AEON [ALPHA] (formerly "Xephyr"): Skin Release Thread

[ChoccyHobNob]

Any preference for resolution? I'd imagine doing them 1080 high would cover all possible future uses? I shall get on with creating them for the shows I have and put up a link here.

[Competes2win]

Binned, then.

Cheers for all your replies. The deciding factor is that, while I've read some passionate posts in favour of wide icons, none has convinced me that they're an essential part of Aeon. The only sticking point is that thetvdb.com won't support one-sheet images for the shows themselves, but I'm not going to let that dictate things. (Shame, though)

So, for this week's Summer of Aeon thing, first will come a big bundle of TV Show one-sheet icons. Just the shows, mind, the seasons already having one-sheet support on thetvdb.com. Just pop them in the folder each TV show and you can manually switch to them via the TV Info screen.

It'll be interesting to see whose passion for wide icons translates first into a mod. :;): Get it to a point where the basics work (layout, animation etc) and I don't mind helping you integrate it into the skin. It'll still be classed a mod, though.

Darn... This is indeed unsettling news for me. I just feel that the fact that the wide icons are standard for shows should dictate things... when it is standard for the vast majority of us, why not let it dictate things? It really will be a hassle to make posters for all of my tv shows, the old classic ones without any artwork to speak of found in a google search...

Anyhow, it's your skin and your call. I personally really like the vinci view incorporating wide icons with the tv info underneath, although a bigger sized icon would be nicer. and I feel that this view, or something similiar, would look nice in the aeon skin as well.

[Hitcher]

So, for this week's Summer of Aeon thing, first will come a big bundle of TV Show one-sheet icons. Just the shows, mind, the seasons already having one-sheet support on thetvdb.com. Just pop them in the folder each TV show and you can manually switch to them via the TV Info screen.

I've just realised this solves my dislike of the 'All seasons' icon and having to navigate deeper to get to the episodes if I now seperate each season into their own folder and do away with the wide icon.

[djh_]

Any preference for resolution? I'd imagine doing them 1080 high would cover all possible future uses? I shall get on with creating them for the shows I have and put up a link here.

There'll be two tiers, one at 600 high and the other 1000. Future-proofing's great and all, but try grabbing HD images for Alfred Hitchcock Presents and you'll see the problem.

(I did find one in the end.)

[jaredharley]

Love the latest update, it's looking great! I've got a question about fanart, though.

I installed yesterday's T3CH and alpha11 fresh this evening, and completely remade the whole videodb, and I'm still not getting fanart. I do have it enabled, and I am using tvdb.com. The show I was watching tonight was Stargate Atlantis, and I was looking at both the seasons and episodes view in showcase mode (the one where the images are all along the bottom). The background went to a nice frosted-white, which I am assuming is underneath the fanart when it is displayed. Is there anything else I'm missing that I need to get it to show?

Fixed my issue - it had nothing to do with Aeon or XBMC. At one point, I'd used the .nfo creator (http://xbmc.org/forum/showthread.php?t=31511) to save me from having to always download all the tv show information when I redid the videodb (this, of course, was before the process was revamped and is now much faster). Apparently, this was stopping XBMC from looking online for fanart and thumbs. Once I deleted all my .tbn and .nfo files and rescanned the shares, everything worked as it should, and now it's even more awesome!

[TheObo]

djh,

Love your work! I really like the way this is going - keep it up!

One issue I had with v10 (not sure if it's fixed in v11 - I've just downloaded it to install tonight) is that in TV and Movie views the "library" and "file" modes were the wrong way around. Whenever opening Movies or TV it would say "Library" by default, but be in File Mode, I had to change to File Mode to get it to show in Library mode... weird.

(I'm running on a standard XBOX) Is this a known issue?

[szsori]

Darn... This is indeed unsettling news for me. I just feel that the fact that the wide icons are standard for shows should dictate things... when it is standard for the vast majority of us, why not let it dictate things? It really will be a hassle to make posters for all of my tv shows, the old classic ones without any artwork to speak of found in a google search...

Anyhow, it's your skin and your call. I personally really like the vinci view incorporating wide icons with the tv info underneath, although a bigger sized icon would be nicer. and I feel that this view, or something similiar, would look nice in the aeon skin as well.

Agreed completely. Very disappointing, but it is your skin. Unfortunately it just means that many/most users of the TV section will be forced to either use list mode or switch to Project Fluid when it comes out. :/ My one concern is that you're basing the decision on the feedback of 3-4 people in the thread that don't like wide banners whereas the large majority of people really don't care. Oh well. :(

For anyone working on a mod, here's another idea that looks far better.
http://zsori.com/Domains/zsori/userimages/test2.jpg

It would work similar to how people spoke about the movie showcase view working, where you press up and down to scroll through them. It only shows one series at a time, but it definitely fits the theme better than my other mockup and should make most wide banner users happy.

edit: I'd do it myself, but my wife would kill me if I take on yet another project. ;)

[ChoccyHobNob]

I've just realised this solves my dislike of the 'All seasons' icon and having to navigate deeper to get to the episodes if I now seperate each season into their own folder and do away with the wide icon.

If you put the following into your advancedsettings.xml file

<advancedsettings>
<videolibrary>
<hideallitems>true</hideallitems>
</videolibrary>
</advancedsettings>

the All Seasons icons will go away :)

[szsori]

One issue I had with v10 (not sure if it's fixed in v11 - I've just downloaded it to install tonight) is that in TV and Movie views the "library" and "file" modes were the wrong way around. Whenever opening Movies or TV it would say "Library" by default, but be in File Mode, I had to change to File Mode to get it to show in Library mode... weird

That's the menu item for switching to Library or File mode, not a label showing which one you're currently in. Perhaps to clarify it should say "Go to Library mode" or "Go to File mode", but it's not that big of a deal.

