View Full Version : Full DVD-video playback with menus (and DVD-Video related suggestions)
i've been looking for something like this. i think there should be a way to rip a dvd to the xbox and play it using xbmc. yes, you can play the .vob files, but i'm looking to run it as if it was a dvd in the drive. i want to be able to use the menu and change languages and everything, but from a file that is on the hard drive.
i guess, when thereīs full dvd playback, this is only a little step codingwise (except if you expect the ripping thing included into xbmc which would be problematic from a legal point of view (css)). so lets wait until the dvd thing is included...
well i don't expect the dvd ripping part to be included. there are always programs like dvd2xbox. i'm just tired of playing ever .vob file to watch the movie.
Lotonicus
2003-11-10, 23:02
does xbmc have the ability to play dvd video? i have been trying to make it play and all it does is show me the files on the dvd.
i have searched the forum, internet, and the faq and i could not find the answer.
how do i play them?
Gamester17
2003-11-11, 14:23
no, it's not possible yet. you have to wait until some dev ports both xine and libdvdnav source code to xbmc (big task)
zwinflame
2003-11-16, 05:45
i have been waiting for this feature for a loooong loong time. i would really like if the devs could give this feature some notice. everytime a release is made, i look for this.
i tried posting at xbox-scene forums, but i guess this is a place where i could post a feature request.
its my personal petetion to the devs ! thanks for the great product.
dewdman42
2003-11-18, 21:52
this is probably asking a lot..but if you guys were able to figure out how to play dvd's with progressive output...it would be the best news of the decade...
jmarshall
2003-11-18, 22:56
the hard part is getting the reading/menu control of the dvd done. our current underlying engine (mplayer) doesn't handle dvds well.
once that is done, dvds will enjoy progressive output just like all other videos.
i would be able to "mount" a remotely stored .img file of a dvd and play it on the xbox. thus making it unnessesary to burn it to a dvd-r before watching it..
would be nice he?
not possible @ the moment, but who knows...
maybe in the future
frodo
you could mount the dvd image on your pc using alcohol 120% or daemon tools, etc. and then share the mounted drive over smb or relax.
you could mount the dvd image on your pc using alcohol 120% or daemon tools, etc. and then share the mounted drive over smb or relax.
the menues still don't work with it.. tried it already.. can't choose in the dvd menues.. that's a problem...
Hullebulle
2003-12-30, 01:39
true. there is no dvd menu support in xbmc as of yet.
i know that this might almost be like swearing in the church, but i have a long time had a gentoo linux computer (not xbox) as my media machine. here i used xine player to play dvd from the hd with full menu support, highlighting plus more.
can we somehow use xine to add this functionality until mplayer makes it work? in xine i just made a sym link from the directory where i stored the dvd files to for instance /home/username/dvd and then i edited the settings in xine to look for dvd files here. so i just updated the symlink, then i run "xine dvd://" and away we go.
for xvid, divx, ogg etc mplayer rules as far as i know, xine works but not as smooth.
i am considering using somekind of a linux install on the xbox in adition to the xbmc/xbmp so i can use xine, but i don't know yet just where to start... (liking the gentoox project though).
(also posted to xbmp forums)
Gamester17
2004-02-24, 15:03
possible yes but not a small task as has to port entire xine to xbox and a new core (dll) for xbmc, see sf.net xbmc rfe here(link) (http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=87054&atid=581841&func=detail&aid=848387)
(also posted to xbmp forums)
http://www.xboxmediaplayer.de/cgi-bin....f70ea0f (http://www.xboxmediaplayer.de/cgi-bin/ib31/ikonboard.cgi?act=search&code=02&sid=403b48ec3f70ea0f)
i would start working at once if i just knew where to start! :)
Gamester17
2004-02-24, 16:50
i would start working at once if i just knew where to start! :)
are you a skilled c/c++ programmer yourself?, because you have to be to port xine's source code to xbox/xbmc http://www.xboxmediaplayer.de/forums/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
nope, sorry. thats just the problem. i need to rely on other experts. probably just like youreself.
Gamester17
2004-02-24, 18:27
nope, sorry. thats just the problem. i need to rely on other experts. probably just like youreself.
nope, i'm not a programmer/coder myself either, but i do know that posting xine will be no sunday picknic, even for a skilled developer
lets hope the dvd nav is soon done then. i see that frodo is working on it. :)
really looking forward to it!
hi,
xbmc can play vob files stored in a folder, great. but it would be even better if it would recognize that the folder represents a complete dvd (incl. menus, extras and different languages) and would treat the folder like a real dvd (showing only the "dvd" and not the folder itself, starting playback in the dvd's menu etc.).
regs
volkmar
p.s.: i love this app.... http://www.xboxmediaplayer.de/forums/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
this is long lasting feature request, dvd menu support is unlikly to happen in any short timeframe(requires changing our base player mplayer, or getting them to support it) . playback of dvd's is supported without queing vobs in current cvs.
elupus
this seems like a very basic concept. i'd like to actually have my dvd's menu's so i can watch it without selecting the individual .vob files. and for the cosmetic reason too obviously. leme know.
Gamester17
2004-04-08, 13:07
are you asking for .ifo support or dvd-menu suppport? basic ifo support is already in, and there are other threads asking for menu support
the .ifo filename is supported but it does not work. the whole concept of .ifo files is the dvd menu.
Gamester17
2004-04-08, 15:22
the .ifo filename is supported but it does not work. the whole concept of .ifo files is the dvd menu.
ifo support isn't the same as dvd-menu, and again it isn't clear if that is what you are asking for, is it? if so will merge into existing requests
Gamester17
2004-04-13, 11:53
merged all threads asking for dvd-video playback support with menu support into one topic " full dvd-video playback with menus "
is it possible to bring in just the menu system code from ogle to xbmc ???
check it out at:
ogle's homepage (http://www.dtek.chalmers.se/groups/dvd/)
this is a quick question i have... everytime i rip a dvd to the hd with dvd2xbox it creates 2 folders... one called "video_ts" and one called "original_ifo", what i would like to is use xbmc to run the folder like it would a regular dvd insted of trying to find the right .vob through trial and error... so i can start the dvd menu and pick the episode, change chapters etc etc., is there anyway to do this?
Uthiroid
2004-04-30, 05:14
i really would like this feature too. seems like it couldn't be too hard to mount a folder and make xbmc think it's a dvd drive.... course i'm not a dev, so what do i know!
ok, so you cant do this? sorry to post in the wrong forum, what about if i would make the folders into a .iso or .img file on my pc, then ftp them back to the xbox? would that work?
there is no dvd menu support in xbmc.
please search the forums. lots of topics on this.
ts
there is no dvd menu support in xbmc.
please search the forums. *lots of topics on this.
ts
this is the topic on that http://www.xboxmediaplayer.de/forums/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
Gamester17
2004-04-30, 15:19
there is no dvd menu support in xbmc.
please search the forums. *lots of topics on this.
ts
this is the topic on that *http://www.xboxmediaplayer.de/forums/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
it wasn't a minute ago, i merged (and will continue merging) all the threads asking for "dvd menu" support for xbmc into this one topic
currently i have a big ol windows file server which holds 30-50 full dvd iso's. i've been using a pc with daemon tools to mount the iso's and play them, but what i would really like is to have a virtual cd/dvd drive on xbmc! that way i could mount the dvd iso's over the network and it would be like a dvd jukebox.
wouldn't that be a neat feature? this way it's just like watching a dvd from the drive. you have full menu access etc...
i've been doing this with my pc, so i know it can be done, and it works really well!
vanhin:
currently xbmc can run dvds from iso files (even over the network) without the need to mount them. so if full dvd support is ever implemented you can be sure that you could just run from the iso on your server.
morien
Calathia
2004-05-14, 09:40
i see audio stream switching is working on dvd streaming, grrrrreat !
imo, i do not see the dvd menu problem so important. afterall, its the movie what counts, right?
i think subtitles support is the number 1 importance now, and i've been waiting (drooling) this feature for some time now. developers: have you tried to get subs on streamdvds work? is there any chance of this feature soon or is this long time problem?
keep up the excellent work devs!
hi all, i would like to know if the following ideawould be possible with a future version of xbmc:
lets say i have several dvd's ripped to my pc server on my network, all stored in a shared folder. the dvd's are ripped using dvd decrypter and stored in .iso format. would it be possible to mount the dvd's to a virtual drive from the xbox using xbmc, like daemon tools or alcohol 120% does. making the xbox a super dvd changer. could this be done with a future release of xbmc?
hi all, i would like to know if the following ideawould be possible with a future version of xbmc:
lets say i have several dvd's ripped to my pc server on my network, all stored in a shared folder. the dvd's are ripped using dvd decrypter and stored in .iso format. would it be possible to mount the dvd's to a virtual drive from the xbox using xbmc, like daemon tools or alcohol 120% does. making the xbox a super dvd changer. could this be done with a future release of xbmc?
i don't understand you 100%.
do you want to play a dvd movie you have on your pc as an iso file in xbmc ??? if so then it's already possible. just select the iso file and press play.
if thats not what you are asking for then sorry for not understanding * http://www.xboxmediaplayer.de/forums/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
all the iso files will be stored on a network share, so the dvd's will be streamed over the network to my xbox. the iso files will not be located on the xbox hd at all. so i can have more than one xbox any where in my crib and stream full uncompressed dvds to them.
