only to control xbmc, but there are usefull other apps and games you sure will like on this ipod touch. For example, there is also a air mouse utility, by which you can also control xbmc with the mouse using your ipod touch, using the touchscreen as a hover.
On the other hand the author stands open for new ideas, so it will only become better.
The only thing to consider is the expected growth of android devices, which proberly will be cheaper than the ipod.
Succes!
steve1977
2009-01-18, 13:51
It pulls the cover-art for music differently than for movies/tv shows so those should come up without issue.
Looking for help here. Got the remote and it works rather nicely. I can see the music and the TV shows cover-art, but I cannot see the cover-art for movies. Any thoughts on this one?
I use XBMC on a XBOX. All my movies are in a library and in the .rar-format. I'm using the default XBMC-skin (PMIII). I'm using the latest version of XBMC remote.
Now. The XBMC remote is working as expected. Except - I'm unable to start movies. When I select a movie the screen says something like: "please wait..". Then the dialog dissapears and nothing happens.
When I use my Xbox remote - the movie starts as expected.
Does anyone have same problem, or a solution maby?
Oh, thats too bad... ;(
Would be really neat if "playlist functions" were added, quick and easy way to build/manage queues. Maybe even with 'search' ability, by track/artist/album.
Where can I make these requests? I wish i could contribute.. but I have no coding skills...
I think that was not the question mlmc asked...
For as far i know, you can't create playlists with this app. It sure will play your playlist created on another way. You can queue items it the same folder.
It sure a buy, not only to control xbmc, but there are usefull other apps and games you sure will like on this ipod touch. For example, there is also a air mouse utility, by which you can also control xbmc with the mouse using your ipod touch, using the touchscreen as a hover.
On the other hand the author stands open for new ideas, so it will only become better.
The only thing to consider is the expected growth of android devices, which proberly will be cheaper than the ipod.
Succes!
SystemLord
2009-01-19, 12:25
Where can I make these requests? I wish i could contribute.. but I have no coding skills...
Take a look here:
http://remote.collect3.com.au/
Much appreciated, thanks for the help! :)
Take a look here:
http://remote.collect3.com.au/
Hi, long time lurker, first time posting.
Ive got this set up with my itouch on my xbox
one problem im having is, whenever i chose an artist/ album from the XBMC app.
it goofs up and plays the whole album randomly, even when i don't have shuffle turned on in the xbmc interface. Its seems to only happen when the XBMC app is on, if i chose anything from the xbmc it self its fine
besides that I love this App:cool:
thanks for any help
Just to let you all know a new version should be around the corner soon... Apple is taking it's time reviewing it as always.
Here's the details:
New Features
-----------
* TV Guide
If using MythTV with XBMC the XBMC Remote will now show an enhanced view for the guide.
This can be found by selecting 'Guide' under the MythTV video share.
The guide has both a portrait and a landscape mode. The portrait mode gives details of the current and next program , the landscape shows listings for next 12 hours.
Because of changes in XBMC the settings allows selection of the timezone for the guide. In the current release of XBMC the timezone needs to be set to 'UTC', in the current SVN the timezone will need to be set to 'Local'.
* Remote available on tab bar
In addition to when the remote is turned upside down the button & gesture remote is now available on the tab bar.
* Movie view enhancements
The movie view now shows a description of the movie, genre and rating.
* Watched status
The TV episodes now indicate whether they have been watched or not.
* Keyboard
Keyboard is now available from the gesture and button remote.
Changes / Bug fixes
----------------
* Issues with movie thumbnails are now fixed. Thumbnails would not display if multiple movies were from the same directory.
* Cached images are now displayed faster
* Gesture remote double tap is more solid
* Gesture remote now behaves a little smoother as well as including a back button. Back can still be triggered by a two finger swipe but the button allows for single handed use to be a little easier.
* General UI enhancements.
Just to let you all know a new version should be around the corner soon...