[ChoccyHobNob]

There'll be two tiers, one at 600 high and the other 1000. Future-proofing's great and all, but try grabbing HD images for Alfred Hitchcock Presents and you'll see the problem.

(I did find one in the end.)

I'm having the same problem for The Second Coming and most of the David Attenborough wildlife stuff

600 and 1000 it is

[ChoccyHobNob]

My one concern is that you're basing the decision on the feedback of 3-4 people in the thread that don't like wide banners whereas the large majority of people really don't care.

I think the decision is mostly based on the fact the djh_ doesn't like the banners and its his skin, sounds fair enough to me! If we don't like it, we can either not use the skin or mod it to do what we want it to do. He's even offered to help integrate the mod if we make one, we can't really expect more than that!

[szsori]

I think the decision is mostly based on the fact the djh_ doesn't like the banners and its his skin, sounds fair enough to me! If we don't like it, we can either not use the skin or mod it to do what we want it to do. He's even offered to help integrate the mod if we make one, we can't really expect more than that!

I completely understand that. I was just making the point that there's something to be said for simplicity and making it easier on the bulk of people using the skin. As a developer and artist myself, I take issue with anyone trying to force a project in a direction when they're unwilling to contribute at all, so that wasn't my intention. I'm still hopeful djh will change his mind at some point, but until then (or until someone creates a mod) I guess list mode will have to work for those of us that don't want to create an entirely new banner set.

[Hitcher]

If you put the following into your advancedsettings.xml file

<advancedsettings>
<videolibrary>
<hideallitems>true</hideallitems>
</videolibrary>
</advancedsettings>

the All Seasons icons will go away :)

Thanks for that bit of info.

I did try putting my seasons in their own seperate folder but Library mode didn't like them like that.

[djh_]

Did someone mention The Second Coming?

http://www.aeoncentral.com/downloads/misc/aeontv_thesecondcoming.jpg

Least I could do for the man who turned off the All Seasons icons.

[sickboy719]

My 2 cents, which are probably worth slightly less.
I've used wide icons for my TV view since the day I first installed XBMC.
Mainly because that's what the scraper pulls. If it pulled icons, I'd probably use those.
I hadn't upgraded to v10 simply for that fact. But last night I put it on, and I really like every other aspect of the new version, with the exception of the lack of a wide TV view.

But after staring at the new skin for while, I realized that 90% of TV shows I have are on DVD, finding an appropriate 1 sheet icon won't be that hard. The question is, is it worth it?
I think that in my case, it is. I like the skin enough to find new icons.

I realized that I use the wide icons simply because that's the standard. And djh seems to be setting a new standard with every other aspect of this skin, why should my TV view be any different?

[zeuss-axis]

The wide icon issue is kind of a dead horse given that djh_ has spoken, but I can fall on two sides of this:

On one hand, the skin belongs to djh_ and especially given that he's open to helping a modder, the lobby should end there. As for convenience, How many of you constantly import new shows to your library? As with everything else in Aeon, it takes a little configuration to get things just the way you want them, but after that you don't have to touch it often.

On the other hand, I liked the wide icons-- not for any artistic value (they are a waste of real estate), but because it's a nice delineation from the movies, games, and music sections: movies uses one-sheets, games use icons, music uses cd cases...tv shows use banners. It's always been a nice touch and has separated XBMC from iTV and other HTPC options...

[Rand Al Thor]

I say let djh make his own decisions. I stand by the fact that no skinner/developer should ever add something they don't see using themselves. That is the way I have always done things so I definitely see where he is coming from. If you want something bad enough... do it yourself. That being said, when djh has a full feature set done for aeon (so that I don't have to keep updating it) I might take a break from my skin to make a mod for the new aeon. Nothing overly fancy. A wide view for tv, maybe a few other things.

Djh, feel free to pm me if you want. Cheers.

[rudeboyx]

I Fully Agree, As I Mentioned I Dont Want To Anoy DJH With Requests For Things He Clearley Dosent Want.

Like Rand Al Thor Said , Once The Skin Has Reached A More Complete State I May Even Try Making A Mod For A Wide Roller Type View If DJH dosent Have A Problem With Me Using His Music Roller As Some Kind Of Template.

[sickboy719]

I wasn't trying to beat the dead horse, jsut saying that while at first glance, it might seem a big deal, in reality it isn't, and may actually be better. I thought I needed it, but can live without it. Maybe even be better without it.

[Hitcher]

rudeboyx - not trying to be funny but do you have to capitalise the first letter of every word it's worse than reading all caps?

[rudeboyx]

SORRY bad HABIT ha HA ha

[rudeboyx]

my mok ups if anyones interested.

again, not trying to sway djh in anyway.

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/1416/smallthumbnx1.jpg

[xb2iris]

Keep it up... wide icons were cool, but it's not in the plan, so let the creator be the creator and create... we need to accomodate him, like he and he's amazing project have accomodated us... he didn't have to share it u know... lets just feel special and encourage the dude with good ideas and compliments...

YOU CAN DOOOOOO IT DJH!!!