Gamester17
2004-05-21, 12:44
i have several dvd's ripped to my pc server on my network, all stored in a shared folder. the dvd's are ripped using dvd decrypter and stored in .iso format. would it be possible to mount the dvd's to a virtual drive from the xbox using xbmc, like daemon tools or alcohol 120% does. making the xbox a super dvd changer.
this is already possible (only i beileve you have to re-name the .iso extention of each file to .img but i might that remember incorrect?).
however if you're asking for full dvd-video playback including dvd-video menu?, then that's a completly different matter, see here (link) (http://www.xboxmediaplayer.de/cgi-bin/forums/ikonboard.pl?act=st;f=4;t=389)
dylanbox
2004-05-21, 13:43
hi - i wonder if the same is possible with xbox games.
would it be possible to store mounted images on a server and share them through smb or whatever and then launch them on the xbox?
thx,
dylan
hi - i wonder if the same is possible with xbox games.
would it be possible to store mounted images on a server and share them through smb or whatever and then launch them on the xbox?
thx,
dylan
no no no no no no and no.
this has been discussed lots of times..
Gamester17
2004-05-21, 14:03
hi - i wonder if the same is possible with xbox games.
would it be possible to store mounted images on a server and share them through smb or whatever and then launch them on the xbox?
thx,
dylanno no no no no no and no. this has been discussed lots of times..no, it's not possible and off-topic (note that it will never be implemented into xbmc code either), see that discussion here (link) (http://www.xboxmediaplayer.de/cgi-bin/forums/ikonboard.pl?act=st;f=11;t=1730)
thanks for the link, i will try that later when i get home. now seeing that this is the suggestions forum may i make a suggestion/request. let xbmc have 2 modes of playing dvds
mode 1 - it will only play the movie, no menus, no extras.
mode 2 - xbmc will launch the dvd in its entirety menus and all options included
mode 1 can also have a feature like dvd queing, where u can que dvd's to play back to back. so for example you could play all 3 lotr or matrix movies back to back without neededing to do anything. mode 2 u would need to "mount" each dvd you wanted to play manually. now is that possible with any upcommnig versions of xbmc?
Gamester17
2004-05-24, 12:02
mode 1 - it will only play the movie, no menus, no extras.
mode 2 - xbmc will launch the dvd in its entirety menus and * all options includedlike we said before, what you call "mode 1" is already possible, and since your "mode 2" is an existing request merging your posts with it.
ps! please respect the forum rules and read our faq's. search forum before posting and only one topic per thread for management, thx
i made a backup of one of my dvd's, but i cant get into the dvd's main menu. (the place you can choose audio settings, extras, play etc, yes i know i can switch this manually in xbmc playback, but i want to get into the main menu).
1.is it possible?
does there exist any program that can do this?
2.i used dvd2box when i made the backup, but it didn't compress anything. does there exist any program that can compress the audio/video when ripping from the xbox's dvd player into the xbox hd?
i would be thankfull if someone could answer these questions :)
dvd2xbox only extracts the vob files of the dvd's. as of yet there is no program to reconstruct the dvd with workable menus on the xbox and i would say there will never be.
hi!
wouldn't it be nice if the xbox reacted like a dvd player when you put in a dvd? i really like xbmc but the fact that it doesn't play the dvd menu is a really sad in my opinion.
good work anyway * :)
use the ms dash, and all the menus will be there
Gamester17
2004-06-08, 12:25
soon we'll have to start warn/punish people who don't search before posting, must have merged 20 posts into this one :angry:
DarkVamp
2004-06-09, 14:48
use the ms dash, and all the menus will be there
hi,
is it possible to link to the ms dashboard from xbmc (in the settings xml) to play dvd from the xbmc ???
is the original ms dvd player cabable to play dvd's from other regions ? (region free!)
Gamester17
2004-06-09, 17:08
is it possible to link to the ms dashboard from xbmc (in the settings xml) to play dvd from the xbmc ???yes, see xboxmediacenter.xml (ex; <dvdplayer>c:\xboxdash.xbe</dvdplayer> to load ms dash, or you can load xecuter's dvdx 2.0).
(note that this will unload xbmc when start the dvd-video, a reboot is required when you finnish, please address other q in support)
is the original ms dvd player cabable to play dvd's from other regions ? (region free!)if you have a modchip then yes, but you still require a dvd-remote. xecuter's dvdx 2.0 don't use dvd-remote and is region-free too.
ps! do not ask us where to find xecuter's dvdx 2.0 as it's a xdk binary. please address support questions in correct forum (support).
make it possible to mount images of dvd-movies which should make it possible to use the menus, subtitles and so on.
make use of virtual drives and then unmount again when you stop the movie. shouldn't that be possible?
Gamester17
2004-06-21, 17:50
make it possible to mount images of dvd-movies which should make it possible to use the menus, subtitles and so on.why oh why(?!) don't people search before posting! :angry: xbmc can already "mount" dvd-video images, but don't support menus yet
JMSaucisse
2004-06-30, 05:26
this is the first time i try to watch a retail dvd movie in media center but have used several versions of the app before. when i put in the dvd and select "play dvd" from the menu, the movies starts playing bypassing the dvd movie menu which would alow me to watch special features, scene selection, etc. is there a way to have media center start playing the dvd at the begining of the disk showing the fbi warning, watch the movie intro and then bring me to the dvd movie menu where i can choose what to watch ? also, i have the ms dvd remote, i notice that when i press the menu button on the remote, it opens the media center menu. is there a way for it to bring me to the actual dvd menu from the remote (have the remote function as it would in the ms dash)?
thanks for the help, hope this makes sense
please do a search before posting a question, esp one that has been answered lots of times before....
anyway...
xbmc does not at this moment support menus when playing dvd's. if you want to watch the special features etc you will need to either launch a seperate dvd player such as ms dashboard or dvdx. this can be launched from "my programs" or you can change the "dvdplayer" tag in xboxmediacenter.xml file so that when you press "play dvd" it will automatically launch the other program.
Archalien
2004-07-14, 06:37
so i have decss'd movie on my computer, when i play the movie on xbmc by picking video_ts.ifo or a vob file it starts the movie from the beginnig, and i am unable start the dvd to go to the dvd's main menu.
am i missing something? ive done plenty of searching with no luck, is this possible?
this also happens on powerdvd if you try to play a movie as a media file, but if u select play dvd from hdd all you have to do is select the video_ts folder and it plays the dvd normally. which seems to mirror what ive been attempting with xbmc.
any help would be greatly appreciated!!
archalien
you must have useed odd search terms because this question has been answered about 40 times. right now there is no dvd menu support.
Archalien
2004-07-14, 07:09
thankyou
when searching a forum sometimes luck is involved, apparently i had none
you must have useed odd search terms because this question has been answered about 40 times. right now there is no dvd menu support.
40 times??? you are under exaggerating here.. it was answered way more than that.
ts
Gamester17
2004-07-14, 12:06
when searching a forum sometimes luck is involved, apparently i had nonetwo possible reasons why you didn't found anyting; you only searched in the support-forum and/or you did not search from "the beginning"
the dvd menu thing is here almost daily.
:idea: maybe xbmc should have a splash screen that says no dvd menu support, and gives some pointers about configuring smb too. it could cut forum questions by as much as 50%
the dvd menu thing is here almost daily. *
:idea: maybe xbmc should have a splash screen that says no dvd menu support, and gives some pointers about configuring smb too. *it could cut forum questions by as much as 50%
maybe pin this thread and add a little something like "not available" to it? just like the codecs req thread.
hi there..
is there any development in playing the dvd menues in xbmc?
keep up the good work ;)
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sorry for making new topic. i did search. but didn't find this thread. i knew that this feature wasn't supported, but only wanted to know that if anyone is doing something about it..
now i know the answer. thanks
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Gamester17
2004-08-30, 18:23
http://www.xboxmediacenter.de/info_faq.htm#dvd_menusq: i did not get up any dvd-menu on my dvd-video, does xbmc support dvd-menus at all?
a: guess you did not read all above q&a's like instructed?!; then again, if a feature/function or format/codec is not listed on the xbmc project page (link) (http://www.xboxmediacenter.de/info_project.htm#point_release) then it is not supported by xbmc! but we will clarify the answer to this specific question here (since asked so many times); no, xbox media center does not yet have any support for dvd-menus, (nor dvd-chapters either).
ok, now pinning/sticking this thread, if anyone else post the same question in a new thread and you will get your warning level increased!
why doesnt it shows up ??
will it be supported in further versions ??
search - very common question.
Gamester17
2004-10-06, 12:47
menu in dvd movies
why doesnt it shows up ??if you just made an effort in searching (forum rule!) or even just read our faq (http://www.xboxmediacenter.com/info_faq.htm#dvd_menus) you would have found the answer right away.
i'm so sick of people creating new forums topics just to ask this question before looking i'm going to you an official warning!
note! this is the first warning we ever given to someone for not following the forum rules, not reading the faq or searched.
SerpentDrago
2004-10-24, 02:41
ok while playing a dvd in xbmc , how do i move around the menus on the dvd ? do i have to use the remote? all the dpads will do is just ff or rewind ?