Great! Any chance that there will be support for customized remote commands in the "toolbox" for us who wants the remote to send http commands to USB-UIRT and other network http to IR translator?
Regards
Oscar
Rand Al Thor
2009-02-03, 10:19
@Narcan
That is great! I finally got my iphone and I am really loving it. This app was the first one that I put on the phone when I got it. There are a few issues that I have had. I posted about the HERE (http://remote.collect3.com.au/bugs/flat/377) on your website. Some of them should be resolved with this next update. I will post more information for you there. Cheers and thanks again.
natethomas
2009-02-05, 05:24
I bought this app a while back and have had zero problems with it. As a fairly new member of the iphone/ipod touch cult, I don't know how updates are handled. Will I have to re-buy this app, or will it update for me?
jkrellner
2009-02-05, 06:17
When you go into the App Store, you can select the icon to the far right on the bottom and it will tell you if an update is available. If it is, you can select "install" and it will give you the update. Pretty smooth and you should not experience problems.
Rand Al Thor
2009-02-05, 08:17
I bought this app a while back and have had zero problems with it. As a fairly new member of the iphone/ipod touch cult, I don't know how updates are handled. Will I have to re-buy this app, or will it update for me?
Yep, it should be an automated process. Quick and painless ;) Out of curiosity which platform are you running on and what revision. I am running both windows and linux with builds compiled earlier today. You can read some of findings in the link from my previous post. Has anyone else noticed that on windows up and down seem to actually be page up and page down? Every time I hit one of those two buttons it skips like 20 items. This is not the case on my linux build though. Also, if you bring up the context menu or xbmc movie info screen it seems to freeze the app.
Anyone else experiencing something similar? I can't wait to try the new version and see what is new and improved!
natethomas
2009-02-05, 17:29
I guess I should note a caveat in my zero problems statement. I don't typically use the touch upside down. For me, it is simply a way of selecting a video or song. I use windows and I did check the response to the up and down commands, and you seem to be correct. Hitting down is effectively like hitting page down.
Rand Al Thor
2009-02-05, 20:21
That is pretty much what I figured. I have also tried it with the nokia 770 remote and the same thing happens so it looks like it is an XBMC thing and not an XBMC remote thing. Linux seems to be fine. Strange. I will report the bug. Cheers.
Every time I hit one of those two buttons it skips like 20 items. This is not the case on my linux build though. Also, if you bring up the context menu or xbmc movie info screen it seems to freeze the app.
I think these are both XBMC issues. I'll have to look into it though...
I'm still trying to get apple to accept this update. Just got rejected again, here is all they said:
"Your release notes state "Watched status The TV episodes now indicate whether they have been watched or not"; however, the user is unable to get TV episodes to play as the play/pause buttons do not work. Consequently, no indication is made whether the episodes have been watched or not. Additionally, when viewing a playlist, Live @ DuMaurier Jazz Festival appears though user had not selected this episode. "
What are they on about ?!
At least another week minimum now... :(
Rand Al Thor
2009-02-06, 04:32
At least another week minimum now... :(
Doh! That is the worst news I have heard all week. Silly Apple ;) Anyway, thanks for looking into those issues. I was fairly certain the up/down thing was an xbmc issue since it was happening with more than one web remote. I posted it on trac here (http://xbmc.org/trac/ticket/5856). I am not too sure about the freezing whenever a context menu is open. There a few other issues that I have tracked down. I posted them on your website. Not sure if you still check it but the other bugs can be viewed here (http://remote.collect3.com.au/bugs/flat/377). Cheers and thanks again for all your hard work!
Rand Al Thor
2009-02-08, 21:39
Did some more troubleshooting today. If you use the web interface from here (http://xbmc.org/forum/showthread.php?t=40958) up and down work properly on windows. However, in the iphone remote and the nokia 770 remote it still behaves as page up/down. I thought it might be easier for you to narrow down whether or not this is an xbmc thing or with the iphone remote or both. Cheers.
msaspence
2009-02-23, 23:00
The thumbnail caching is a brilliant feature but is the any way (other than unistalling an reinstalling) to update them?
