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topfs2
2008-08-31, 00:37
Oh I just remembered one more thing, could you add more sorting options to TV Shows? It feels weird and not so intuitive to have just sort by name when your trying to watch your favourite show :D

Cheers

Jeroen
2008-08-31, 14:21
both RSS and the scanning progress are visible for me, doesn't look to good :)
Might be good to move either the RSS or the others to a row up perhaps? that is if the conditional visability is working weird :S

It is (imo) working weird, or at least inconsistent. This problem exists from as early as the first version. I use the same method in every scenario but for some reason it wouldn't work for the scanning progress meter. I believe I fixed the issue now though. previously I used the Window ID to set the condition, but it seems that the conditional visibility only works when I use the delta window ID.


Also could you have the tag you have added in fanart (Darken fanart thing) to not be enabled on Fullscreen video (You know when you navigating the home menu)
You know, I actually don't even remember exactly how it looks in the current released version, but I don't think the fanart dim setting has any effect on the non-fanart background images. If it does, it shouldn't ;) There is a diffuse texture that does though. Since there is no way to toggle this on or off, and I like a bit of dim around the edges I will not be removing that. I created a new, less dramatic diffuse texture though, so the effect will be more subtle in the next version.

If you don't want to add it b/c of settings & all that its no big deal... I can add it with a simple copy/paste myself when the time comes.

The only reason I want it is I keep my Kid's shows out of the library, but still enjoy fanart.

& It is a great skin :nod:
Ok :) Maybe I'll leave the code there, so you would only have to uncomment it.

Oh I just remembered one more thing, could you add more sorting options to TV Shows? It feels weird and not so intuitive to have just sort by name when your trying to watch your favourite show :D
I don't have any control over that, it's xbmc's function :) There are more sorting options though, at least for me. Check that you are focused on the main sorting button itself, not on the arrow, that's just for setting descending/ascending. I just checked in PM3, and it works the same as in Focus.

Nuckinfuts
2008-09-01, 08:03
this is a great skin i must say, 10/10, my only minor complaint which may not be the skin itself, but the "Please Wait" screens i get when going through some menus. But granted i just updated from a 2+ year old build of XBMC its probably just me :laugh:

Jeroen
2008-09-01, 10:03
Thank you :) I'm afraid there's nothing I can do about the wait message though, that's just the 'ol xbox struggling with modern day mediacenter usage ;) The wait message only appears when XBMC tells it to.

rwparris2
2008-09-01, 18:45
Speaking of the wait message...
Is it going to be changed in the next release?
It often overlaps something else causing it to be unreadable and almost unnoticeable.

Jeroen
2008-09-01, 19:45
Yes, that will be changed in the next release. I prefer to have an animated gif but I shiver at the thought of actually having to make it :laugh:

Jeroen
2008-09-02, 15:14
BTW, if anyone knows of a free font similar to the one used in the homescreen submenus, please let me know. I've been searching a long time for a suitable replacement. I really like the font so I'm looking for something as close as possible.
I've found some that are quite similar but in all cases the difference between uppercase and lowercase was too big, which I don't like. So a requirement would be minimal difference between upper and lowercase.
Plus, most of the candidates I found were free to use but not to distribute. Or OpenType fonts which don't seem to work with xbmc.

edit: hm, this seems to be my lucky day. I think I found my replacement.

Jeroen
2008-09-07, 22:22
Alpha 5 released. See first post for details. Please read through the announcement.
Cheers,
Jeroen

djtoll
2008-09-07, 22:32
THANKS! :grin: :;):

Ayla
2008-09-07, 23:02
Thanks Jeroen!

Do I still change the poster size in file list view, in the same file/place as with alpha 4? :)

/Martin

lupick
2008-09-08, 11:20
Thank you again,

I've tested new version of the skin and it's great.

I'm only sorry for the background cycling....

It could be nice to have an option to enable it... at least for home screen..

BTW thank you again!

Ciao

L.

Bram77
2008-09-08, 12:57
I just had enough space left on google code to upload the new version. So the skin is downloadable with the XBMC-favorites installer.

Thanks again Jeroen! Great job.

Dimestore
2008-09-08, 20:01
Some minour bugs i noticed:

1. Although thumbnail view is enabled for music, it is not selectabel.

2. When no plot info in fanart view, for movies, is selected the genre still pops up.

Questions/Suggestions:

1. Thanks for the feature to turn off the virtual keyboard. Could you tell me which file if have to modify to change the position of the text input?

2. I really liked the "old" music information that used the whole screen, could you mabye make it an optional to the current one?