Hullebulle
2004-10-24, 03:31
1. rule: search the forum. :p
Gamester17
2004-10-24, 13:25
ok while playing a dvd in xbmc , how do i move around the menus on the dvd ?if you just made a little effort and searched or even just read our faq (http://www.xboxmediacenter.com/info_faq.htm#dvd_menus) you would have found the answer right away. warning given!
note! this is only the second warning we ever given to someone for not following the forum rules, not reading the faq or searched.
greenmile
2004-10-29, 18:58
yes, this would be great and all, but realistically, people won't want to rip 7gb dvds to their hd to stay, it's not practical. how about a ripping program for xbox that automatically encodes into xvid or divx?
yes, this would be great and all, but realistically, people won't want to rip 7gb dvds to their hd to stay, it's not practical. how about a ripping program for xbox that automatically encodes into xvid or divx?
speak for yourself, greenmile. the ability to play full, "lossless" dvd's ripped to my media server is a major use case i have for xbmc. hd space is cheap; at $.50/gig, 500-1000g of storage space is a small price to pay to have all of my dvds available from xbmc in a menu-driven interface. i'd eventually like to remove my physical dvd player altogether from my home entertainment setup, and rely solely on my receiver and my xbox. it's almost there.
CodePoet
2004-10-30, 02:13
me too.
does anyone know if the upcoming ms media center package will allow playing dvds w/ menu support over the network from an .iso?
the day microsoft allows any iso's or img's whatsoever, is the day xbmc will run on an unmodded (soft or hard) xbox
n e v e r (and you can take this to the bank)
i'm probably setting myself up for a bashing but i fear i've missed something: what's wrong with configuring xboxmediacenter.xml to use "c:\xboxdash.xbe" as your default dvd player?
this is what i've always done (albeit with a patched copy of region-free xboxdash.xbe) and i haven't been disappointed so far.
:)
Gamester17
2004-11-03, 16:39
i'm probably setting myself up for a bashing but i fear i've missed something: *what's wrong with configuring xboxmediacenter.xml to use "c:\xboxdash.xbe" as your default dvd player? *
this is what i've always done (albeit with a patched copy of region-free xboxdash.xbe) and i haven't been disappointed so far.that's been one of our own big arguments (that and how hard and huge task it is) why we not implemented it sooner into xbmc.
basically msdash dvd-player (and all various hacks of it) have some big limitations:
- msdash dvd-player can only (after patched) output 480p hdtv resolution, (while xbmc can do 480p, 720p and 1080i upscaling).
- msdash dvd-player can only play dvd's from the dvd-rom drive, (xbmc can play of dvd, hdd and network, even from iso/img)
- msdash dvd-player can only pass-through dts, (xbmc can pass-through or decode it in software for ac3 or analog-stereo out).
- msdash dvd-player can only play subs that come with the dvd, (xbmc can use/display example .srt or separate vobsub too).
- msdash dvd-player don't have the many zoom options xbmc has.
...and there are probebly more big limitations in msdash dvdplayer or benifits in open sourced xbmc that i can't think of right now.
AbRASiON
2004-11-22, 13:38
gamester, while all this is true, sometimes (specifically watching tv series on dvd, rather than movies) the menu's would be really handy.
i use a pal xbox with a mod chip in ntsc mode and the hd pack in progressive scan - problem is to my knowledge dvdx2 won't run this in progressive and xbmc _still_ don't support dvd menu's - it's really a big feature to be missing after all this time :(
xboxofniet
2004-11-23, 16:12
hi all,
in deed it is a great missing option, but i'm sure this option would be available in the future. i'll think those people who created xbmc and constantly developing this great program are doing a wonderfull job!!
keep up the good work!
greetz from holland
count me in for $25 to the dvd menu donation.
i think a good feature would the ability to turn off dvd menu support. i kind of like just going straight to the film sometimes. :kickass:
the day microsoft allows any iso's or img's whatsoever, is the day xbmc will run on an unmodded (soft or hard) xbox
n e v e r (and you can take this to the bank)
well, i'm not sure if i misunderstood you, but i'm currently able to play dvd isos and imgs over the lan on my xp mce 2005 using daemon tools. it works great, and as far as i've been able to read on the mce forums this setup works just fine over a media center extension as well, as long as the dvd is decrypted.
well, i'm not sure if i misunderstood you, but i'm currently able to play dvd isos and imgs over the lan on my xp mce 2005 using daemon tools. it works great, and as far as i've been able to read on the mce forums this setup works just fine over a media center extension as well, as long as the dvd is decrypted.
i dont understand why you felt necessary to post this, because a mounted image is not an image :shocked:
i dont understand why you felt necessary to post this, because a mounted image is not an image :shocked:
semantics in my opinion. i see your point, but it doesn't really seem relevant in real life.
i think the relevance here is that in xbmc you'll be able to select any iso or img and it will start to play the dvd. you would not need to mount it on another pc to play it - one step removed and imho makes the whole process a lot easier to manage. ymmv of course.
i think the relevance here is that in xbmc you'll be able to select any iso or img and it will start to play the dvd. you would not need to mount it on another pc to play it - one step removed and imho makes the whole process a lot easier to manage. ymmv of course.
that is of course absolutely true. it's gonna be great the day when xbmc can boast about full dvd support, and i for one are looking forward to it.
now if you could just stream live tv from the xp mce computer in the computer room life would be close to perfect... ;)
equate975
2004-12-06, 23:19
hi, ive been using xbmc for a long time and i just love it. one thing i would like to be able to do is play my dvd iso files, or not even in the iso format but browse to a folder with all the vob files and menu files and be able to play the menu and have it act like a regular dvd.
maybe, could you do a virtual dvd drive? what i do a lot is mount my dvd iso images in daemon tools then share the virtual drive, and network it to my xbox and play the vobs over the network.
maybe a feature thats a "dvd drive" but you type in what you want to play, so like either "f:\movies\somedvdfoler\dvd.iso" and it will treat it as a dvd drive.
thanks
ever tried playing one of those .iso files directly?
works like a charm (although i think they have to be named .img). at least as good as dvd playback in xbmc is right now (no menu support, only title 1)
and you can just select the .ifo file for dvd directory playback
Gamester17
2004-12-07, 12:00
browse to a folder with all the vob files and menu files and be able to play the menu and have it act like a regular dvdif you just made an effort in searching (forum rule!) or even just read our faq (http://www.xboxmediacenter.com/info_faq.htm#dvd_menus) you would have found the answer right away.
i'm so sick of people creating new forums topics just to ask this question before looking i'm going to you an official warning!
(we now have to merge your post into the existing feature suggestion thread on the topic, please read this whole thread).
ps! iso parsing is already supported by xbmc, again if you just searched and read the faq before posting you know this! :bomb:
matt11601
2004-12-15, 18:01
glad to hear you guys are getting closer to getting dvd menus working fully. because of that i think i may start using my xbox to watch dvd's when i used to rely on my traditional dvd player. with that said, i was wondering if it were possible to have a thumbnail or listing of a dvd in the "my video" section (this may could be a small file much like default.tbn) then when the user selects the dvd movie, xbmc will open the dvd drive tray and promp the user to put the dvd in. i have a lot of dvd's and watch them over and over again from time to time so i think this would be a great feature. the xbmc would "know" to prompt the user by the contents of that small file, whereever it may reside. it could reside in f:\movies or anywhere on the network. what do you guys think?
-matt
ok, i know this topic is old but i have read the entire thread.
some people hinted to the question i wanted to ask but never quite got it right. can something like daemon tools be written so that a virtual dvd player exists on the xbox making the ms dvd player (or some other software player) think the mounted iso is a local dvd drive? wouldn't that allow local and networked iso's to be used and still have the full dvd player capabilities (ie. dvd menu's)?
i can't see doing the development\port of an xbox virtual iso mounter and still have xbmc add xine and dvd nav support. makes no sense, one has to be choosen and worked on. i agree that this is one of the most important abilities the xbox should have.
to that end...
i'm an expert programmer... ok all programmers think that, don't they? i've been programming in c\c++ for close to 20 years. i'm not as fast as some of the younger folk but i'm thorough and (usually) fairly bug free. i wouldn't mind working on some aspect of the dvd menu problem. the problem is, i'm a little out of my relm here. i currently have no programming knowledge of codecs, dvd rendering or even xbox .xbe creation. i'm sure i can figure out how to obtain the programming environment. what's next?
by the way, i will eventually be known as bjammer as soon as the name is released. i registered with that name but did a type-o on the email address. i guess the name will eventually become available again once no confirmation is sent.
jmarshall
2004-12-19, 19:20
welcome, btemp/bjammer
xbox only has a single process running at once, so no, unless the daemon tools stuff is done within the bios, i doubt a hack can be had for the present dvd players available.
however, the xbmc team is currently working on a dvd player solution, so there's no need for others to spend time on it.
i suggest if you wish to help out the project, then you obtain the sources and dev environment and have a go at adding something that you think would be useful. i can give you ideas if you don't have any :p
cheers,
jonathan
thanks jonathan, that makes sense.
i guess i should now be posting to the developer thread but since i have your attention...is this xbmc team a closed-knit group? i would suppose that only they are allowed to post an update and that the contributors code is first scrutinized by the team. do you know how it all works?
jmarshall
2004-12-19, 20:48
yes, we are a closed group.
the usual route is for prospective developers to create patch(s) that are then checked by the team. invitations to join the team are then issued if/when we consider you are ready for a position on the team.
your best plan is to grab the source and get to know it. a few devs hang out in the irc channel #xbmc on efnet, so you can ask any questions you have there, and if any of us are around, i'm sure they'll help you as they have time.
cheers,
jonathan
is there any other mediaapps like xbmc that can play dvd movies with menus while i'm waiting for the support in xbmc?
i know that ms dash and the evox player can do it, but i want to stream the dvd from my pc using smb... and what i know, evox and ms dash can only play from a disc!?
dvdx2 also plays dvd's with menu's. no remote support though. i could be wrong, but i don't think it supports streaming.
dvdx2 also plays dvd's with menu's. *no remote support though. *i could be wrong, but i don't think it supports streaming.
it doesn't.