Narcan like your application, kid brother has an Iphone.
I've got the G1 with Android, like it a lot and there are already simple remote apps for xbmc and Boxee available.
Is there a possibility that your apllication will be available for android ?
deepblue
2009-03-01, 19:46
one problem im having is, whenever i chose an artist/ album from the XBMC app.
it goofs up and plays the whole album randomly, even when i don't have shuffle turned on in the xbmc interface. Its seems to only happen when the XBMC app is on, if i chose anything from the xbmc it self its fine
Hey Narcan - I love this app...I'm using it to control my xbmc upstairs and down, works amazing!
I'm having the same issue as the previous poster - I use the music library, and when I browse by artist, select an album and play a song...instead of playing the remaining songs in the album in track sequence, XBMC creates a very random playlist of the album's tracks with no discernable logic and plays through them. I've triple checked that I don't have shuffle enabled, and using the XBMC interface to play songs has them play in correct sequence, as expected.
Any suggestions - is this a known issue?
I'm unsure if others here are using the Music Library (perhaps they are using File view), but in addition to this, it would be great if you could have the XBMC remote "ignore" the "Various Artists" artist (i.e. compilations) when using Library mode - as presently I've got hundreds of random artists from my compilations in the artist view on the XBMC remote, while not on XBMC.
Thanks.
Rand Al Thor
2009-03-01, 20:03
@deepblue
Yeah, narcan is aware of this bug. There is a new version of the app awaiting approval that will have a lot of changes and bug fixes. I am not sure if this one will be addressed in the update or not as it is not a "major" bug. I wouldn't worry though. The developer is really working hard to keep this up to date and ironing out all the bugs.
You might want to post on the new forums (http://collect3.com.au/forum/) so that the bug doesn't get "lost" in the mix.
The ability to "thin out" the artist view is being addressed as well, just so you know.
Cheers.
deepblue
2009-03-01, 20:17
Rand - Thanks...this app is probably the best thing I've installed on my ipod touch since I bought it. I look forward to the new release, and will post this bug in the forums.
Cheers.
jmadonald
2009-03-06, 21:26
Should the movie posters show on the remote? I have this with xbox
My album covers show just not movies
Rand Al Thor
2009-03-07, 03:05
What revision number is your version of xbmc? There were some recent changes in svn regarding the userdata path. I believe the version of the remote that addresses this change is still awaiting approval. Cheers.
jmadonald
2009-03-09, 02:08
I have 9.04svn (dec7)
While I've known about this app for a long time I didn't get to try it until today cause I needed an Ipod.
Been playing around a couple of hours now, and really enjoying it! This app is worth buying the Ipod touch for alone :)
Had a couple of guests at my place tonight, we were at my balcony having a glass of wine while the music was playing from the living room at the other side of the house. At a time one of my friends asked if I could change the music. Sure, I said, reached in my pocket for the Ipod, and asked what do you want? The look on his face when I fulfilled his wishes (musicwise!) with the living room two rooms away from the balcony was priceless :)
I think he's gonna buy an Ipod and install XBMC on his home computer tomorrow :)
deepblue
2009-03-21, 15:58
At a time one of my friends asked if I could change the music. Sure, I said, reached in my pocket for the Ipod, and asked what do you want? The look on his face when I fulfilled his wishes (musicwise!) with the living room two rooms away from the balcony was priceless :)
I agree - this app in the best thing I've found in the Appstore yet. Unfortunately the above only works when you handpick each song - per my previous post, albums don't play in the correct order due to an existing bug.
Any word on when we'll see the next update (that will hopefully fix this)?