3. An icon when the sound is muted would also be great.

I have an CRT TV and I think the plot summary and OSD controls are just fine.

Thanks again for this great skin, i am using it every day.

Jeroen
2008-09-08, 22:07
Do I still change the poster size in file list view, in the same file/place as with alpha 4? :)

Yep, that should be in about the same spot :)


I'm only sorry for the background cycling....
It could be nice to have an option to enable it... at least for home screen..

Yes, I'm considering doing something like that. Thanks

So the skin is downloadable with the XBMC-favorites installer.
Thanks :)

Some minour bugs i noticed:
1. Although thumbnail view is enabled for music, it is not selectabel.
2. When no plot info in fanart view, for movies, is selected the genre still pops up.

I'll look into those, cheers.


Could you tell me which file if have to modify to change the position of the text input?
That would be dialogkeyboard.xml. Change the coordinates of the group control at the top. It's position is however also determined by the animation.


2. I really liked the "old" music information that used the whole screen, could you mabye make it an optional to the current one?

Yes I plan to do a more coverart centered layout at some point.


3. An icon when the sound is muted would also be great.

Agreed :)

I have an CRT TV and I think the plot summary and OSD controls are just fine.

That's good to hear, thanks :)

IIINeOIIINL
2008-09-08, 22:10
Thanks Jeroen,

Looking forward to test/use it

Jeroen
2008-09-09, 11:06
1. Although thumbnail view is enabled for music, it is not selectabel.
2. When no plot info in fanart view, for movies, is selected the genre still pops up.


Dimestore, I wasn't able to reproduce number 2. Please note that thumbnail and icon view are the same, I just have some more renaming to do. Does this happen in any particular situation? (Like only when listing albums or artists for example)
I couldn't reproduce number 1 either, but I changed one little thing hoping that will solve it for you.
Could you redownload to see if that does the trick? I also threw in a mute icon, placement is probably temporary.
Cheers,
Jeroen

Ayla
2008-09-09, 13:48
Jeroen,

When I click the Shutdown button on the home page, it always defaults to the "About box" or something like that.

Even if I press Down and select Shutdown, it doesn't remember it the next time.

Could that minor "bug" be fixed?

Thanks again :)
Martin

xbs08
2008-09-09, 17:13
The skin seems to be missing some files, can someone confirm this?

Jeroen
2008-09-09, 17:41
The skin seems to be missing some files, can someone confirm this?

I can :o

I don't know what, but something definitely went wrong with the updating/upload.
Please redownload, download link in first post updated.
Sorry about that :(


seems box.net doesn't like it when you update a zip with the same name as before.

Ayla
2008-09-09, 18:47
What should be missing?

I have just tried the skin and everything seems fine.

Martin

Jeroen
2008-09-09, 19:58
What should be missing?

I have just tried the skin and everything seems fine.

Martin

I updated a couple of little things because of what dimestore said, and something went wrong with the updating it seems. So for a while the download package was corrupted.

Ayla
2008-09-09, 20:06
I updated a couple of little things because of what dimestore said, and something went wrong with the updating it seems. So for a while the download package was corrupted.

OK, I'll download again just to be safe.

I have found a bug maybe:

I use File mode.

When I try to manually select a movie poster, the poster changes in the info window but it doesn't change in the List View... The big movie poster doesn't reflect the change?

Dimestore
2008-09-09, 21:08
Dimestore, I wasn't able to reproduce number 2. Please note that thumbnail and icon view are the same, I just have some more renaming to do. Does this happen in any particular situation? (Like only when listing albums or artists for example)

Ah, since icon and thumbnail are the same, anything works fine, sry.

I couldn't reproduce number 1 either, but I changed one little thing hoping that will solve it for you.
Could you redownload to see if that does the trick? I also threw in a mute icon, placement is probably temporary.
Cheers,
Jeroen

Thanks, this is fixed in the new version.

Jeroen
2008-09-10, 11:03
I use File mode.

When I try to manually select a movie poster, the poster changes in the info window but it doesn't change in the List View... The big movie poster doesn't reflect the change?

I don't know to be honest. I have noticed that sometimes happening too. Usually it will have changed for me when reloading the filelist. Not much the skin can do about though, xbmc itself takes care of the image loading. The skin just tells it where to put it.

Livin
2008-09-11, 07:39
BUG...
music scan info show during video playback.

Ayla
2008-09-12, 12:41
Jeroen,

I use File mode.

When I click Video on the main menu, I see:

Adult
Clips
Movies
TV Shows

How do I change the name of Adult and Clips?