BritneysPAIRS
2005-01-16, 22:16
hacked dvdx2 does play everything with remote or keypad but is buggy, out of 50 dvd i tryed 4 or so didnt boot.
new uix plays everything but patch it so keyboard is mapped correctly :)
how do you go about hacking dvdx2 so it has remote support?
Gamester17
2005-01-17, 15:22
how do you go about hacking dvdx2 so it has remote support?
wrong thread and wrong forum, please ask that over at xbox-scene.com (http://forums.xbox-scene.com) instead
hi
was wondering if anyone can help.
can xbmc display the menus like a proper dvd player or dvd region x?
i've looked all over the net but can't seem to find the answer.
if i select the play dvd option the main movie is played back.
there's a problem if i try to play tomb raider 2 as the first screen is to select the language before it goes into the main dvd. it works fine under dvd region x, and the in built xbox dvd player.
if xbmc can't do this, then it's one feature which lets the product down, i'm really happy with everything else it can do.
many thanks
we have one quite important rule on this forum, and that is to always search before asking stupid questions. :evil: (same nice red avatar as you use)
tip: search from beginning and use 'and' between keywords
ssjtrunks585
2005-01-27, 15:06
what i would like to see is maybe just an option in settings or something about a default dvd player. that way, when someone clicks "play dvd", xbmc will hand control over to the defaulted program (ms dvd player, dvdx, etc...)
this has prolly been mentioned before, and if so, this is me seconding it.
hmm? ever opened xboxmediacenter.xml in an editor? <dvdplayer> tag does just that!
dashboard avalaunch has a built-in dvd player that supports menu and hdtv. is there anything that can be re-used for the xbmc development? source code or development experience?
jmarshall
2005-01-28, 22:16
avalaunch dvdplayer is using the same leaked code as dvd-x, dvd-x2, and all other dvd playing software for xbox. no way we can use that code - it's copyrighted.
there will be an opensource alternative (the xbmc dvdplayer!) available, but it will take a while to get it stable enough.
cheers,
jonathan
BritneysPAIRS
2005-01-30, 01:07
recommend uix untill xbmc supports plays all regions with or without remote but get patch for keys so you have left right up down on controller
its 100 megs though
toolwerx
2005-02-01, 06:18
uix? is that a new dash?
stoffmann
2005-02-11, 22:29
this would be a really cool feature.
who is working on the feature? any news of progress to share?
los93sol
2005-02-15, 04:43
w00t! initial release now in cvs! :kickass: it says not to try it yet because it is still in early alpha stages, but nevertheless, it is there. congradulations to the developers who have been working on this for so long! i am going to have to go ahead and try it because i have been waiting for a solution for my dx-1480, and you guys have initiated the solution. can't wait to see if it will work, or just how alpha this release is. either way, this is a serious accomplishment and is sure to be a great addition to xbmc! :bowdown:
w00t! *initial release now in cvs! * :kickass: * (snip...)
yay!!! this indeed rox! even though it's alpha. :thumbsup:
does this means compiling the new csv with the xbmcdbr batchfile will make this work (beside emptying the <dvdplayer> tag) or do i need to enable it somehow/somewhere?
besides the noise the msdash/xboxdash produces (fan-wise) it sucks in every other way possible, so /me loves to give this a testride!
cheers
cacti
Gamester17
2005-02-28, 09:51
...or do i need to enable it somehow/somewhere?must be enabled somehow/somewhere, i'm not at liberty to tell how, hence the "don't even try it yet" statement :p ...devs will figure it out for themselves quite easily
must be enabled somehow/somewhere, i'm not at liberty to tell how, hence the "don't even try it yet" statement :p ...devs will figure it out for themselves quite easily
thanks for the tip! :o
any developments here?
it's been a month since it first appeared in cvs.
it's been what... 2 years since this thread started?
might as well stop developing this and get ready for xbox 2!
rjeeves33
2005-04-10, 00:28
hi
firstly please don't abuse me - i know xbmc doesn't yet handle menus :). i have currently changed the xbmc xml file to point towards my copy of dvdx v2 dongless version but this only appears to play dvd from the dvd drive & not a folder. i was wondering how other xbmc users deal with playing a ripped dvd from a folder on the hard disk without taking a lucky dip when choosing and .ifo or .vob file and playing from within xbmc.
i saw on a forum that one recommendation is to use dvd shrink but i am reall looking for an xbox only solution that doesn't require recoding as i only plan to watch the flick once and delete so space isn't really an issue.
thanks
there are no other solutions other that what you already know.
since you want an xbox solution only all you can do is rip with dvd2xbox and play with xbmc by selecting the .ifo files.
that's it.
however your topic title suggests you want a method to play with menu suppoprt, yet you yourself mention that you know it's not possible. so i'm a little confused. your asking how to do something you yourself already know isn't possible?
rjeeves33
2005-04-10, 00:49
thanks for a quick response. you input is greatly appreciated. *i also appreciate the the last part. *i thought i had posted without opening myself to sarcasm but yet again experianced posters just can't resist having a dig at those with less experiance.
to clarrify i am using xbmc as my dash and launching apps using the menu system provided by xbmc. *my post was requesting a way of playing a dvd from a folder with a menu whilst knowing it is not possible using the built in player of xbmc. *i was clearly looking for a solution to this problem and was hoping for possible solutions, perhaps an app i was not aware or a trick in dvdx i didn't know. *hope this cleared up the confusion i caused. *:d
los93sol
2005-04-10, 02:46
wow bandit, 1 post and what a post it was! the whole xbox 2 issue is another debate altogether, but the devs do this for free, people chose to donate to support this particular feature and if you are such hot shit why don't you deliver on the goods yourself? seriously, don't press the envelope because they do not have to do it at all!
ah i get you. i was just a trifle confused by your post ;) sometimes it can be hard to tell exactly how much experience someone has. to elaborate a little more, unfotunately there are no other apps available that can play dvd movies ripped either to image format or vob sets with menus, at least not from the hard drive. there is a pre-alpha verison of a dvd player in xbmc right now that can do it, just not very well. it's also disabled by default. i'm also not allowed to tell you how to enable it since it's such an early verison the devs don't want people using it. i've tried it and honestly the drawbacks (depending on your setup) heavily outweigh it's usefullness right now. hopefully it won't be too much longer before it gets a little more work done on it so that using it becomes much more feasible.
rjeeves33
2005-04-11, 02:01
thanks for info. i look forward to future developments with the dvd player app. i still have trouble accepting that xbmc is free and totally awsome yet ms expect you to pay to 'extend' a stock xbox. lol
i would love to see something like the "my movies" plugin for mce2005 for xbmc:-
http://www.binnerup.dk/mce/mymovies.htm
http://joestest.uuhost.uk.uu.net/movies.jpg
headrat
after becoming used to the project mayhem iii skin, it makes mce2005's ui design look oh so dated.
xbmc is truly an outstanding piece of work. we're all eagerly awaiting the prince's crowning, though.
hi,
changelog of cvs 2005-04-15 says ;
updated: libdvdnav.dll and libdvdcss-2.dll with support for largefiles (>2gb, using our custom headers)
then, what is that mean exactly 'using our custom headers' ?
thank you !
don't care about it too much.. it's just a comment for ourself.. plus you won't have any use for it yet anyway as those dlls are only used for the new dvdplayer (which btw isn't ready for release just yet)
new dvd player? :kickass: i can't wait! you guys rock. no rush on the release. just excited!
any status on the pending release of the dvdplayer?
any status on the pending release of the dvdplayer?
i have no idea about that. but i can say that i think it works better then i expected when i tried it yesterday.
and there was some activity some days ago on the dvd player dll files. but there are still some way to go i think. (i'm no developer so i realy don't know.)
edit:
please no requests asking how to enable it. find it yourself or wait. i won't help you.
thank you for reply.
very exciting hear about new dvd player !!!
thanks.
Ondjultomte
2005-04-30, 12:38
i cant wait until we get fully functionallity of playing dvd movies from .img (ripps) from hdds ...right now 60-70% of all dvd-r's are working ... so i only have to burn a few of 'em. saves time and effort! :)
HarshReality
2005-04-30, 20:39
1/2 the fun of cvs.... i think i figured out this riddle (same as others i shant comment on it as there will be no wine before its time) but unless i'm mistaken i can solve that tune in one file.... got to compile and try this out.
i stand corrected, i truely am a dumbshyte
who wants to bet that the first version of dvd menu support within xbmc will be made available in cvs on may 12th ???
can't let the xbmc guys feel left out. i'm sure they want to unveil dvd menus as much as ms wants to unveal xbox360.