Rand Al Thor
2009-03-21, 19:19
I agree - this app in the best thing I've found in the Appstore yet. Unfortunately the above only works when you handpick each song - per my previous post, albums don't play in the correct order due to an existing bug.
Any word on when we'll see the next update (that will hopefully fix this)?
There were actually some recent additions to the webserver that should allow for more playlist control.
@daje
Glad you like the app.
Thanks for the update but playing music is still randomly.
Rand Al Thor
2009-03-22, 20:15
Thanks for the update but playing music is still randomly.
Yeah, the changes I was referring to were made after the latest version of the remote was submitted for approval. Cheers.
deepblue
2009-03-22, 20:21
Rand - one other item that I noticed...are you guys aware that when you install a new release, it erases all of the previous settings? (i.e. you've got to 're-add' the hosts, etc.).
Thanks.
I need help guys and gals,
based onthe comments here, I purchased the app. I cannot connect to xbmc for the life of me.
I verified the settings work through firefox. I am able to connect using the webserver and control the xbox through firefox fine. however, I configure the app with the same ip address and password and it will not connect. it never asks for a username like firefox does. any idea? it just gives "error connecting to xbox: error
anyone run into this issue? my xbox is on a wireless connection but I am able to ftp to it, control it through websever on a desktop etc. all the web functions on the xbox work(rss, weather, etc). not sure what the issue is.
I am using the svn compiled on 03-15-09, so fairly recent.
any ideas?
Rand Al Thor
2009-03-22, 23:51
jarod,
The username shouldn't matter. As long as you have the password entered correctly you should be fine. I would guess that maybe you are using the wrong port in the remote config. Without knowing more about your setup that is the best I can tell you for now. Make sure you have wifi enabled too. The current version does not work with 3g.
@deepblue
I would imagine this was done by design. There have been lots of changes in recent revisions and just like with xbmc the best way to avoid conflicts from settings left over from previous versions is to start fresh.
jarod,
The username shouldn't matter. As long as you have the password entered correctly you should be fine. I would guess that maybe you are using the wrong port in the remote config. Without knowing more about your setup that is the best I can tell you for now. Make sure you have wifi enabled too. The current version does not work with 3g.
@deepblue
I would imagine this was done by design. There have been lots of changes in recent revisions and just like with xbmc the best way to avoid conflicts from settings left over from previous versions is to start fresh.
It must be the latest svn, I just tried today's daily build and got the same issue. I tried a version of xbmc from like a year ago and it connects and allows me to browse but i cannot start a video.
Rand Al Thor, what version of xbmc are you using?
Rand Al Thor
2009-03-23, 00:40
I compile daily. I am running on linux, Mac OS X, and Windows Vista, so it might be an XBOX only thing. Are you running the newest version of XBMC remote? There was an update released just a couple days ago. If you had a previous version of the remote installed, I would suggest removing it from your iphone completely and deleting completely from Itunes. Then try reinstalling from there. Sometimes things from previous versions have a nasty habit of lingering around after you update. This can cause some strange behavior. That is why I always suggest starting with a clean slate.
You also never answered my question about the port. IIRC, the remote defaults to port 8080. XBMC might be running on port 80. Since you are running it on the xbox you might want to try setting a password. I usually leave mine blank but on the xbox you might need to put something in there. Hopefully that helps. Cheers.
I compile daily. I am running on linux, Mac OS X, and Windows Vista, so it might be an XBOX only thing. Are you running the newest version of XBMC remote? There was an update released just a couple days ago. If you had a previous version of the remote installed, I would suggest removing it from your iphone completely and deleting completely from Itunes. Then try reinstalling from there. Sometimes things from previous versions have a nasty habit of lingering around after you update. This can cause some strange behavior. That is why I always suggest starting with a clean slate.
You also never answered my question about the port. IIRC, the remote defaults to port 8080. XBMC might be running on port 80. Since you are running it on the xbox you might want to try setting a password. I usually leave mine blank but on the xbox you might need to put something in there. Hopefully that helps. Cheers.
