View Full Version : QuickTime 6 support in XBMC?
the quicktime codec in xbmp was very crap! only audio or video or nothing came on the screen. i hope this poll will help the coder to implanted this format! many many trailer cames with it. avi,mpg,vob,xvid are very needed codecs, but quicktime is needed imho too.
sorry my english wasnt so nicely.... i hope the community can understand me http://www.xboxmediaplayer.de/forums/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
bye
MrMario64
2004-01-30, 22:48
i do not like the sound of this.
it's sounds like a demand...........
if i were the person wanting to do this i would stop sharing my work and keep it to myself.
do not demand stuff, they r onlyu doing it for fun and it should stay fun....
it wasnt my intention a work for something was not to be judged! i have myself
only in demand why nobody finished this codec to get possibly done.
it looks to me that the quicktime codec got no real attention like avi or mpeg.
i dont want to bash anyone, i am interested also how many this codecs to have want.
i hope u can understand my bad english
i hate prorietary codecs, but quictime is very very goot with cartoons and anime. the simpson and beavis&butthead can be extremely compressed with a very small loss. about one meg per minute!
i also hate this kind of codecs... but you canīt deny lots of files at the internet come in this format, trailers, fan movies, etc.
i have a full dvd with star wars fan movies and there are most of em quicktime files...
so, sure, iīd like to see a working quicktime codec in xbmc.
also mrmario64, sounds what?, it doesnīt sound like a demand, he was just saying itīd be nice... and i agree with him... of course the coders can do whatever they want, and weīll be happy with this kind of results, but donīt change meanings, one thing is to suggest something (look the forum title) and other quite different is to demand something (and doing so here is quite absurd).
see ya.
Bhellium
2004-02-04, 12:08
that is a good idea :d
how about a "feature demand" topic in the forum?http://www.xboxmediaplayer.de/forums/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
if i rem correctly apple charge you for licenseing for there codec. then u still have to code it into your player... shud have a paypal fingy on here if apple do charge for donations.
silentyl
2004-02-13, 02:56
most of the time quicktime .mov files work for me in both xbmp and xbmc ...but o.n.l.y. when the audio is in mp3 as well.....
thebeast
2004-02-13, 05:08
i do not like the sound of this.
it's sounds like a demand...........
if i were the person wanting to do this i would stop sharing my work and keep it to myself.
do not demand stuff, they r onlyu doing it for fun and it should stay fun....
what mario wrote. plus it makes so much more sense to implement xbmc client reception for internet streams (.strm) of mpeg4/asf/realmedia. including .ram/.asx streams.
who's using quicktime these days for live radio/tv streams? not many, i find, comparing to the number of real streams.
i'd just like to point out that there are two open source quicktime libraries available.... (not pointing out to dev's - i'm sure they know - just to people who dont'! :d )
Gamester17
2004-02-17, 16:24
i'd just like to point out that there are two open source quicktime libraries available
for newer quicktime codec?, where, do you have links?, if true then you should point it out to devs, but mplayer's devs (http://www.mplayerhq.hu), not xbmc http://www.xboxmediaplayer.de/forums/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
i'd just like to point out that there are two open source quicktime libraries available
for newer quicktime codec?, where, do you have links?, if true then you should point it out to devs, but mplayer's devs (http://www.mplayerhq.hu), not xbmc http://www.xboxmediaplayer.de/forums/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
hmm, well i'm not sure if they support 'newer codecs', but i'm pretty sure the video system i use on linux uses them, and i can play .mov's...
http://www.openquicktime.org/
http://heroinewarrior.com/quicktime.php3
why the mplayer dev's? i though that mplayer was de-funct and the dev's now work on xbmc? aren't the dev's for each project one in the same?
thebeast
2004-02-19, 05:33
i'd just like to point out that there are two open source quicktime libraries available
for newer quicktime codec?, where, do you have links?, if true then you should point it out to devs, but mplayer's devs (http://www.mplayerhq.hu), not xbmc http://www.xboxmediaplayer.de/forums/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
hmm, well i'm not sure if they support 'newer codecs', but i'm pretty sure the video system i use on linux uses them, and i can play .mov's...
http://www.openquicktime.org/
http://heroinewarrior.com/quicktime.php3
why the mplayer dev's? i though that mplayer was de-funct and the dev's now work on xbmc? aren't the dev's for each project one in the same?
no, they aren't. as far as i know mplayer isn't defunct, at least i hope not. but xbmc integrates mplayer code.