I want Documentaries and Videos instead :)

Thanks,
Martin

Jeroen
2008-09-16, 15:16
Jeroen,

I use File mode.

When I click Video on the main menu, I see:

Adult
Clips
Movies
TV Shows

How do I change the name of Adult and Clips?

I want Documentaries and Videos instead :)

Thanks,
Martin

Sorry for the late answer. By default Focus does not have the menu entries you mention so no adult and clips.
But if you want to change anything in this menu you should look into the HomeVideoMenu.xml file.

topfs2
2008-09-18, 23:43
As always sharp work, really love the new version. Will try to bug bash it when I get some more time on my hands.

P.S Love the colour tweaks and the new icons. It might be good if possible to keep the tango available down the line, although if it throws you of the rocking the skip that >D

Cheers, Tobias

megatomte
2008-09-21, 19:58
It looks great(er) now even thought it took some time to get used to the inbuilt volume control was horizontal instead of vertical.

So, the bug report (or?), well you fixed most issues with the menu control when playing songs, but, when I choose a visualization (Menu -> go to the eye to the left) it disappears. The eye disappear and never re-appears, I mean when I press it I can go left and right to choose the viz I want and then I wait a few seconds and it gets chosen, its after that it poof gone.

Something else I thought about was, when scrolling through the viz's the text is quite big and doesnt really fit in that small place.
Lovin' it thought ;)

migueld
2008-09-23, 06:17
I like the home interface, it's not the typical UI, but it's pretty intuitive nonetheless. Very nice. I didn't like the font used on the home screen.. it looks kinda out of place... I think if the font were changed it'd give the skin a better look overall.

Anyway those were my first impressions, good stuff :)

MikeBeecham
2008-09-23, 18:28
I absolutely love this skin and am using it as default all the time now. The one area I hope Jeroen improves over time is the highlight on the home navigation. I'm not a big fna of the black bar, and think it could do with being improved upon.

However, the guy is doing all of this on his own in his own time and should be commended. I hope it gets changed at some stage, but am not going to push for it.

Excellent skin Jeroen.

topfs2
2008-09-24, 10:55
@Joeren
Just a FYI:
If you want to have more controll over PowerManagement done on other plattforms than XBox, these have been added to beta1

http://xbmc.org/forum/showthread.php?t=37726
http://xbmc.org/topfs2/2008/09/23/skinners-can-suspend-and-hibernate/

Note that these are perfectly backwards compatible with XBox branch.

Jeroen
2008-09-26, 22:26
So, not a lot of news atm I'm afraid. I have taken the pace of things a little bit. Sometimes I get this strange urge to actually use my skin/xbmc instead of working on it all the time :P

As it stands now, I don't expect to release a new version soon. There's several reasons for this, one being I will be leaving the XBOX platform behind me soon as I have ordered an htpc. This means my personal interest will be shifting to an HD version of Focus. Some work has been done on this already. The HD version will be driven more by my own personal taste and preferences. Maybe I will be backporting the changes to the SD version at some point but I am not sure about this.


So, the bug report (or?), well you fixed most issues with the menu control when playing songs, but, when I choose a visualization (Menu -> go to the eye to the left) it disappears. The eye disappear and never re-appears, I mean when I press it I can go left and right to choose the viz I want and then I wait a few seconds and it gets chosen, its after that it poof gone.

Something else I thought about was, when scrolling through the viz's the text is quite big and doesnt really fit in that small place.
Lovin' it thought ;)
Yes, the vis controls are incomplete. So are the dialog windows like vis select as at the time of working on them XBMC would crash constantly when having the vis active making it undoable working on them.

I didn't like the font used on the home screen.. it looks kinda out of place... I think if the font were changed it'd give the skin a better look overall.
Anyway those were my first impressions, good stuff :)
Thanks. I'm quite happy with the font though. And it was quite a task finding an open source font that I liked so I don't plan on changing it.

I'm not a big fna of the black bar, and think it could do with being improved upon.
I'm not really pleased with it either Mike. Something else will come up eventually.

@Joeren
Just a FYI:
If you want to have more controll over PowerManagement done on other plattforms than XBox, these have been added to beta1

http://xbmc.org/forum/showthread.php?t=37726
http://xbmc.org/topfs2/2008/09/23/skinners-can-suspend-and-hibernate/

Note that these are perfectly backwards compatible with XBox branch.
Thanks, those are nice additions :)

Ayla
2008-09-27, 00:33
Really looking forward to the HD version Jeroen!

Glad to see you join the HTPC camp (Plex maybe) ;)

I use this skin everyday and it has replaced AEON for me.