<sorry for spoiling the surprise>
:evil:
smokeman
2005-05-12, 18:53
that's today...
haven't heard anything :-)
total_ass
2005-05-17, 00:19
looking forward to the dvd player.
is this going to support pal-60 playback like mplayer does now? no other dvd players for the xbox at the moment support pal-60hz.
hades_2100
2005-05-31, 22:08
could someone please provide an update?
thank you!
hades
from the changelog:
mon may 30
reverted: aspectratio change in dvdplayer (original solution was much better) + added aspectratio override from dvd ifo files.
fixed: some frames where missed when navigating in dvd menus. (only partial fix, still problems)
mon may 23
23-05-2005 changed: cleaned up video renderers + merged the interface for mplayer + dvdplayer.
mon may 16
fixed: dvdplayer would be very jumpy after a seek (somewhat better now)
fixed: playtime and totaltime were reported wrongly in dvdplayer
...etc...etc
http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs....iew=log (http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/xbmc/xbmc/changelog.txt?rev=1.979&view=log)
yes, pal60 vill be supported. actually much is working in the player, there are just a couple of major bugs we'd like to crush. quite a few menus doesn't display properly for example.
good things come to those who wait :)
total_ass
2005-06-01, 21:25
can't wait :)
as there are no other ways of playing region 1 dvds properly on a region 2 xbox without constantly changing between pal and ntsc.
pal-60 and xbmc rule :)
DayWalker
2005-06-01, 22:56
great to hear the development is moving along nicely.
1 question though: are there still problems with the new dvdplayer working on samsung drives?
greetzzzz
aaactually.. there seem to be a problem on all drives for the moment.. think i f-d that up a while back. only works after having played it once using mplayer.. however if mplayer works on samsung drives, it's likely the new dvdplayer will
BritneysPAIRS
2005-06-02, 04:10
i take there is no eta eg like next few weeks, next few months, quite a while away....
i know just thought id ask :blush:
hades_2100
2005-06-02, 17:13
thank you anomaly... that much i knew. :) it doesn't really mean anything since as elupus said, he created a few problems which don't seem to show up in the changelogs... :) i was asking more along the lines of whether positive progress is being made and when an initial/alpha release is expected. thanx,
hades
@hades_2100: no worries. i have no idea. the reason i put up the changelog is that it was proposed (by me) that at a minimum, someone would copy the changelog here for those that don't know where to look or how to read it. anyway, since no-one posts updates i took it upon myself to do it. that way the questions about eta are kept to a minimum.
the problems elupus mentioned above won't appear inthe changelog until they are fixed. it's not a bug list.
a warning to others asking about the "release" date: certain moderators here get _very_ antsy about people that ask. save yourself the pain of reading posts directing you to "write the damn dvd player yourself" etc etc etc etc :rolleyes: and just be happy to look at the changelog occasionally.
it will happen eventually. (insert required appeasment to the dev-gods)
Kjetil N
2005-06-10, 00:53
i wanted to test the new dvdplayer so i did some searching in the cvs and figured out how to activate it.
i know it's not suposed to work propperly yet, so i did this only for fun.
i removed some // in a file and entered "_censored by pike_"
in the xboxmediacenter.xml file under external dvd player.
is this all needed? ore am i missing something.
kjetil, notice that censorship? try and get around it and i will ban you, be aware
just another update from the changelog...
sun jun 5
fixed: dvdplayer would fail to play from scrambled disc untill mplayer had once played it
sun jun 5
fixed: minor crash fix when switching between gui and fullscreen
thu jun 2
fixed: dvdplayer would crash if ttfsubtitle fonts where selected
changed/fixed: moved videobuffer handling from inside libmpeg2 to xbmc, fixes some menu's where highlight didn't work.
smokeman
2005-06-10, 22:32
kjetil, notice that censorship? try and get around it and i will ban you, be aware
is censorship really needed?
we know it is not officially released yet, so he was just experimenting.
total_ass
2005-06-10, 23:18
yeah there is nothing wrong with people who are able to enable it doing so.
but he was posting how to enable it to others and the whole reason why it is disabled at the moment is becuase the xbmc do not feel it is ready and won't enable it until they feel it is.
papabong
2005-06-11, 10:38
kjetil, notice that censorship? try and get around it and i will ban you, be aware
is censorship really needed?
we know it is not officially released yet, so he was just experimenting.
i also think that censorship and warnings about banning are not necessary here.
HarshReality
2005-06-11, 17:24
we gotta remember here folks, developers have a mindset all their own. it defies reason, emotion and most times common sense. anything seen outside what they have it made to do at this momment is reguarded as an attack.
**no offense to dev, just an observation from here as well as several other locations on the web.
[Whitey]
2005-06-18, 05:28
let me start off i love xbmc its just amazing and i thank you guys for all the hard work...my only question is ...does it plan on having menu support anytime soon? why im asking is some movies play subs by default and without the menu i cant turn them off....also i watch alot of tv series dvds...and since its split into episodes i can only watch the first i cant get to the other episodes..once the first is done it just goes back to xbmc.....so just wondering if there working on it?
thanks a bunch
internal dvdplayer (http://www.xboxmediaplayer.de/cgi-bin/forums/ikonboard.pl?act=st;f=2;t=13471)
see the above topic for using the existing internal dvdplayer-with no menus, but you can use that or several alternate options.
yes they are working on a dvdplayer with menus.
also you can easily turn subs on and off. press the title button on the remote. don't remember what button it is on the controller but iit's there, plug and play.
[Whitey]
2005-06-18, 06:19
ah nice one man..thanks for the reply
Hullebulle
2005-06-18, 13:19
yeah there is nothing wrong with people who are able to enable it doing so.
but he was posting how to enable it to others and the whole reason why it is disabled at the moment is becuase the xbmc do not feel it is ready and won't enable it until they feel it is.
ofcourse he is free and welcome to try the new dvdplayer if he figured out how to enable it. we only try to limit the amount of ppl who try the dvdplayer to those who know what they are doing (and they do cause they figured out how to enable it in the code) and beeing clever enough not to start bugreports or feature suggestions for it untill its beta.
you know that we will have alot of senseless postings if we would release this buggy version of a dvdplayer now. :d
thats why we doesn't want the info on how to enable it to be public right now.
project manager, i understand your position on the release methodology. the status of xbmc has been hard earnt with the sweat of many coders, for free. such a thing is not easily gained and i offer nothing but my sincere admiration for the people involved.
yes this is the number one feature request, but look at how far a group of dedicated spirits have taken this....look at how far this has gone and look at what m$ has done in comparison....meh, xbmc creamed m$
sorry, but i havent't been up to date at all with this dvd-feature, but still, maybe someone nice can answer :)
this whole dvd-project thing, what can you do when it is done? maybe a list of concrete things you developers are trying to solve(maybe there already is :) link plz?) thus making it easier considering a donation
my big question is, can you watch .img-files directly from within xbmc?
my big question is, can you watch .img-files directly from within xbmc?
you can already do this. but mplayer which is currently use in xbmc for dvd playback doesn't support menus. it will only play the main movie. you get no menus at all.
the new dvd core is a proper dvd player with full menu support.
you'll be able to playback dvd's with menus from both .img files and from video_ts folders. plus as with all other files you'll be able to stream them over smb from your pc.
HarshReality
2005-06-26, 08:21
irony: i figured out the enable part (no i wont bother details) but i get the thing compiled... go in to upload and much to my suprise... we had a lightning storm that took out my box's network adapter. it seems there are more who want this to remain under wraps until official release than just the devs lol
is it true that you can only have thumbnails generated for your movies using the internet movie database (imdb) cataloguing service if you have created a single file (i.e. avi or divx)? *can you use this feature (thumbnails and metadata) if you have a folder with dvd files? *i hate file compression...
how can i copy a entire dvd (including menus, extra material etc) to the xbox harddrive and then play it back like it was playing from the dvd drive. ie. the menu loading etc.
what i want to be able to do it save each dvd in a folder and then just select that to start it playing or select one file that loads the menu. is this possible and how would i do it?
thanks for any help..
use dvd shrink (http://www.dvdshrink.org/where.html) to reauthor the dvd (only select the main movie) and create an iso file (an zip like file that puts all of the uncompressed dvd files in one file). name the file appropriately (starwars.iso) and you will be able to add the appropriate thumbnail in xbmc. it will be just like putting the dvd in and selecting play. hope that helps.
use dvd shrink (http://www.dvdshrink.org/where.html) to reauthor the dvd (only select the main movie) and create an iso file (an zip like file that puts all of the uncompressed dvd files in one file). name the file appropriately (starwars.iso) and you will be able to add the appropriate thumbnail in xbmc. it will be just like putting the dvd in and selecting play. hope that helps.
i currently use dvd shrink and most of the time i only every select the main movie using the reauthor tab. my normal process is to the burn the video_ts folder to a dvd-r.
so how so i create an iso that i can play on the xbmc?
you should be able to play the video_ts folder from xbmc.
to make an iso with dvd shrink you need to change the backup settings to make an iso, can`t remember the settings exactly
(i`m not in front of my own computer) but trust me they are there.
cheers b4tm4n.
edit : using dvd shrinks reauthor feature you lose menu functionality, which furio want to keep.
having browsed the forums i am aware that the clever chappies of xbmc are currently working on dvd playback of iso files with full menu capability. effectivly enabling xbmc to be used as a dvd jukebox. in fact i believe that this is already coded but not enabled as it isn't quite debugged yet.
my question is when will this be available? i appreciate you can't give me an exact date, but days? weeks? months?
an indication would be nice.
thanks.
first of all i am no xbmc developer. i tried the menu support and it feels very good already, also the number of changes concerning "dvdplayer" increased quite a bit in the last weeks.
i take that as a sign that it will be ready for prime time soon.
in the current state it could certainly be labeled "beta" but maybe the devs want to release it in a better-than-beta condition. it is their decision, for now i just use the beta which is good enough for me. if you also manage to enable it, don't send bug reports to xbmc devs.
well soon's not bad.
i have seen members being told off for asking how to enable this function and i suppose nobody'd going to let me into the secret but mybe someone could tell me if the answers in the xml file.