[rudeboyx]

Also iv just tryed ChoccyHobNob's tip for removing all seasons selection in tv shows and it doesent seem to work. could there be a mistake with your post, because iv triple checked my advancedsettings.xml and iv inputted exactley as you wrote. All my other advancedsettings work fine so its not an error with the xml in general.

I would really like to get rid of the all seasons selection for the same reason,

[rudeboyx]

ignore that im such a plonker, i missed a /

[Kprojekt]

I'm having such a nice laugh over how this topic escalated. It's such a typical situation in my job. Art Director wishes to make a particular look, he put in the effort and everything make sense from a design perspective...along comes the producer "We did study and found out the public likes this feature" or "we've seen other companies do this, lets implement the same feature"

:rolleyes:

[ChoccyHobNob]

Did someone mention The Second Coming?

http://www.aeoncentral.com/downloads/misc/aeontv_thesecondcoming.jpg

Least I could do for the man who turned off the All Seasons icons.

Where did you find that! The best I could find was a 500px one from Amazon.com :)

As for the Attenborough stuff, I got some pretty usable images from a cover site which will look good once I've tweaked a bit

[ChoccyHobNob]

ignore that im such a plonker, i missed a /

So quadruple checking is the key!! ;)

[szsori]

I'm having such a nice laugh over how this topic escalated. It's such a typical situation in my job. Art Director wishes to make a particular look, he put in the effort and everything make sense from a design perspective...along comes the producer "We did study and found out the public likes this feature" or "we've seen other companies do this, lets implement the same feature"

This is a completely unrelated thing, but since I primarily work from the development side I'll chip in my $0.02. Many art people come up with excellent designs that are completely non-functional. This happens a lot when print designers try making the transition to the web, where they don't understand a thing about usability, web standards, etc. Also, even if the art is excellent, public perception is often key since that's what sells. I have an art background but I'm mainly a programmer, so I see both sides. Both sides are often wrong. ;)

The key is finding a nice balance which is what djh has done to this point. Doing something that works right but doesn't look that great will make people not want to use it. Making something that looks great but isn't functional will frustrate people and make them move on to another alternative.

/end threadjack ;)

[djh_]

I was actually so touched by the thought of people using XBMC to play David Attenborough documentaries that I rebuilt all of his covers from scratch. This, incidentally, is the resolution I'm using overall. Hopefully this'll reassure you that the same standards are being applied to this icon set as to the rest of Aeon. I've almost finished the A section! :sniffle:

http://www.aeoncentral.com/downloads/misc/aeontv_attenborough_lifeofbirds.jpg

http://www.aeoncentral.com/downloads/misc/aeontv_attenborough_lifeincoldblood.jpg

[ChoccyHobNob]

/me throws away the Attenborough icons I was making because djh_'s look better

[joebrady]

Here a nice wide icon for all!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v694/unclespellbinder/Animated/beating-a-dead-horse.gif

[Hitcher]

Will you be including the Showcase view in Files mode only I can't get seperate seasons to work properly in Library mode?

[djh_]

Already done.

[Hitcher]

Cheers.

Now to start making my own icons and have a go at some episode thumbs for Alias because the scrapped ones aren't that great to be honest.

[Forum]

well it seems I missed the whole debate over wide icons. I'm quite disappointed at the outcome, like quite a few im sure. :no: Anyways. Rand Al Thor please make this mod happen when you get the time. I think it will make Aeon look amazing. (no more talk about wide icons on my part I promise)

also I think thats awesome djh that you got the showcase view in files mode. I cant rely on my scrapers at all... my 2 xboxs seems to freeze while in showcase view on random occasions one with the XBMC-SVN_2008-06-16 and one on the XBMC-SVN_2008-05-18... (obviously in library mode)

[Livin]

I don't get the wide icon issue if there is fanart and you can make the entire background the "icon"?

[Weavus]

I don't get the wide icon issue if there is fanart and you can make the entire background the "icon"?
I think its more the show selection screen rather than the season or episode level where people really want wide icons. Personally I think it will look better with poster icons using the showcase view anyway...

[ewequeone]

i'm not specifically picking on you choccyhobnob, but your quote sums up what's happened pretty well. it's his skin, he can do what he wants ...

OR CAN HE?!

a quote from the aeoncentral website (bolding is mine):

Aeon is a new interface for Xbox Media Center that revolves entirely around the user, their tastes and their media.

I agree that it is djh_'s skin however, if it truly were to revolve entirely around the user and their tastes, it would seem that the majority want wide icons, therefore according to aeon's blurb, it should have them!

Meh, it's 7am, I've not slept, I'm still buzzing from the beer last night and I'm narky!

djh_, love your work man :)


I think the decision is mostly based on the fact the djh_ doesn't like the banners and its his skin, sounds fair enough to me! If we don't like it, we can either not use the skin or mod it to do what we want it to do. He's even offered to help integrate the mod if we make one, we can't
really expect more than that!

[Livin]

djh is a great guy and has accommodated many requests from many people... give him a break.

If you want to add a patch/change then mod the XML. If you want to make graphics changes, use the PSD. Everything is available.

djh was accommodating even before the site went up and gave them to me when I requested.

leave the guy to finish up his work the way HE wants to, then mod or ask for changes AFTER he's done.

Hopefully soon he will post to CVS and it will live with the rest of XBMC skins.

[djh_]

Doing this all for free and at breakneck speed means I don't have to argue semantics when it comes to the website. So I won't.