PS. Choosing Trailers from the Video menu always show 0 items for me, even though, if I start the Apple MT script, it works fine and updates.

I would rather browse them, like movie entries. Any ideas?

PPS. When clicking the power off button on the right it always defaults to "About". Can I make it default to "Shutdown" instead?

/Martin

Jeroen
2008-10-04, 12:16
Really looking forward to the HD version Jeroen!

Glad to see you join the HTPC camp (Plex maybe) ;)

I use this skin everyday and it has replaced AEON for me.

PS. Choosing Trailers from the Video menu always show 0 items for me, even though, if I start the Apple MT script, it works fine and updates.

I would rather browse them, like movie entries. Any ideas?

PPS. When clicking the power off button on the right it always defaults to "About". Can I make it default to "Shutdown" instead?

/Martin

You are using the "normal" AMT plugin I assume (so not the Apple Movie Trailers II plugin)? I'm not sure what can be causing it to be honest, it works fine for me ???
As for your second question, If you redownload Focus, the default should be "shutdown", I changed this some time ago.

Digitalhour
2008-10-06, 06:18
Outstanding Skin I really Love it..

What i found, I Use Apple Trailers II Plugin, just changed the folder name to match what the skin looks for and it Worked just fine

muggsy
2008-10-06, 15:30
Only just checked this skin out, and it's great. Using it on my 4x3 SD TV and it looks great. A good font, easily readable.

Anyway to add fanart to files mode? Also when I click on Videos in the homescreen it's taking me to my sources list, and it doesn't seem to matter if I was in library mode or not. It would be great if you could set that as an option. Also is there supposed to be a long delay when in fanart view?

Other than that, this looks like a great skin.

Jeroen
2008-10-06, 19:18
Outstanding Skin I really Love it..

What i found, I Use Apple Trailers II Plugin, just changed the folder name to match what the skin looks for and it Worked just fine
Thanks :) Yes, that would be the easiest way. Someday I hope to rebuild the main menu and make things like that configurable from the UI.

Only just checked this skin out, and it's great. Using it on my 4x3 SD TV and it looks great. A good font, easily readable.

Anyway to add fanart to files mode? Also when I click on Videos in the homescreen it's taking me to my sources list, and it doesn't seem to matter if I was in library mode or not. It would be great if you could set that as an option. Also is there supposed to be a long delay when in fanart view?

Other than that, this looks like a great skin.
Fanart is only available in Library mode. This may change at some point.

Correct, pressing the main button will always take you into file mode. If you press the down button when for instance videos is hovered it will provide you with access to various parts of the library. This is by design so that access to both is always direct.

Yes, there is a delay in fanart view. But it really shouldn't be too long. I believe it's 2 seconds. Especially on the xbox setting it lower results in jerky browsing imo.

djtoll
2008-10-07, 01:20
latest update: 09.09.08

Jeroen, is not quite right in your signature or?

12.09.08 is the download file, right? So even the latest.

Thanks again for this phantastic WORK & Skin :nod:

djtoll

Jeroen
2008-10-09, 12:57
Jeroen, is not quite right in your signature or?

12.09.08 is the download file, right? So even the latest.

Thanks again for this phantastic WORK & Skin :nod:

djtoll

You´re right, fixed :) That was just a very small update though.
You´re welcome :)

muggsy
2008-10-11, 00:03
Can I aks a quick question. What resolution are you developing this skin for. I only ask because when I use it on my macbook in full screen (1280x800) all the posters display correctly, however if I user 720p mode the posters are squashed. It's the opposite for 4x3 on an SD TV. In that mode they are stretched.

Jeroen
2008-10-11, 11:18
I'm aware of the squashing in 720p. It's not going to be corrected for now as I am working on a 720p version of Focus which will be merged with the current version. The stretching in 4:3 is something I will have to look into at a later stage.

muggsy
2008-10-11, 13:52
I'm aware of the squashing in 720p. It's not going to be corrected for now as I am working on a 720p version of Focus which will be merged with the current version. The stretching in 4:3 is something I will have to look into at a later stage.


That's awesome mate. It's a great skin that oozes quality...

lupick
2008-10-11, 16:20
Maybe I've found a little bug:

on my Xbox if I enter in the system Menu of the XBMC and I try to come back to the main menu (back button or menu button) it give to me an Informational message about focus Skin (something how to use it in the home menu...) and it's impossible to go back.

I've to shutdown the console..



thanks
L.

PS wich HTPC have you bought??

Ciao
I'm aware of the squashing in 720p. It's not going to be corrected for now as I am working on a 720p version of Focus which will be merged with the current version. The stretching in 4:3 is something I will have to look into at a later stage.