:pirate:
Gamester17
2005-07-20, 16:47
mybe someone could tell me if the answers in the xml fileno, it's not possible to simply enable it via any xml files, ...either you can read the code and thus figure out how to enable it yourself or you can't, no discussion!
PrvtBacon
2005-07-21, 19:04
hi, i'm new to this whole modding thing. i've come along way with the xbmc and am all but complete. other than i can't get to my dvd menus. it all works fine, its just that i don't seem to have a button that lets me get to them. if i play a dvd that goes stright to a menu then i have no way to navigate.
i have been using an xbox controller. i have a marantz rc5400 unversial controller that i have programed to work like the orginal ms xbox dvd remote.
the only good info i could find on the subject is this one! (http://www.xboxmediaplayer.de/cgi-bin/forums/ikonboard.pl?act=st;f=2;t=14141;hl=keymap.xml) however it is very brief. what i want to be able to do is, when playing a dvd via smb (iso image, renamed .img) to be able to access menus and navigate (ie. up, down, enter, back etc.) using my rc5400.
could somebody please post there working keymap.xml and i'll take it from there or just explain a little more on this code given in the above link:
<universalremote>
<obc6>parentdir</obc6>
</universalremote>
like, where it sits in the .xml and how i go about binding all the required keys to work. i think what i am asking for has something to do with the <window> tag but i'm a noob!
i don't want to hassel, so if somebody has got a ms xbox remote and has it working like i want it, just post the keymap.xml.
thanks for the help and the great freeware! keep fighting the good fight!
-bacon
:bowdown:
there is no internal dvdmenu support for public usage in xbmc yet
so it cannot be done!
hi there,
as far as i know, the dvdplayer.dll (plugin) is still buggie, but i'd like to test it out if possible.
i'm using the "pimped" version from the 20th of july but couldn't get it to work.
i've written in xbmc.xml "dvdplayer" as external dvd player but nothing happend.
can you tell me how its possible to activate and testing it?
thanx in advance,
jo
Gamester17
2005-07-22, 16:03
@jomagic, is it so hard to search before you post?!, (i'm giving you a warning anyway as sarching before you post is a forum rule). no, we we will not tell you how.
hi freinds :bowdown: ,
i can use the search button and i have done it but there is nothing really helpfull. so thanx for your warnings gamester17...
edit by pike: you sir, are an idiot
jomagic you say you can use the search button, but you haven`t even read this thread from begining to end, because if you had then you`d know why the devs "aren't leaving this code open".
b4tm4n.
@ june 17 2005,21:28)]let me start off i love xbmc its just amazing and i thank you guys for all the hard work...my only question is ...does it plan on having menu support anytime soon? why im asking is some movies play subs by default and without the menu i cant turn them off....also i watch alot of tv series dvds...and since its split into episodes i can only watch the first i cant get to the other episodes..once the first is done it just goes back to xbmc.....so just wondering if there working on it?
thanks a bunch
how do you rip you tv episode dvd's. xbmc supports statcking which would allow you to view them one right after the other. please check the xbmc documentation for more info. also if you rip a dvd movie and create a separate subtitle file. you have the option of turning it off at will using the osd menu.
i am desparate for this feature. do we have an approximate release date for this?
thanks
firstly - i must say the internal dvdplayer is incredible. i haven't come across any bugs yet.
my questions:
1) are(will) dvd menus be supported through .iso or video_ts? or just through real physical dvd's?
2) what are the keymap codes to jump to the title menu?
great progress on xbmc - now if only i could get the 3d aquarium screensaver
los93sol
2005-08-23, 05:26
mods: this post may be deemed inappropriate at this time, please edit/delete if necessary!
i know there are not supposed to be any bug reports on this yet since it is not public. however, i came across something and need confirmation from a dev or some guidance on how to debug this properly. my box is a dx-1480 with the upgraded processor and ram, i remember when the dvd player was started there was talk that it would bring dvd playback with menu's back to those of us who have these boxes. i have tried it a few times throughout the life of the dvd player and i am concerned there may be an incompatibility with these boxes. i say this because i have been testing the builds i have been compiling on the dx-1480 and a normal xbox, the normal xbox experiences smooth playback with no frames dropping. the dx-1480 is a different story though, same build, same dvd, even the same drive type (samsung), but it is dropping frames at an extremely rapid rate, about 10 frames a second, and the fps is very spurratic should be 29.9 but ranges from 19-35, sometimes even up to 45 fps. i am using xbmc at ntsc 4:3 if that helps at all. i have messed with the deinterlacing options and it doesn't help the situation. the main reason i am lead to believe it is a compatibility issue is that whenever i am using the dvd player everything lags, volume up/down is jumpy and stutters with playback, the osd is the same, very jumpy and jerky. everything else in xbmc works perfect on the dx-1480 this is only happening in the dvd player. if i need to do some more research into the issue, please let me know what i need to do and what info is needed, i tried turning the logging up, but it doesn't appear to produce much info for this issue. i have a debug environment already setup so i can run it through a proper debug if necessary. :)
regards,
los93sol
Gamester17
2005-08-23, 15:18
@los93sol, i don't think a devs looked on that side of it yet (through i'm not sure), i think a function like this needs to be added:
- software a/v sync clock (http://neuron2.net/library/mpeg2/iso138181.doc) (soft pll scr system clock (http://neuron2.net/library/mpeg2/iso138181.doc) like mplayer, so work with all cpu's, ei not like dvdx2.0/xboxdash),
* (a software pts/dts audio/video sync clock (http://neuron2.net/library/mpeg2/iso138181.doc) is important so audio/video syncronization (http://neuron2.net/library/mpeg2/iso138181.doc) will work on dreamx-1400 too).taken from this discussion thread (note! for developers/programmers only!): http://www.xboxmediaplayer.de/cgi-bin....t=10877 (http://www.xboxmediaplayer.de/cgi-bin/forums/ikonboard.pl?act=st;f=5;t=10877)
we are using a software based clock as far as i know.. the problem is that none of the devs have a dreambox so nobody can test it with one. i suppose there could be some timer we are using that is not software based, but i don't know which that could be.
elupus
los93sol
2005-08-23, 23:11
thank you for the responses, i can try to help find the issue with just a little guidance, or at least get some more detailed documentation of the problem. :)
i can do my best to help test on it, i have a debug environment already setup, but i am not sure if there is any way to produce something more solid in this case to narrow the problem. if there is anything i can do to help figure out what's happening, where, and why, please let me know.
regards,
los93sol
MrChris2000
2005-08-29, 13:16
guys,
in the 23/8 build, how do i get to a dvd root menu from the dvd player? at present although it is detecting 6 chapters it only plays the first one, i'd like to get to the episode selection screen and choose another... or just find out how to skip to the next chapter..
any help greatly appreciated.
MrChris2000
2005-09-01, 00:02
ill bump this just the once as i assume by then enough people will have seen it that should there be an answer someone would have posted it.
dvdroot ? thats dvdmenu's, we dont support dvdmenues yet
dvdroot ? thats dvdmenu's, we dont support dvdmenues yet
you say yet so how far away are we from supporting dvd menus.
btw xbmc is fantastic, great work guys.
:thumbsup:
Norm In Norman
2005-09-02, 18:49
if and when dvd menus are officially added, is there going to be the capability to play dvds with or without the menus without having to change an xml file first? i'd say 80% of the time i prefer not having menus. but if i'm watching something like seinfeld season 1 dvd, you pretty much can't watch it without menu navigation. i'd hate having to change an xml file and reboot all the time depending on what i'm going to watch. well, i'd obviously stick with the menus, but it would be really nice to have options.
also, if you keep the old way to play dvds in there, could you add chapter support? i've noticed that the aug 28 build shows a dialog when loading that says how many chapters are there, but i haven't been able to change chapters.
finally, let's say we find out that the menus for the original matrix dvd don't work quite right or that some of the videos in the menu for disney's sinbad look really choppy. would this be useful information for debugging purposes, or are there too many movies out there for stuff like this to be useful?
los93sol
2005-09-03, 23:52
well progress has been made on the dx-1480 compatibility whether it was intentional or not. the osd and infobars are now working at a fairly normal speed, they were horribly slow before. :) also the audio is now playing properly and does not get out of sync with the video as the movie plays. however the video is still stuttering, it's not showing very many dropped frames now, but it is still clearing dropping and not counting them. :hmm: overall, this is coming together very nicely, good work to all the dev's involved with it. one more note and i doubt this helps at all, but when i have the progressbar on the screen the time does not count steadily, and the seconds are rather eratic, a few seconds will go by at the proper rate then a few more seconds count very quickly and sometimes it even skips a few seconds then goes back to normal and it starts this sequence all over again. almost got it working as you technically could watch a dvd on a dx-1480 with it now but you might have a siezure from the eratic framerate. that's the only problem i see with playback on this box now, the framerate jumps around so much, but it keeps getting closer and closer. also sorry for bringing this up again as i know i really shouldn't be talking about it yet, but i figured since none of the dev's have one of these boxes it would be good for them to know it is closer to working properly on it. :d
regards,
los93sol
PrvtBacon
2005-09-04, 14:08
as dvd menu support is the number one requested feature (for all those who don't know, it is not supported in xbmc yet!) i started to think of ways that a dvd could be selected and used in a gui.
a feature that i'd like to see is something similar to what you see in hotels. perhaps you start in a genre menu, say you pick "action" and then it comes up with thumbs (using the folder.jpg method) and then i pick "walking tall" (which is an .iso renamed to an .img on my winxp file server) and then it comes to a screen that shows a large image of "folder.jpg" and provides a brief description of the movie (perhaps a description.txt in the dvd folder) and even the rating given on imdb (automatically retrieved and/or specified in description.txt for those who dont have access to the net or use in compatible naming conventions for the imdb service).
what do you guys think?