And never mind choccyhobnob feeling picked on - he's gonna shit when he sees this lot. The keen-eyed will notice that many, if not most of the images are different to the BBC ones. Usually that was because the hi-res originals weren't available, though it sometimes resulted in a better alternative being used. Like the lightning strike on that Chilean volcano - fucking Nora! Doing them all at once meant I could avoid the weird colour differences between the official covers, though I've sized and aligned the type pretty faithfully.

Anyway, they're all at that resolution I mentioned earlier (680x1000) and they're clean as a whistle. 15 in total, covering the Life series and Planet Earth. Fingers crossed, an early # / A section of the icon set goes up on the site in a few hours.

http://www.aeoncentral.com/downloads/misc/aeontv_attenboroughpreview.jpg

[ChoccyHobNob]

Holy crapola! Yes I'm liking the way you have captured the style of the originals, even sticking to the same animals in most cases but have used different better quality images :D

Please tell me Blue Planet is in the 15 you have done!

Who's picking on me??

[djh_]

Ohhh, Blue Planet. I'll see to that now.

[ChoccyHobNob]

i'm not specifically picking on you choccyhobnob, but your quote sums up what's happened pretty well. it's his skin, he can do what he wants ...

OR CAN HE?!

a quote from the aeoncentral website (bolding is mine):

Aeon is a new interface for Xbox Media Center that revolves entirely around the user, their tastes and their media.

Found it! :laugh:

If you think everything you read on websites is literally true, I think I should set up a website that says "ewequeone will donate $100 to my paypal account every month for the next 10 years" I could use the cash!...

Anyway I'd be taking your bolding to mean that "the user" is djh_ and his family :laugh:

[ChoccyHobNob]

Ohhh, Blue Planet. I'll see to that now.

Profit!! :grin:

This is the only other Icon I did that hasn't already been done better *sigh*

http://www.choccyhobnob.com/stuff/The_Human_Body.jpg

[Competes2win]

Sorry djh to bring this up again... but for anyone interested in adding a wide icon view via a mod I would like to second Szsori"s idea shown in this here (http://zsori.com/Domains/zsori/userimages/test2.jpg)

I probably could do it but won't at the moment since I have not enough time... perhaps after august 5 I will make an attempt, but by that time I may have gotten over the issue or as improbable as it seems, move on to a new skin, pending my opinions on the hopefully released vision 2 and fluid...

[djh_]

http://www.aeoncentral.com/posters.php?cat=a

Just #-A at the moment, though it'll fill up pretty rapidly.

[Kprojekt]

brilliant Djh!

Although is it really necessary to have that size? HD resolution is 1280×1080 so would those thumbnails ever be seen at the size they currently are?

[djh_]

Better to err on the side of higher res, don't you think? It's not like it's a disadvantage.

[Kprojekt]

Well I'm curious if there is a performance hit once you start loading tons of tv episodes on screen. When it's higher resolution then your display screen it will not make it any more detailed, you can't cram more pixels into a small area.

[Ayla]

How do I display all my movie and TV show poster at the best possible resolution in AEON?

I'm using OSXBMC on an iMac, so I can use the highest possible resolution.

Is the only setting I need to change, the one in advancedsettings.xml and what is the highest number I can put there?

Thanks for this amazing skin djh, I'll never use anything else :)

[ChoccyHobNob]

<thumbsize>

Size of the square in pixels that XBMC will use to cache thumbnail images. If the thumb is smaller than this size it will be cached as-is. If it is larger it will be scaled to within this square. Default is 192, which refers to 192x192 = 36864 pixels in total. The thumbnail will be cached at using the same aspect ratio as the original image, using up to 36864 pixels.

[djh_]

There shouldn't be any problem with performance. Xbox XBMC will just cache the icons at whatever resolution's defined in advancedsettings.xml; Linux should have the resources to deal with whatever.

[Weavus]

So what value do you have set in advancedsettings? What's the optimum size for Aeon in 1080p?

[djh_]

512 would mean optimum quality for Xbox. Would probably kill the Wall views, though. Linux doesn't even use advancedsettings anymore, from what I can tell - just defaults to hi-res.

[zeuss-axis]

djh_ --
Just a friendly note to let you know that your menu at aeoncentral is shifted...the Forum link takes you to mods, and the guestbook to forum, etc...looks like the map may be off by a bit.

[djh_]

Refresh your browser. Like, proper refresh.

[zeuss-axis]

Refresh your browser. Like, proper refresh.

A-ha! Posters!

[Kprojekt]

There shouldn't be any problem with performance. Xbox XBMC will just cache the icons at whatever resolution's defined in advancedsettings.xml; Linux should have the resources to deal with whatever.

Well in the next few weeks I'll be making a linux box. Have to find the proper parts, hopefully HDMI, and of course Aeon loaded with backdrops.

Though I'm confused about a few things; the boot rate of the linux compared to the xbox, does a dvd player work, and does it autostart? Mehhh, I'll axe these in the linux forum.

[zeuss-axis]

Say - Is it worth my while to hunt down, format, and link you guys to posters, or is it better to leave it to the developers? I've got a good source for TV posters that will resize nicely to 680x1000...

[Rand Al Thor]

@djh
Just read the linux changelog and it looks like local moviefanart is now available. I will probably spend this afternoon fiddling with it to get it working in my old mod for personal use and to figure out how to incorporate it into my new skin. Not sure yet if you can browse for it but from the changelog it looks like it must be stored with the movie. Just a heads up for you. Cheers.