Gamester17
2004-02-19, 13:45
[quote=d0lby,feb. 15 2004,13:12]you should point it out to devs, but mplayer's devs (http://www.mplayerhq.hu), not xbmc http://www.xboxmediaplayer.de/forums/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gifwhy the mplayer dev's? i though that mplayer was de-funct and the dev's now work on xbmc? aren't the dev's for each project one in the same?
i believe you are thinking about xbox media player (also known as xbplayer and xbmp) (http://www.xboxmediaplayer.de), no developers from mplayer for linux (http://www.mplayerhq.hu) is working on xbmc. xbmc aduio/video player core is a port of mplayer for linux (http://www.mplayerhq.hu), we don't implement any codecs our selves directly into xbmc that mplayer (http://www.mplayerhq.hu) don't support. when/if a codec get's implemented into mplayer (http://www.mplayerhq.hu) then we can port that code over to xbmc. the xbmc devs has made it clear that they do not have the time and expertise to implement new codecs into mplayer (http://www.mplayerhq.hu) or xbmc's mplayer core (http://www.mplayerhq.hu) that isn't already supported by mplayer (http://www.mplayerhq.hu). hence if you want a new codec added then you have plede and beg to the mplayer devs (http://www.mplayerhq.hu) (subscribe to their mailing list/s and then send them e-mail's) to lobby them to code it. alternativly/additinaly you can plede and beg to the ffmpeg devs (http://ffmpeg.sf.net) to code support for the codec/s into ffmpeg (http://ffmpeg.sf.net) as mplayer (http://www.mplayerhq.hu) uses ffmpeg (http://ffmpeg.sf.net) and usually adds support for all codecs that ffmpeg (http://ffmpeg.sf.net) supports sooner or later.
oh, and no mplayer for linux (http://www.mplayerhq.hu) is not 'defunct', they are still in full development even though one main developer has left.
edit: ps! both openquicktime and quicktime 4 linux looks only to support the older quicktime 4, not qt 5, 6 or later (you must remember that quicktime .mov or .qt is not one codec or two but can be many different formats and versions for both audio and video)
i'm so sorry....
i guess i was a little tired, lol because i understand this all perfectly - sorry you had to write such a long reply! - sometime my mind does that - e.g. i read mplayer but in my mind i hear xbmp, it's so weird... so, replace mplayer with xmbp in my previous post :d
interesing, i jsut played a .mov file with mplayer, one worked, the other didn't. the one that worked ended up out putting this:
opening video decoder: [ffmpeg] ffmpeg's libavcodec codec family
i can post the rest of the log too if you want - it's interesting.... but mplayer does play it....
trying to play the same movie in xmbc does nothing... does xmbc output mplayer logs anywhere? this is what i get from xmbc.log:
20-02-2004 04:25:32 running the application...
20-02-2004 04:26:10 mplayer play:smb://192.168.1.21/ed2k/movies/rose-dec02-viggo.mortensen.talking.against.the.war.in.iraq.mo v
20-02-2004 04:26:11 mplayer generated exception!
is there a way to get mplayer to output more info?
Gamester17
2004-02-19, 18:07
mplayer (http://www.mplayerhq.hu) does support more qt codecs than xbmc (http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design6/info.html), but not through open source decoders but instead through libdll loading binary win32 or linux dll's. the xbox does not nativly support dll's but monkeyhappy has managed to get most real dll's codecs working in xbmc with libdll but after some hard work and long time since it's not easy getting dll's to work in xbmc/xbox. so it is possible, and probelt both faster and easier going the dll binary route (only because no open source decoders for qt exists) but who want's and can take the time to code it?
ahhhh interesting! i see! thanks for the reply!
please read this:
http://www.xboxmediaplayer.de/cgi-bin....;t=1921 (http://www.xboxmediaplayer.de/cgi-bin/forums/ikonboard.pl?act=st;f=4;t=1921)
frodo
DarkVamp
2004-04-25, 18:44
hi,
is there a chance to get any sound from quicktime movies ????
i would love to watch my trailers on tv....
http://www.apple.com/trailers/
not unless apple open source their codecs.
see also: http://www.xboxmediaplayer.de/cgi-bin....;t=1921 (http://www.xboxmediaplayer.de/cgi-bin/forums/ikonboard.pl?act=st;f=4;t=1921)
DarkVamp
2004-04-26, 07:19
hi,
but mplayer supports audio in quicktime6 (linux).
why did xbmc not use the windows dll' s ?
because it's not windows.
DarkVamp
2004-04-26, 14:36
hi,
is linux = windows ?
i thought xbmc uses the mplayer sources ot playback videos ?
and mplayer (this is a linux player) is using the windows dll' s to play quicktime6 with linux....
linux is an os that's been in development for a number of years. xbmc is not.
if you want to port the windows codecs to xbmc, go ahead.
DarkVamp
2004-04-26, 16:22
hi,
when looking into the mplayer sources i was thinking using the windows dll's has nothing to do with the os.
if it is => sorry http://www.xboxmediaplayer.de/forums/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif
dlls only load on windows. linux can load them through wine (though nearly all codecs in linux are either native linux or built into mplayer). xbmc has some limited support for dll loading, currently only the wmv/wma dlls work.
Gamester17
2004-04-26, 18:26
please read this:
http://www.xboxmediaplayer.de/cgi-bin....;t=1921 (http://www.xboxmediaplayer.de/cgi-bin/forums/ikonboard.pl?act=st;f=4;t=1921)
frodo
please read frodo's post linked above, it explains it a little better