-bacon
post deleted and roar been banned forever!
nice first post...........not :lol:
not the best thing to post here i think ... i bet your post will be removed when a dev see it..
pvtbacon, this mostly exists today. once you scan your movie bookmarks, you can use the database views - title, genre, actor, year. go to genre, pick a genre, and you get a list of titles. then if you bring up the context menu and choose "movie info", you get the imdb information.
hi,
i know that xbmc doesn't support menu yet. but can it detect chapters in a dvd and sequence based on that instead of what i have right now which seem to be equally divided part of the dvd. the reason i need this is i have a music video and each song is a chapter, having xbmc sequence based on a equally divided part of the dvd didn't allow me to switch song that easily.
thanks.
RockDawg
2005-09-13, 05:00
i know that xbmc doesn't support menu yet.
it does now!!!!!!!!
Norm In Norman
2005-09-13, 05:15
i know that xbmc doesn't support menu yet.
it does now!!!!!!!!
yippie!!!!
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dvdplayer is public now, and is now enabled by default when playing dvd content
love the new dvdplayer!
i have a feature request: could you please make the media info display for the audio track in the same way that mplayer handled it (ie. codec, bitrate and channel number)?
Solo0815
2005-09-20, 20:06
iīm from germany. almost every time i play a dvd in the xbox (m$-dash and xbmc) the dvdmenu-language is english, http://www.xboxmediaplayer.de/forums/non-cgi/emoticons/cry.gif but i want to have it in german. i set the xbox-gameregion to europe and the m$-dash language to german. :verysad:
is there any way to select the default menu-language in xbmc like in standalone dvd-players? :help:
if i play the dvds on standalones or on the pc the menu language is german. there are also a few people in the german evo-x forums who have the same "problem".
@ mods:
if you think itīs a "feature-request", pls move it to the right forum
xbmc 12.09.05 t3ch
smartxx v2
thx
solo0815
Gamester17
2005-09-21, 09:15
@ mods: if you think itīs a "feature-request", pls move it to the right forummoving to the feature suggestion forum and the excisting topic thread for dvdplayer suggestions, ...you may post an official request on our sourceforge.net rfe-tracker if you want
thericky
2005-09-27, 16:31
right now, with the 9/21 build, my xbmc has the new native dvd player defaulted to play dvds as well as video_ts contents. however, when i navigate to a directory on my smb share in my videos and select a vob file, it defaults to using mplayer to play it back. mplayer is very choppy when playing these vobs back. when i use choose dvd player instead of mplayer in the play using... context menu, the vobs play fine.
how can i default all vob files to be played using dvd player instead of mplayer?
also, as a side note, how do i load a video playlist after i have saved it?
thanks!
how can i default all vob files to be played using dvd player instead of mplayer?
you need to modify the source code.
also, as a side note, how do i load a video playlist after i have saved it?
this is odd, i know, but it's going to change, i swear. at the moment, you need to load video playlists from the music playlists window.
thericky
2005-09-27, 19:31
how can i default all vob files to be played using dvd player instead of mplayer?
you need to modify the source code.
also, as a side note, how do i load a video playlist after i have saved it?
this is odd, i know, but it's going to change, i swear. *at the moment, you need to load video playlists from the music playlists window.
that is odd, but at least it's something for now.
as for the vobs, is there a reason why they don't already default to dvd player? are video_ts and iso the only things that currently default to dvd player?
finally, i also noticed that when i add a video_ts to the playlist, it adds not only the main ifo but also all the individual ifo files. is this necessary?
thanks again.
any chance the dvd player could remember the last position you were at whilst playing a dvd? it could either record the position every seconds whilst the dvd is playing, or when the user presses stop/menu. when that dvd is played again the gui could prompt you if you would like to start the dvd from the last stored position. my current dvd player does this and i think it's a great, but it only remembers the last 5 dvds or so.
whoami8505
2005-10-14, 20:03
any chance the dvd player could remember the last position you were at whilst playing a dvd? *it could either record the position every seconds whilst the dvd is playing, or when the user presses stop/menu. *when that dvd is played again the gui could prompt you if you would like to start the dvd from the last stored position. *my current dvd player does this and i think it's a great, but it only remembers the last 5 dvds or so.
i agree that feature should be added, it's much like the 'auto resume' or 'auto resume prompt' feature(s) of intervideo's windvd.
of course, it may be my fault for not testing before i reply, but i'm right now downloading the latest build. (what i mean is don't flame me if the feature has been integrated and i don't know...yet)
jmarshall
2005-10-18, 01:36
i'm not sure if this works with the dvd player yet, but you can press white on the movie that has previously been played, and choose "resume movie". it works with mplayer, and may have been done in the dvdplayer as well, although i suspect not.
the method for resuming will hopefully be made a bit better later on (eg popup window informing you when you start it playing)
cheers,
jonathan
BritneysPAIRS
2005-10-19, 05:54
maybe saving a book mark as well :), dont know if it works does on mplayer
my suggestions for the dvd video playback:
- auto stop when dvd is ejected!
- assign the same function of that new little dvd icon in the menu to the "title" button of the dvd remote controller.
- set interlaced handling to "auto select" by default or at least auto save that setting.
- add default regional settings configuration (for default audio/subtitles language).
imo, the auto resume function is great for the current dvd that is being played (when you stop it but don't remove the disc), but extremelly annoying when playing that dvd later. i mean, when i insert a dvd and start playing it i want it to go automatically to the dvd menu, not to the position of the movie where i left it last time... :no:
prob is that i receive from time to time a dvd from a guy at work. these are r1 dvd's, but with only english subs, or english impaired.
since i'm dutch speaking, i would like dutch subs.
what i do now is
- backup the dvd to hdd
- demux
- re-author with a subtitle file
- burn
which costs me an extra unnecessary disc.
it would be great if i could put in the dvd, and that i would be able to select either the subs on the disc itself or the subs on the folder specified in the xml-config.
this would require or manual selection of the subtitle (so you can select it from the ones available in the folder) or some automatching between the name of the dvd and the sub itself.
thank a lot
(didn't know if it should have been a feature request, please move if it should have been the case).
daxie
BlackFox
2005-11-12, 23:07
is there a chance to add closed captions decoder for this player? in mplayer this function not working anyway... i think it will be good because to many dvds without subtitles, but cc always there.
make it possible to have the dvdplayer to play ntsc movies in pal framrate 25f/s
just like mplayer can adjust framrate 23.97 f/s to 25 f/s on any xvid movie.
a ntsc 29.97 movie must be harder to adjust to 25.
/thx
just had to comment;
a ntsc 29.97 movie must be harder to adjust to 25.
you sir, should read read up on ivtc, and then come back and admit that's mostly untrue.. :)
just had to comment;
a ntsc 29.97 movie must be harder to adjust to 25.
you sir, should read read up on ivtc, and then come back and admit that's mostly untrue.. :)
so i can convert the 29.97 f/s movie with dvd2avi to 25f/s.
thatīs nice
but i want xbmc dvdplayer to play the 29.97 in 25f/s right away with no conveting, that must be hard to do.
just like xbmc mplayer do with 23.97f/s to 25f/s xvid movies
you can easily do ivtc realtime, thus converting telecined 29.97 movies to 23.98 which can then be fucked up by the helium nastiness that is adjust framerate..
ok.. so will this be in dvdplayer soon?
itīs not fun to play dvd with 23.97 or 29.97 f/s on a 50hz pal tv
have you seen this program http://reclock.free.fr/ it a must have if you watch movies on a computerscreen.
but i must say mplayer in xbmc is the best player to play 23.97 f/s movies in 25f/s very impressive playback :)
/thx
i don't know. but i'd say it's probably not very high on the dvd-plpayer todo list..
jamieslaptop
2005-12-18, 11:29
the who wants to be a millionaire dvd game doesnt work on the xbmc. it gets to the answer selection and wont let you choose anything, seems to be skipping from 0 seconds to 14 then back again. any one got any suggestions?
the who wants to be a millionaire dvd game doesnt work on the xbmc. it gets to the answer selection and wont let you choose anything, seems to be skipping from 0 seconds to 14 then back again. any one got any suggestions? have the dvd myself too and am aware of those problems. will be fixed sometimes i quess. first we need to get normal movies running ok.
how would i map the menu button on the remote to the dvd player's menu function? i can't figure it out from the keymap.xml file.
jmarshall
2006-01-06, 04:58
under the <fullscreenvideo> section, in the <remote> section, change the <menu> command to:
<menu>showvideomenu</menu>
cheers,
jonathan
when this is put into a release, will it be easy for the dvd playback capabilities to go back upstream into mplayer?