Jeroen
2008-10-12, 14:56
Maybe I've found a little bug:

on my Xbox if I enter in the system Menu of the XBMC and I try to come back to the main menu (back button or menu button) it give to me an Informational message about focus Skin (something how to use it in the home menu...) and it's impossible to go back.

I've to shutdown the console..



thanks
L.

PS wich HTPC have you bought??

Ciao

You have to actually confirm in that screen by hitting the OK button. This switches a condition so the screen is not displayed the next time you leave the settings screen.

I bought a dell studio hybrid. It's overpriced and I understand it could give problems with 1080p output, but 720/1080p playback has been perfect for me so far and I am content with 720p. Plus I really like the size and looks, I'm very happy with it :)

Bram77
2008-10-12, 18:32
I have the exact same problem. But I've installed the skin on other XBOXes (friends of mine) where this problem didn't occur. Strange... Completely removing the skin and installing it again does not solve the problem.

Digitalhour
2008-10-13, 00:22
I have the exact same problem. But I've installed the skin on other XBOXes (friends of mine) where this problem didn't occur. Strange... Completely removing the skin and installing it again does not solve the problem.

not have this problem.
only one i have had is on my box, when i am adding source it likes to blend in with the back ground..! ill submit screen dumps in a few..!

Jeroen
2008-10-13, 02:47
I have the exact same problem. But I've installed the skin on other XBOXes (friends of mine) where this problem didn't occur. Strange... Completely removing the skin and installing it again does not solve the problem.

Even after pressing the ok button though ???

Bram77
2008-10-13, 13:26
Yup, none of the buttons work except 'menu' which bring you back to the configuration screen which I was trying to leave. The only way to get to the home screen again is rebooting the XBOX (or with my Harmony remote, press a button to go directly to videos, music or script screen). The "OK" button was present on the other XBOXes I tried the skin on, but it just isn't there on my xbox.

Jeroen
2008-10-13, 14:49
Yup, none of the buttons work except 'menu' which bring you back to the configuration screen which I was trying to leave. The only way to get to the home screen again is rebooting the XBOX (or with my Harmony remote, press a button to go directly to videos, music or script screen). The "OK" button was present on the other XBOXes I tried the skin on, but it just isn't there on my xbox.

Ok... so there´s not even a Ok button present on screen? That´s very weird indeed, I´ll look into it.
Cheers,
Jeroen

lupick
2008-10-17, 23:40
I can confirm the problem..

Another BIG issue with the last XBMC TH3Cis during video playback. Pressing up arrow you cant skip forward as happen using another skin...


Ciao

Ok... so there´s not even a Ok button present on screen? That´s very weird indeed, I´ll look into it.
Cheers,
Jeroen

Jeroen
2008-10-18, 00:16
I'll see if I can find some time this weekend to fix it.
Although I doubt whether the second issue has anything to do with the skin. Key controls and things like that are not controlled by skins. At least not regarding core xbmc functions.

lemik
2008-10-20, 01:55
http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/334/focusalpha6prev2tc5.png


how is it that I would go about getting the above effect of displaying the movie fan art background while also displaying each of the movie covers in my library?

i can get it to display fan art and the individual movie cover but when it shows fan art the rest of the covers disappear.

thanks in advance

Jeroen
2008-10-20, 19:14
how is it that I would go about getting the above effect of displaying the movie fan art background while also displaying each of the movie covers in my library?

i can get it to display fan art and the individual movie cover but when it shows fan art the rest of the covers disappear.

thanks in advance

From the settings menu go to skin settings, then to info settings and check the "no plot info in fanart view" option. This setting is seperate for movies and tvshows, so be sure to set it for both if desired.

matt_cyr
2008-10-20, 19:58
i can get it to display fan art and the individual movie cover but when it shows fan art the rest of the covers disappear.


If you're on the xbox, it may be a memory issue, ie. not enough memory to display all covers and fanart.

simonjp
2008-10-23, 23:49
Forgive me if I'm missing something, but I don't seem to be able to use wide icon mode in file view - am I missing something?

Thanks for a fantastic skin!

Jeroen
2008-10-25, 12:48
Forgive me if I'm missing something, but I don't seem to be able to use wide icon mode in file view - am I missing something?

Thanks for a fantastic skin!