Sorry, I missed your inquiry about the port. It must be a xbox thing, as I can connect with a much older version of xbmc, but the last two dailys do not work. I am using port 80 and can connect and control he xbox over the internet with a web browser. I am using a password as the latest xbmc svn seems like it will not let u run websever without a password.
It must be specific to the xbox somehow. I will open a ticket with the application owner. would like it to work with the latest xbmc though...
Sorry, I missed your inquiry about the port. It must be a xbox thing, as I can connect with a much older version of xbmc, but the last two dailys do not work. I am using port 80 and can connect and control he xbox over the internet with a web browser. I am using a password as the latest xbmc svn seems like it will not let u run websever without a password.
It must be specific to the xbox somehow. I will open a ticket with the application owner. would like it to work with the latest xbmc though...
Rand Al Thor,
Thanks for all your help. I have stepped back to the T3CH 01.25.09 build for now. The remote works and works wonderfully with it. I got the daily build from a website. The interface for configuring the webserver looks a little different. It has a username as well as password. Not sure why the latest svn compiled does not work on xbox. maybe the build from the nightly builds is missing something? or a change has been made as the configuration is slightly different. Hopefully the developer will look into it. I can deal with the 01.25.09 build for now.
if anyone has any ideas why the latest form svn will not work, let me know..
I can't get the application to work either. It worked fine on an old build, but all the recent (Windows-)builds don't work together with the app! This is a serious bug :s
Strangely, the web interface works fine when accessed from a computer.
Rand Al Thor
2009-04-05, 17:51
I can't get the application to work either. It worked fine on an old build, but all the recent (Windows-)builds don't work together with the app! This is a serious bug :s
Strangely, the web interface works fine when accessed from a computer.
x5nder,
I compile daily on Windows and Linux. I can confirm that the Remote works with new revisions. If you would like help you need to be much more specific in your help request. Simply posting "I can't get the application to work" is very informative. Please visit the collect3 forums and fill out a proper help request with specifics.
Cheers,
Rand
I had a play with this app last night and got it working pretty much straight away. The video library bit worked well, however I don't use a music library as I've never managed to get my .m3u playlists to work in library mode (tried path substitution etc etc etc).
I browsed to music sources and when I select a source the remote and xbox do the usual trick of taking up to 15-20 seconds or so to open the source since XBMC walks the playlists it finds. The playlists need to be in the source so I can select and play them.
This seemed to cause a timeout where the remote would complain it looses connection after ~10seconds and the "working" hourglass on XBMC would pause. The remote would try again and we'd be in the same horrible deadlock forever.
Is there a way to increase the timeout for the remote so it will wait longer for the xbox to respond? I will try on my XBMC on windows which only takes 1second to do the walk to verify it's a timeout problem and not something else.
Other than that, it's very slick, but unusable for me at the moment.
Thanks
Byron
Rand Al Thor
2009-04-07, 01:33
Unfortunately, there is no way to currently increase the amount of time. I doubt that is actually the underlying issue though. I do want to mention that the XBMC Remote and the XBMC Streamer are written specifically for use with the XBMC Library. Browsing by folders is possible but it is not the "official" way of accessing your media.
Cheers,
Rand
Thanks. I've worked out how to import my playlists into library mode, so I'll give it a whirl tonight.
B
Rand Al Thor
2009-04-09, 01:57
Thanks. I've worked out how to import my playlists into library mode, so I'll give it a whirl tonight.
B
Great! I am interested in hearing how it goes. I might make it a sticky on the forums for others who are having similar issues. Keep us posted.
Do you still add features? A Wake-On-Line feature would be a great addition to your program.