[rudeboyx]

DJH, are the new posters on your site suposed to be season or series thumbs, because if the suposed to be series thumbs you are using seson thumbs for some.

for instance your american dad and brass eye thumbs are definatley season 1 thumbs and i thought the point of the new posters you were doing were to do away with wide icons for series.

for instance i would have the same thumb displayed for my american dad for main series and season1 thumb and the same for brass eye.

please ignore me if you are just making a refined hd selection for us for series and season thumbs.

[DreamStatic]

Say - Is it worth my while to hunt down, format, and link you guys to posters, or is it better to leave it to the developers? I've got a good source for TV posters that will resize nicely to 680x1000...

I am always up for more good sources for artwork. So please share if you can. Thanks for the offer. :)

[djh_]

@rudeboyx

They're thumbnails for series. Given that any season text has been carefully stripped from the posters, if the artwork happens to be the same as for a specific season of a show, I don't see the problem. There is only one series of Brass Eye, for instance - are you proposing I somehow magic up some new artwork? I don't understand your criteria.

[neal73]

Enough about the tv and movies, how about an update on the music side of Aeon?!! ;)

[Delver]

djh_, just like to say thank you so much for this skin, it's the nicest I've used by a long shot! Like others, the only reason I used wide icons was because that's what automatically downloaded to the xbox from tvdb. But i'm more than happy to use the Poster icons! Just wondering, where do you get the source material for the poster icons? I'm thinking of making some myself, and sharing them if people want.

[joncgde2]

ahh let me add my voice to the hundreds already who have said this skin is top notch!

djh, i don't know where you got the idea for this but shit you are a genius because it looks fantastic... the showcase view for movies/tv shows are just AMAZING... really loving this skin

great work mate :;):

[Hitcher]

You can get DVD covers from tvdb.

eg Alias Season 1 (http://thetvdb.com/?tab=season&seriesid=75930&seasonid=9466&lid=7)

[Ayla]

-> djh

Will "Showcase" view be available for File view?

I don't use Library :)

/Martin

[Hitcher]

-> djh

Will "Showcase" view be available for File view?

I don't use Library :)

/Martin

Should answer your question -

Will you be including the Showcase view in Files mode only I can't get seperate seasons to work properly in Library mode?

Already done.

[hired goon]

G'day,

I want the best looking skin for XBMC, and IMHO that is Aeon. If the design is not suited to wide banners, then so long wide banners. I only have wide banners coz of XBMC's automagic scraping anyway, so for now I guess I'm gunna have to set images manually, but I can live with that, so long as totally sweet posters are readily available.

Hopefully one day Aeon and image scrapers will play together nicely. It's so sweet to have XBMC just take care of images etc and it's a shame to lose that aspect.

--Geoff

[djh_]

I may as well echo the post elsewhere about 100 wallpapers going up last night. And when it comes it scrapers, remember that it's just the TV show root folders you need to set manually - the seasons and episodes are still covered by thetvdb.com.

[Hitcher]

Just got them thanks.

My TV Shows are looking really nice now I've changed over to posters.

So when's todays update due?

[djh_]

This evening. It'll be nothing quite as major as last time, though I'll leave in the aborted Wide icon view, albeit disabled by default. Biggest feature, I guess, is the addition of Showcase to file views.

In order to fix the smaller issue of a stubborn loading pause when switching from Music Wall to List, I've set the backdrop to display whenever you're in the Music window, essentially pre-loading it during the Wall view. If this causes memory problems for anyone, let me know.

[neal73]

djh - any chance of clearing up the full screen music visualisation screen and getting the album art to display correctly? It's the only thing stopping me using the updated skin.

thanks.

[djh_]

Why not, eh? I'll look into it.

[neal73]

thanks for that. Any chance of a coffee and a jaffa cake while your at it?!

[zeuss-axis]

I am always up for more good sources for artwork. So please share if you can. Thanks for the offer. :)

I searched for shows I was interested in at movieposterdb.com and they have a ton of Hi-Res options available...unfortunately you have to pay ~$5 for 50/100 downloads, so it might be better for a couple of people to coordinate which letters to pull and format, in order to minimize overlap. I'm definitely willing to help...

djh_: Given that you've got a good head start in this dept, are you willing to delegate out parts of the alphabet to ease your pain and give us knuckle-draggers a way to contribute? :-)

[djh_]

It's okay - I'm a regular movieposterdb patron and have a great many other sources to boot, not to mention a bit of Photoshop trickery. More useful would be an idea of shows people want that I may have missed, as I don't have a universal knowledge of popular TV. Just PM me any notable oversights - which doesn't mean Can't Cook, Won't Cook and Fred Dibner's Interesting Chimneys, or whatever it's called.

[Hitcher]

which doesn't mean Can't Cook, Won't Cook and Fred Dibner's Interesting Chimneys, or whatever it's called.

Damn, I was just about to PM you.:;):

Anyway, I'm so pleased with how TV Shows now look I thought I'd post some pics of how they look and say thanks.

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk146/HitcherUK/screenshot011.jpg

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk146/HitcherUK/screenshot010.jpg

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk146/HitcherUK/screenshot001.jpg

[zeuss-axis]

Hitcher - How do you have your tv show files structured? I've been doing \Show\Season\Files, but I like the function in your screens above a hell of a lot more...

[Hitcher]

I just put each season in it's own folder (eg 'American Dad! - Season 1', 'American Dad! - Season 2', etc) straight in the 'TV Shows' folder. The only problem is scanning them all in seperately (See this thread - TVDB scraper and Season folders (http://xbmc.org/forum/showthread.php?t=34226)).