There's no viewtype specifically for wide icons in file mode. Creating one would result in that viewtype showing up when using poster sized icons too and having them stretched, something I don't really want. There is one in library mode as there I have the ability to adapt the various viewtypes to the type of content and icons that is being listed.
Thanks, you're welcome :)

Jeroen
2008-10-25, 13:06
I upped a minor fix for the problem with the unskippable notification screen when exiting the settings page. I haven't had the time to really look at the problem so I just disabled the notification screen for now.
If you don't experience the mentioned problem there's no need to upgrade, nothing else has changed. First post for download location.

topfs2
2008-10-28, 14:18
:sad: Cant download your wonderfull skin due to you dont have enough bandwith left :)

Have you considered hosting it on google code as xTV is?

(Also ofc it would be awesome if you would want to push it into the skinning svn aswell, but Im putting that in parenthesis so you dont feel forced ;))

Cheers and thanx for a lovely skin
Tobias

Jeroen
2008-10-28, 18:48
I was afraid that was going to happen soon :eek:

I'll look into setting up an alternate location tonight. I'm planning to release a major update pretty soon, and I'll be putting Focus up on the SVN from that version on as well. I do plan on creating compiled builds from time to time. I think I will be using Google Code for those.

rwparris2
2008-10-28, 19:03
maybe google-code?
or mediafire/megaupload/rapidshit/etc

edit-didn't notice you already mentioned google-code

topfs2
2008-10-29, 01:54
I was afraid that was going to happen soon :eek:

I'll look into setting up an alternate location tonight. I'm planning to release a major update pretty soon, and I'll be putting Focus up on the SVN from that version on as well. I do plan on creating compiled builds from time to time. I think I will be using Google Code for those.

Also if you follow a std when putting it on google-code then I think nuka1195 is creating a script that will allow XBMC to automaticly download the skin (and keep it up to date?) any way it would be most awesome if Focus would be available via this downloader!

Ill poke after nuka1195 and see if he could explain the process.

Cheers,
Tobias

Bram77
2008-10-29, 17:20
The skin is also downloadable with the XBMC-Favorites plugin. All available skins and plugins are up-to-date. Google finally upgraded my quota.

Jeroen
2008-10-31, 11:28
Good news :) Thanks Bram

Jeroen
2008-11-03, 15:14
Compiled builds now hosted at google:

http://code.google.com/p/xbmc-focus/

rwparris2
2008-11-03, 17:59
Cool! Is this an update or just a hosting move?

Jeroen
2008-11-03, 18:09
No update, just a hosting move. Future compiled builds will only be available through Google Code from now on as box.net's bandwith limit isn't sufficient anymore. A new version will be released within a week.

lupick
2008-11-16, 15:28
Dear All

I've just tested Alpha 6 on my xbox, and I've noticed the font change. unfortunally this cause some issue on my Xbox:

1 in the home screen the top menu seems to be "collapsed", I mean the Accessories word partially overwrite the picture and setting menu and
2. On some menu the bigger fon doesn't fit the space;
3.in the library mode if you ask for info of a film the bottom menu has a similar problem to pint 1

Maybe some bug??

thank you

L

maometto
2008-11-16, 17:06
same problem with xbox .... too small fonts in the view mode too

Jeroen
2008-11-16, 17:20
Alpha 6 has no support for 4:3 and is aimed at hd screens

simonjp
2008-11-19, 02:03
Alpha 6 has no support for 4:3 and is aimed at hd screens

Will there be support for 16:9 PAL in the beta / gold version, or has this fallen by the wayside?

Jeroen
2008-11-19, 06:53
Yes I intend to support at least 16:9 SD. Maybe 4:3 as well, it depends on how feasible it is without coding lots of workarounds.

Bram77
2008-11-21, 11:40
That's great news :)

mgk69
2009-04-10, 04:35
I just upgraded to Babylon and now my background is pure black - not that it bothers me just wondering if this happened to anyone else and whether there is a way to fix it?

miljbee
2009-04-10, 10:36
THere has been a bug in the skinning engine with recent builds.

Jonathan corrected it yesterday. The Changeset is 19347, and the problem first occurs with svn18897. So install either a build older 18897 or newer than 19347.

Johnkg
2009-04-10, 13:25
Just loaded r19378 and blue background is back!

One issue, is under DVD menu the Time remaining (? Last field on right) is displaying something along the lines of [COLOR.Sublabel , etc...] xml

I can't reproduce under PM3 as it does not display the field.


ps. Fantastic skin Jeroen! It's the only one I use.

jmarshall
2009-04-10, 13:34
He's missing a [/COLOR] closing tag in that case.