Rand Al Thor
2009-04-12, 19:41
Hey bluey,
We are always taking feature requests. However, the best way to make sure they don't get "lost in the mix" would be to post your feature request on the collect3 forums. (http://collect3.com.au/forum/)
Rand
An other question: How do I use the Podcast menu? I have already serval video podcasts in my sources.xml but I still don't see them under podcasts. The video sources view is not really suitable for it because it doesn't sort all entries by date.
How well does the Iphone Remote handle mp3 playlists (music management) nowadays? Would be much appreciated if someone could comment on it.. :)
Thanks!
//M
Rand Al Thor
2009-05-07, 20:15
Atm, you cannot queue a playlist directly. There is something strange going on and we are looking into it. We are hoping to have that resolved for the next release.
Cheers,
Rand
Sounds like the ultimate remote is in the works.. ;)
Atm, you cannot queue a playlist directly. There is something strange going on and we are looking into it. We are hoping to have that resolved for the next release.
Cheers,
Rand
Rand Al Thor
2009-05-08, 19:58
Sounds like the ultimate remote is in the works.. ;)
Hehe, yeah we like it ;)
Atm, you cannot queue a playlist directly. There is something strange going on and we are looking into it. We are hoping to have that resolved for the next release.
Cheers,
Rand
Hey!
Just following up.
How is it going with the "queuing issue"? Playlists is an important feature for me, would be nice if it was solved! :)
You're probably working on it, whats the status?
Cheerio!
//M
Rand Al Thor
2009-06-15, 06:13
It has been fixed. We just submitted a new version to apple a couple days ago. There is a ton of stuff that has gone into the new version. I'll post back here when it hits the app store.
Cheers,
Rand
....There is a ton of stuff that has gone into the new version. I'll post back here when it hits the app store.
Thats just cruel :-)
Give us some hint please of what to expect please.
bidossessi
2009-06-22, 11:59
@Rand Al thor: we? are you part of the dev team for this app now?
I believe this app should be used as a standard/reference of HOW IT SHOULD BE DONE (or HISBD) for other OSes (android, symbian, Windows Mobile, whatever) . Is it really open sourced now, and is there some work going on for porting it to the other major OSes?
<ot>and btw, WHEN are you gonna get to shayol gull, kick some dark butt, and let us get on with our lives??!!</ot>
Rand Al Thor
2009-06-22, 20:11
I am a full time member of collect3 now. That is correct. We really appreciate all of the kind words everyone here has expressed for the application. We have worked extremely hard on the project and we use it ourselves on a daily basis. The new version should prove to be even more impressive. The application is currently not open sourced. However, if we ever decide to abandon the project (not likely in the foreseeable future), I believe Dave has decided he would open the source at that point.
collect3 is currently only developing applications for the iPhone. However, that does not mean that we will never expand the operation.
If I am not mistaken, I will be taking a trip Shayol Ghul in the fall of this year ;)
moshelog
2009-06-22, 20:28
xbmc remote 1.3 crash after i did update to os 3.0 on my iphone .
everything works ok until i start movie or song then it crash
let me know guys if anyone else having that trouble
thx
moshelog
Best to report to the app creator.
Rand Al Thor
2009-06-22, 21:00
The app is available on the itunes app store. We have submitted a new version (quite a while ago actually) and we are just waiting on Apple to approve it.
logictester
2009-06-22, 21:04
The app is available on the itunes app store. We have submitted a new version (quite a while ago actually) and we are just waiting on Apple to approve it.
is it free?
thanks
Rand Al Thor
2009-06-22, 21:26
No, it is not a free application.
logictester
2009-06-22, 21:32
No, it is not a free application.
thanks for the info
NotShorty
2009-07-02, 21:24
Gosh dangit, I think I need an iPhone now...
http://remote.collect3.com.au/
Rand Al Thor
2009-07-02, 21:45
Yeah, I guess I should have posted here as well. Version 1.5 is out now. Lots of new stuff! I started a thread here (http://xbmc.org/forum/showthread.php?t=53824) for anyone interested in winning a free copy ;)