[Delver]

Damn, I was just about to PM you.:;):

Anyway, I'm so pleased with how TV Shows now look I thought I'd post some pics of how they look and say thanks.

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk146/HitcherUK/screenshot011.jpg


His eyes pierce my soul...

[Competes2win]

I just put each season in it's own folder (eg 'American Dad! - Season 1', 'American Dad! - Season 2', etc) straight in the 'TV Shows' folder. The only problem is scanning them all in seperately (See this thread - TVDB scraper and Season folders (http://xbmc.org/forum/showthread.php?t=34226)).

Kind of an interesting way of doing things... I like it. However I would probably find it frustrating going through 7 seasons of smallville just to get to Terminator: the sarah connor chronicles... one example.

looking at these posters i do indeed prefer these over the wideicons, however it would be quite difficult I believe to make quality posters for some of my classic shows. Examples of shows I'm talking about are: Gargoyles, Alex Mack, ducktales, fullhouse, goosebumps, the magic school bus, smurfs, captain planet, you get the picture...

@djh: some posters that I believe are popular that have not been added yet include 8 simple rules, and the big bang theory... great work.

[crni]

Anyway, I'm so pleased with how TV Shows now look I thought I'd post some pics of how they look and say thanks.[/IMG]
I don't actually use XBMC (just browsing around) so maybe I'm missing something obvious here but I don't get it... why is there CSI fanart while selecting futurama or firefly fanart when selecting spooks...? shouldn't fanart match series ?

[Hitcher]

I don't actually use XBMC (just browsing around) so maybe I'm missing something obvious here but I don't get it... why is there CSI fanart while selecting futurama or firefly fanart when selecting spooks...? shouldn't fanart match series ?

Not when browsing the TV Shows folders it doesn't because you scroll through the list so fast it would probably crash XBMC. It does show the Fanart when you actually enter the show you want where it'll also display the episode thumbs.

[Hitcher]

Kind of an interesting way of doing things... I like it. However I would probably find it frustrating going through 7 seasons of smallville just to get to Terminator: the sarah connor chronicles... one example.

Each to their own I suppose.

I just hated having to navigate the show, then the seasons and then the episodes and scrolling past lots of seasons of the same show doesn't take any time at all.

[djh_]

Alex Mack, ducktales...

You might want to refresh the Posters page before making such outlandish claims. :;):

[Rand Al Thor]

I don't actually use XBMC (just browsing around) so maybe I'm missing something obvious here but I don't get it... why is there CSI fanart while selecting futurama or firefly fanart when selecting spooks...? shouldn't fanart match series ?

Actually if I remember correctly they have added the option to show fanart at the tvshow level. You could probably just put a delay on it so that it will only show if you hover on an item for more than x# of seconds. That would cut down on the crazy switching of large images.

[neal73]

You might want to refresh the Posters page before making such outlandish claims. :;):

Any chance of a decent Doctor Who one?

[djh_]

Done.

[Competes2win]

You might want to refresh the Posters page before making such outlandish claims. :;):

yaaaaa! Duck Tales! lol, and I never even knew jessica alba made an appearance in alex mack.... Anyways, I'm liking the speed at which these posters are being added. Great quality work. I'm rooting for this, and when you're brainstorming over which shows to provide, don't forget those old classics. Keep up the good work.

[Ayla]

Thanks for Showcase view in File mode! :)

Can't wait for the new release.. Gettin close?

You're not quite at "D" yet, but don't forget "Extras" for the TV Show posters :D

[djh_]

You're not quite at "D" yet, but don't forget "Extras" for the TV Show posters :D

Keep up!

:;):

[jeppster]

I understand S is a little way off, but I cannot find any sort of images I could use as a TV show poster for the show Still Standing. If you can when you get there, I would be much obliged. Aeon rocks!

[djh_]

The update is coming, folks. Some real life stuff got in the way. Give it a few hours.

[AaronD]

I was, and still am rooting for wide icons in Aeon one day. But I am in awe of the speed with which you work, and that you haven't just said "no wide icons and be damned" but have actually provided people with an alternative.

You're a machine!

[keland44]

yea great work djh i love the backgrounds so much that i've added them to a desktop randomizer so i have it switched every minutes
and all the chances to aeon have been great it's really coming together great job keep it up
now if only i could get my dvd iso's to work so i can get aeon up and running thanks again

[zeuss-axis]

Ready...set...go!

[djh_]

ALPHA11a is now up, adding Showcase for file windows and a few other bits besides. I've decided to leave the aborted wide icon view (dubbed Banner here) in for TV shows; seemed a bit needless removing them when they could just be left disabled by default.

The music visualisation overlays at least align properly now, the CD cover fading in before swapping with the track info. Because the safer option should always be the default, the track info will fade out after a few seconds to prevent burn-in. There's an option in the Aeon menu, however, to leave it there permanently. The Music OSD menu, however, is still unfinished.

In order to smooth out a nasty transition between Wall and List views in the music window, I've left the backdrops running behind the Wall view, effectively pre-loading them for when you switch to List. If this causes memory problems for Xbox users, let me know.

You'll also notice the beginnings of an improved generic List view in this version. As yet, it only supports Poster-ratio icons. This isn't a bug or an oversight, just a feature waiting to go in.

All other changes are tweaks to Aeon's overall animations, a few more fade times synchronised and some nice sliding added to the Music Roller. I'm quite busy with actual work over the coming weeks so don't expect the File Manager to appear just yet. Rest assured, though, that it's not going to be some half-arsed job when it does, and will make full use of the screen.