Bram77
2009-04-16, 02:55
I've altered to PAL16x9 font.xml file to display fonts in a acceptable size on SD screens (only tested using the English language). It's not perfect, for that I would have to alter the 720p skin files or create a seperate 16x9 skin configuration. I might do the latter once I find the time. I've also removed the color tag that resulted in the incorrect displaying of the end time of a video (in VideoOSD.xml). I've included the file in the following archive. Simply extract the archive in the focus skin directory and reboot or reload the skin...

http://bramvanoploo.tweakdsl.nl/remote/XBMC/skins/focus/Focus_16x9_fontfix.rar

I'd lake to add music fanart support. Where can I fond documentation about that? I have no skinning experience...

I still love this skin and hope it will stay alive. I hadn't used it for quite a while because of the font issue on my PAL16x9 tv. That's fixed now :)
When I started using it again after a few months of the good old PMIII, it felt like coming home. The skin is perfect for the XBOX. It's lightweight and works well on both SD and HD screens. It's the only skin that doesn't give memory problems using fanart in 720p format (don't feel like resizing all the fanart images manualy).

Jeroen
2009-04-17, 17:17
Nice work Bram. I hope this version of Focus can stay alive too. I hope I can think of something to keep things going, but I will most likely need help on that. But more on that later.

Waffa
2009-04-17, 18:00
Jeroen your skin is great and has very, very nice skin settings.:grin:

xbs08
2009-04-22, 21:18
When i stop a movie focus returns to the .. is there a way make focus stay on the previous played movie?

Jeroen
2009-04-22, 22:56
There must be. I've looked into it several times but unfortunately I haven't got the faintest idea what's making it return to the top entry. I've compared my wraplist code with PM3's which doesn't have this behaviour and I don't see anything in there that focus does differently.
I'll make a post in the developer forum to see if anyone can see what's up.

xbs08
2009-04-23, 15:17
Thanks.
Other thing i've notice was when focus is, lets say, at a 10th episode of a tv shows and i press back the focus stays in a similar position in tv show general list.
Should it go the first one and not a similar position when stepping back?

diemos
2009-04-23, 19:17
Looks great. Amazing Job

azido
2009-04-24, 14:35
I've also removed the color tag that resulted in the incorrect displaying of the end time of a video (in VideoOSD.xml). I've included the file in the following archive. Simply extract the archive in the focus skin directory and reboot or reload the skin...



just wanted to say thanks for that closing tag fix. it saves me from searching for it for myself :)

Bram77
2009-04-24, 14:57
My pleasure. I think there are some more color tags that aren't properly closed though.
I'm running Aeon (Auriga lite) at the moment because I (almost daily) update XBMC to the latest SVN version. Aeon is one of the only skins that support the latest XBMC skinning features. I like using cutting edge stuff :). In some way Aeon is similar to Focus. It's minimalistic...
So I'm not fixing bugs for Focus a.t.m. and I kind of gave up on adding artist fanart. It was becoming a bit to time consuming, consuming time I don't have right now :)

Johnkg
2009-04-25, 13:14
Thanks from me too! :)

leeberguy
2009-04-26, 18:59
How does one enter a password on the login screen? :confused2: When I try to access a profile requiring a password I immediately get the message indicating an incorrect password was issued.

Thanks!

zeltak
2009-04-29, 17:31
Hi again Jeroen

After playing with foucs for the last week or so i am really really impressed. thx for all your work again, i cant wait for the update (and your new skin of course :;):)

One thing im missing is Unicode support. All my unicode text appear as empty boxes (which is especially painfull with all my mythtv recordings which i cant distinguish between..)

I have tried "fixing" it by myself by kinda following the guide on fonts on the xbmc wiki but since i really dont know what im doing had no results...

Is there any chance to include a unicode font or modify to current one to support unicode?

I am very willing to help but take in mind that im a complete newbee in the area and dont know any programing

thx alot again

Zeltak

Jeroen
2009-04-29, 19:39
Hi again Jeroen

After playing with foucs for the last week or so i am really really impressed. thx for all your work again, i cant wait for the update (and your new skin of course :;):)

One thing im missing is Unicode support. All my unicode text appear as empty boxes (which is especially painfull with all my mythtv recordings which i cant distinguish between..)

I have tried "fixing" it by myself by kinda following the guide on fonts on the xbmc wiki but since i really dont know what im doing had no results...

Is there any chance to include a unicode font or modify to current one to support unicode?