Gamester17
2006-01-11, 11:43
when this is put into a release, will it be easy for the dvd playback capabilities to go back upstream into mplayer?the full source code is in the cvs (http://sourceforge.net/projects/xbmc) so you don't have to wait for a point release if you want the code, but to answer your question; no it wouldn't be easy to port xbmc's dvd-playback capabilities to mplayer because mplayer isn't used in xbmc play dvds (so it couldn't be passed "upstream" as it was never taken 'downstream'); in short our developers decided that it was to hard, too much work and too inpractical to integrate it into the mplayer-core (read more on why that ishere (http://www.xboxmediaplayer.de/cgi-bin/forums/ikonboard.pl?act=st;f=5;t=10877)) so instead our developers wrote their own separate player-core based on ffmpeg to handle dvd-video discs/movies. * * * *...however you should know that the mplayer-developers themself have now started porting libdvdnav to mplayer, you can read more about that in mplayer-dev-eng mailing-list (http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design7/info.html#mailing_lists) (however note that it has nothing to do with xbmc so please don't discuss that here as it's off-topic!).
tirapalla
2006-02-02, 17:35
it's possible to display external subtitles with a dvd movie or not?
not possible if u use the dvdplayer.
tirapalla
2006-02-02, 17:52
not possible if u use the dvdplayer.
and there is anyway to do it? maybe other software to xbox?
it's a very important feature for me. i need it!!
tirapalla
2006-02-02, 17:54
msdash dvd-player can only play subs that come with the dvd, (xbmc can use/display example .srt or separate vobsub too).
can xbmc play dvd with external subtitles or not?
because i read many post saying is not possible, or suggesting as a new feature:
http://www.xboxmediaplayer.de/cgi-bin....ry99392 (http://www.xboxmediaplayer.de/cgi-bin/forums/ikonboard.pl?act=st;f=2;t=17913;st=0;r=1;&#entry99392)
http://www.xboxmediaplayer.de/cgi-bin....and+dvd (http://www.xboxmediaplayer.de/cgi-bin/forums/ikonboard.pl?act=st;f=4;t=18513;hl=subtitle+and+dv d)
thanks for your help
the dvdplayer only understands real dvd subtitles, not external ones yet.
actually i already programmed some stuff for external subtitles (srt is already working in normal movies, but disabled).
i have some ideas on how to implement this for dvd's, but it is a bit harder than for normal movies (you don't know what the main movie is on a dvd and thus when the external subtitle should be used). an idea is to use external subtitles at the moment you use the file browser to search for subtitles during the main movie. but i could use some ideas for this, and are external subtitles for dvd's really needed?
are external subtitles for dvd's really needed?
i would say yes as there a few places to download subtitles. typically r1 gets movies fastest. this means other regions dont have to wait for the dvd to be released and can use the r1 disc.
and i see your point about dvd's. how do can we auto detect an alternate external subtitle? in this case, i think just providing the ability to manually browse for external subtitles would be sufficient.
scoobaman
2006-02-28, 16:55
i have been looking for this feature for a long time. for now i am using the xbox dash with the remote control.
agonelpagliaio
2006-04-10, 17:05
hi there,
does anybody know how to use .srt subtitles when playing a ripped dvd (.ifo)?
i have heard that it was possible with previous versions of xbmc simply by renaming the subtitles file as video_ts.srt, but how to with the latest xbmc builds?
it is very useful when watching dvds not having subtitles in your own language.
thanks a lot and best regards,
marco
agonelpagliaio
2006-04-11, 07:27
hi there,
it would be great to be able to select .srt subtitles while playing a dvd (.ifo).
i have heard that it was possible with previous versions of xbmc simply by renaming the subtitles file as video_ts.srt, but how to with the latest xbmc builds?
it is very useful when watching dvds not having subtitles in your own language.
thanks a lot and best regards,
marco
agonelpagliaio
2006-04-11, 19:13
hi there,
does anybody know how to select .srt subtitles when playing a ripped dvd (.ifo)?
i have heard that it was possible with previous versions of xbmc simply by renaming the subtitles file as video_ts.srt, but how to with the latest xbmc builds?
it is very useful when watching dvds not having subtitles in your own language.
i have already posted this thread once and received no answers... it seems strange to me... isn't it a very useful feature?
thanks a lot and best regards,
marco
agonelpagliaio
2006-04-11, 19:39
are external subtitles for dvd's really needed?
yes!
many dvd releases come without english subtitles (i think it's crazy because english subs wouldn't take much space).
even though you can be fluent in eglish you know how difficult sometimes it is to catch some words or entire sentences (especially when they use slang).
with that feature we could easily find english .srt subtitles and use them.
the same would be greatly helpful for people who don't speak english and who didn't find subs in their own language in the release (there are .srt subs in many languages).
the only thing i don't understand is that i have heard that it was possible with previous builds of xbmc simply by renaming the subtitles file as video_ts.srt: can someone confirm? is it an old feature removed in newest builds?
thanks a lot and best regards,
marco
short answer.
xbmc uses two player cores, mplayer and the dvdplayer. mplayer suports external subtitles, dvdplayer does not. mplayer does not support dvd menu's, dvdplayer does. dvdplayer is the default player for video_ts stuff. you can select which player you want to use if you select video_tf.ifo and press (on the remote control that is) the title button and choose the option, play with.
dvdplayer is going to support external subtitles, but not before the next pointrelease is out. simple reason, implementing external subtitle support is not as easy as it seems.
agonelpagliaio
2006-04-11, 21:23
mplayer suports external subtitles, dvdplayer does not
thanks a lot for the answer darkie,
would you please explain how to use external subs with mplayer, then?
should we rename them to video_ts.srt and put them into the same dvd folder?
regards,
marco
agonelpagliaio
2006-04-12, 01:05
mplayer suports external subtitles, dvdplayer does not
thanks a lot for the answer darkie,
would you please explain how to use external subs with mplayer, then?
yes! yes!
sorry for the excess of enthusiasm but i was really needing that :-)
thanks to darkie's answer i realized (maybe for the rest of you it was obvious) that with the old mplayer it is possible to use subtitles while watching dvds, you just need to browse for them by entering the audio menu while playing the dvd; plus i thought mplayer disappeared from latest builds but as darkie said "you select video_tf.ifo and press (on the remote control that is) the title button and choose the option, play with"!
easy and useful!!!
we can use still use the mplayer for dvds and external subs until the feature will be implemented in dvdplayer.
thanks a lot and best regards,
marco
when playing dvd, and i tried to skip to the next track it doesn't work, instead it just fast forwarding, samething happen with go back to the previous track. did anyone experience something like that?
is there a chance to add closed captions decoder for this player? in mplayer this function not working anyway... i think it will be good because to many dvds without subtitles, but cc always there.
has this been considered?
not sure if this is the correct topic or not, but i've had a few issues with certain dvd's not playing. they are original dvd's hired from a video store (and yes, they are clean!).
the latest which failed to play was "fun with dick and jane". region 4 version (australia).
menu comes up fine, but when the movie starts playback, the screen remains black and the xbox locks up.
i've had similar issues with a couple of other original dvd's (no titles, sorry, but will add them as i find them).
all the dvd's which failed under xbmc, played fine under the original dashboard.... although, the original dvd player by ms is awful.
spadman.
yes... sadly our dvdplayer will never handle -all- discs
why is that now ? because all discs are different, and there are no open standards. microsoft dvdplayer + all other hacked dvdplayers on xbox which uses "microsoft dvdplayer source" all work with most , if not all discs, because they use a licensced "dvd engine".
we use open source code, and the dvd discs we own/have at our disposal, which is maybe 0.01% of the made ones...
is there anyway to make xbmc skip the dvd intros, like miramax, 20th century fox etc automatically? and on some dvds the trailers. like in vlc player by default.
slang123
2006-05-17, 15:58
i second that, i use anydvd on my pc and love it. its the one thing i want most from xbmc at the moment
akarimco
2006-05-19, 23:55
i've had similar problems with certain dvds not playing at all or that load the menu and then crash when the main video starts. the weird thing is that these dvds are from the same boxed sets of tv shows that other dvds will work. meaning, discs 1 and 3-7 play fine, but disc 2 doesn't. i thought that was a bit odd, so i thought i'd point it out, though i understand that it's just kinda the nature of the beast, so-to-speak.
moonsspoon
2006-07-25, 06:15
When watching a DVD (vob or through dvd-drive) is there a way to skip through chapters, or see which chapter your on? I couldn't find anything in the manual about this.
Gamester17
2006-07-25, 12:07
no, not yet, (at least not without going through the DVD-menu of your DVD-Video disk it it has one, if it doesn't have a menu then nothing you can do now)
I'd like to see the DVD Player being capable of displaying the same info as Mplayer... eg. audio bitrate etc. Is this possible?
Stimpoff
2006-09-04, 00:40
Hi,
Maybe it was already mentioned somewhere...but...
When play button is pressed (or play fron context menu) on DVD folder (ussualy VIDEO_TS) then VIDEO_TS.IFO from folder should be played instead first VOB in folder.
What do you think? I think it can be easily implemented and it will improve XBMC's usage little bit forward again ;-)
Stimpoff