The TV posters on the website are up to F now, btw.

www.aeoncentral.com

[joncgde2]

awesome work djh, these updates are much appreciated :)

this morning i decided i'd take a shot of a small quirk that i came across in the alpha11 build... seeing that you just posted 11a i'm not sure if this has been dealt with so i'll just post it anyway... for the record i'm running the latest t3ch build (16 June) and alpha11

a small quirk with weather:

http://img2.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/e721dfa9ea.jpg

as you can see the 'current' temperature doesn't seem to be aligned


a closer view:

http://img2.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/a99622b412.jpg

also, there doesn't seem to be a settings option to choose weather region... i had to go to PM3 to set this and then return to aeon (whereupon it displays the correct region's temperature)

also one small suggestion (take it or leave it)... for the current tempoerature, your heading is 'today' - would it be more intuitive to rename it to 'current' or 'currently'? 'today' seems to suggest like an overall forecast for the day as opposed to what the weather is at the moment

anyway issues aren't a big deal, just thought i'd let you know (at least about the alignment quirk) anyway

loving the new features, thanks for your hard work :)

[djh_]

The Weather problems are known issues.

[pantherman007]

Love the skin more with each release!

Something small that would help me and maybe others is a tweak to the display when scanning in content. Right now I see "smb://192.168.1.201/media/video/movies/" and nothing else - the actual movie names don't show because of the long path name uses up all of the display space. Could the first part of the pathname be dropped from display while working through the movie list, or the alignment moved more toward the middle of the screen?

[gummismurfen]

djh is there any chance that you could get a poster of tv show carlifonication?

[joebrady]

push up at the weather page to find the settings

[szsori]

ALPHA11a is now up, adding Showcase for file windows and a few other bits besides. I've decided to leave the aborted wide icon view (dubbed Banner here) in for TV shows; seemed a bit needless removing them when they could just be left disabled by default.

Thank you. :) Your reward is me posting to the other people that have input on my site about hosting the "dvd cover" format for series banners. I know that's not why you did it, but after seeing the work you guys are putting into these they might as well get a proper home.

[joebrady]

ALPHA11a is now up, adding Showcase for file windows and a few other bits besides. I've decided to leave the aborted wide icon view (dubbed Banner here) in for TV shows; seemed a bit needless removing them when they could just be left disabled by default.

The TV posters on the website are up to F now, btw.

www.aeoncentral.com

So after all the debate about wide icons, you decided to leave them in? Did I understand that correct? But...I didn't see any banner option...? Did you have a change or heart at the last second?

Poster Request: Army Wives

As always thanks for all the hard work you've put into this great looking skin!

[Rand Al Thor]

@joebrady
You have to go into the Aeon settings and enable it.

I actually spent a little bit of time tonight tinkering around with a vertical scrolling wide icon info view, but to be honest I am starting to sway towards djh. There just doesn't seem to be a real logic reason to have movie posters one way and Tv shows extra wide. Just some thoughts.

@djh

Great work on the new update, looks amazing as always. I mentioned before that moviefanart is now available as well. I was thinking it would be great if while browsing movies if you hover on an item until it shows the info it would also switch the background to moviefanart. That would cut down on the constant image changing. I thought Tvshow series level could work the same way as well. You hover on a tv series until the info pops up and the fanart shows up as well. I remember JM saying something about using fanart at the series level not too long ago, so it should be possible. Anyway, if you are interested in some help, I would be willing to put some work into making at least that part happen. Let me know. Cheers.

[neal73]

Duncan, you're a fecking star! The coffee and Jaffa cakes are on me.

[szsori]

If I wanted to restrict these banners to a specific resolution on the site, what would be ideal? If it's high, it would force artists for older shows to assemble multiple images as people have done for fan art. If it's low, XBMC will stretch them on certain skins/resolutions. Season banners on the site are currently 400x578, which might be a little small.

[neal73]

Is there anyway to have the album art and the info both onscreen at the same time on full screen visualisation or would I have to amend the xml file for it?

Any plans on adding more views for the games sections? I use the titled cover art from mediaicons, and in posterview they get stretched vertically.


Apart from that, loving the new version - the tv and movie sections are perfect now.

[budwize]

hi DJH just wanted to know if you had finsihed all the posters in a-e
i jsut ask because i cant see californication, eli stone there and saw you had moved onto teh next part of the alphabet

also top stuff with showcase viewin files mode :)
now i get the good view while being able to split DVdrips with HD stuff

[Ayla]

--> djh

When hovering on a movie in Showcase view (File mode), nothing happens?

The movie info doesn't pop up.

Am I doing anything wrong? (using Alpha11a and latest OSXBMC).

[budwize]

anyone know how to get rid of the *all seasons link and the ".."

i like showcase view for a tv show that has more than 1 season
but i dont like the 2 empty boxes for * all seasons and the .. to go back
as i can just hit back on keyboard

[Hitcher]

--> djh

When hovering on a movie in Showcase view (File mode), nothing happens?

The movie info doesn't pop up.

Am I doing anything wrong? (using Alpha11a and latest OSXBMC).

Only works in Library mode.

anyone know how to get rid of the *all seasons link and the ".."

Someone kindly told me the other day how to remove 'All seasons'.

<advancedsettings>

<videolibrary>
<hideallitems>true</hideallitems>
</videolibrary>

</advancedsettings>

As for the ".." (Parent Folder) - Settings -> Appearance -> View Options -> Hide Parent Folder Items.