I am very willing to help but take in mind that im a complete newbee in the area and dont know any programing

thx alot again

Zeltak

Sure, that's something I'd like to look into. Finding fonts is hard though. I mean there are a lot of fonts to be found, it's just hard to find fonts that I find suitable for the skin. Also I need to take the kerning of the font into account so there are no problems with text not fitting on controls and such. And since I highly prefer to do things "legit" I want a font that is free to use AND distribute. And that last one is the hardest part by far.

ajp8164
2009-05-26, 04:15
Hi Jeroen -

I really like this skin! I have looked at probably every skin on the planet and this one beats them all - professional, simple, and easy to use. Thanks for the great work.

One request... any chance of porting this skin to work with MediaPortal ? I use MP because I need PVR support (am looking forward to have xbmc work as a front end for MP TvServer but the big hurdle for me will be DXVA support).

Would you consider making this skin available for MP? If not, your expert opinion about it being able to be ported successfully would be valuable (along with the image source ;-)

Thanks for the great work and the consideration!
-Andy

Bram77
2009-05-26, 12:46
Why not use Linux + MythTV + XBMC :)?

Jeroen
2009-05-26, 13:45
Andy, I don't really know anything about the MP skinning engine. I've looked at it once a long time ago, and it seemed quite similar to skinning for xbmc. But I don't know the limitations of the MP skinning engine, so I can't really say. Focus makes quite extensive use of visibility conditionals, I don't know if MP has something comparable.
That said, I don't mind Focus being ported to MediaPortal as long as credit is given. About the image sources, they will be made available on the SVN once I get everything sorted out.
Thanks for the kind words :)

queeup
2009-05-26, 15:17
@Jeroen could you modify Focus for background="true" feature?

http://xbmc.org/jmarshall/2009/05/14/new-multiimage-control-code-allows-background-loading/

Edit: And also could you use Google code svn for develop? If you are use svn we can have last changes :D

Jeroen
2009-05-28, 19:43
@Jeroen could you modify Focus for background="true" feature?

http://xbmc.org/jmarshall/2009/05/14/new-multiimage-control-code-allows-background-loading/

Edit: And also could you use Google code svn for develop? If you are use svn we can have last changes :D

I could, but it's not likely to happen soon. The next update will really be minor, just fixing stuff.

I'm a bit of a crosspoint at the moment. There's the lack of time, and there is the lack of motivation. It's not that I'm not motivated to do skinning but I prefer to put the available time I have in my new project.
Also, Focus was my first skin. Because of that I did things certain ways that I would do different now. As a result my code is better and more effective now, making working on the original skin a PITA. Also I have found that to fix some of the issues major restructuring would be needed.
Also, many improvements and optimizations like the one you mentioned have been added to XBMC which would all have to be injected into focus somehow.
First I want to finish my new project and release a patch for Focus. For any major changes to Focus, I think it would be best to completely rebuild it, based on my new code.

ajp8164
2009-05-29, 07:03
Jeroen - Saw your post on the DXVA thread... FYI - no need to port Focus to MP if BrokenCodes pans out (sorry :oo:)... very exciting news though!

ajp8164
2009-06-27, 07:45
Andy, I don't really know anything about the MP skinning engine. I've looked at it once a long time ago, and it seemed quite similar to skinning for xbmc. But I don't know the limitations of the MP skinning engine, so I can't really say. Focus makes quite extensive use of visibility conditionals, I don't know if MP has something comparable.
That said, I don't mind Focus being ported to MediaPortal as long as credit is given. About the image sources, they will be made available on the SVN once I get everything sorted out.
Thanks for the kind words :)

Jeroen - I've started down the path of attempting a port to MP. Would love to have the image source. If you can share them privately I can assure you that they won't get out. In the event that I am successful in porting Focus I would not release without your approval (since MP does not pack/protect images). Consideration appreciated.
-Andy

ubermac
2009-07-02, 01:52
I'd love to really give this skin a run but it comes up black on my G4 Mini w/ XBMC.

Sad sad sad...

homesnake
2009-08-23, 00:57
first just want to say thanks for the great skin, I'm a big fan of functional/minimal stuff.

I've only been testing this out for a day so apologies if this has been covered before, but one thing that doesn't seem to be working is in the itunes/screensaver area. So under preferences/visualization I choose "Now Playing". when the screensaver kicks in all I get is a black screen. If I choose some kind of iTunes visualization (OpenGL or whatever) it works fine. I don't care for the visualization effects though, but I would like to be able to see my album covers. I switched to the built in Mediastream skin and the "Now Playing" option display correctly for the screensaver.

I am running Plex 0.8.2 and whatever Focus build was on Google code as of Aug 22nd

:)

Thanks again for all your work

Sranshaft
2009-08-24, 08:53
You'd probably have to ask over on the Plex forums.

homesnake
2009-08-26, 05:20
I will give ask over there, thanks