[djh_]

@szsori: I'd go with the dimensions I'm currently using - either 680x1000 or 408x600. That's the correct ratio for a promotional poster and would make it compliant with the work I've done so far. If you do decide to host posters for TV shows, I can send you the entire batch I've done so far, which'll be a helluva lot bigger by the end of today. I'm certainly not uploading them one-by-one through a web form, though. :eek:

Bear in mind that if you choose to specify a different resolution, which is of course your prerogrative, I can't help you out with any content. I don't have time, sadly, to rearrange/resize all the stuff I've done so far.

EDIT: Oh, and Californication has a poster now. Had to do them from scratch, mind - couldn't find one anywhere.

[Hitcher]

Small request - TV Show Episode View in File Mode?

[Hitcher]

Switching to Library mode in TV Shows starts playing a DVD.

[mfwilli]

If I may request a TV poster:

Batman: The Animated Series. Please.

I currently have an icon I made by searching for "batman the animated series logo" at deviantart.com...

Great work!

[hicaow]

great updates as usual! thank you.

i know i sound like a broken record but we need the shutdown bar back with the right thumbstick click, have to be able to set sleep somehow and shutdown sucks because you have to hit back a bunch of times and than down and over a few. :]

oh and don't forget wide icon view for programs .. :]

[Hitcher]

Here's a challenge for you - 'You've Been Framed' poster.:;):

[djh_]

Switching to Library mode in TV Shows starts playing a DVD.

I'm glad someone's pointed this out. I've no idea why it happens - it's been doing it for ages. It's fucking annoying when you're listening to music. I'll double check that it's not skin-related before raising it as a bug.

EDIT: That was a quick fix. I guess the button id I was using for the Library button was doubling as a Play DVD command. Sorted now.

[Hitcher]

I originally thought it was the PC build causing it (I had a DVD in the drive at the time) until my music stopped playing on the Xbox as well.

[joebrady]

great updates as usual! thank you.

i know i sound like a broken record but we need the shutdown bar back with the right thumbstick click, have to be able to set sleep somehow and shutdown sucks because you have to hit back a bunch of times and than down and over a few. :]

Or you could get one or these. XERC2 (http://diy.sickmods.net/Our_Products/XERC_2/About/) The best mod I ever did to my box.

[Tension113]

I kinda like the wide icons.. I had some pretty sorry looking ones in the beginning, but there's some pretty nice icons available now.. I do agree that finding a good way to display them though isn't the best.. So I'm going to try your way out.. Showcase view looks great anyway..

Awesome work so far.. Don't know how you find the time to do so much at once,(especially with everyone's constant input) but you're doing a great job.. Thank you for sharing..

As for the icons.. Only shows I have that I haven't noticed icons for yet are Dirty Jobs, Deadliest Catch, Death Note,Ghost Hunters, and of course Heroes..

[Razor_109]

I really like this skin, and got it all setup and working.. still got 2 questions:

1. Menu 'Movie Information' of TVShow Information' is transparant and almost unreadable.. no black background.. is this a known issue or something wrong at my end?

2. And last question, is there ever planned to implemend some kind of Apple Movie Trailer Skin or somekinda way to make the script work under this skin? Have to switch to PMIII to get it working..

Thanks,

Razor

[Kprojekt]

Great work Duncan, I've been creating my own posters for some TVshows...super quick and dirty google search but I come back to Aeoncentral for an update and you already uploaded every show I've setup. Damn you sir, damn you for being so resourceful! :)

I have not tried out the latest version but did you manage to fix the selection bug? When in library mode; every time you go deeper into the TVshows the selection is reset. So you have to press down arrow on the remote. It would be great if the selection was automatically on the first poster in view or even the step up icon.

On the topic of the step up icon "..." Would you consider replacing this with a graphic? I can do a quick mockup for you to use.http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll169/kproj/backtrack.jpg

[djh_]

The selection bug isn't fixed, sadly. I do appreciate how annoying it is, though, so I'll investigate this evening. It's easy to forget that everything that occurs within the TV and Movie libraries stems from the one file, MyMovieNav.xml, which of course has just the one default control parameter. So when it comes to bringing that under control, there aren't that many options available.

As for the icons, I'll be announcing something along those lines shortly. Exciting stuff.

[Weavus]

The selection bug is my number one issue with the skin... the mother-in-law just can't grasp the idea no matter how many times I try to explain. Hope you manage to find a workaround...

[djh_]

Same with the wife. :(

[neal73]

And my daughter!

[KevinSartori]

Just installed the new build. Lookin' good!

This is a pretty minor bug, but I figured I'd report it anyway. In the Aeon option screen, the second option tab, Home Shortcuts, has two columns. In the second column (the one that starts Set Clips Show Target), when you scroll all the way to the bottom, instead of returning to to the top, it throws you over to the fourth tab Features. Minor, but I noticed it in the last build also and forgot to mention it.

BTW, I love the new Showcase mode! I keep my Movies in Library mode and TV Shows in Files mode, so it's great that they both have a consistent look! I think it would be cool to have a "square" Showcase mode for Music. Don't get me wrong, I like the Roller, but Showcase mode is it! 'Course, it would be even better if it was presented in a kind of "LP" mode, without the CD case. This way you wouldn't have to stretch the album cover graphic to fit the box. It kind of bugs me a little bit to see the more rectangular cover scans distorted that way. I'm sure that changing the aspect ratio doesn't bother most folks, but there has to be some folks out there who think like I do. :)

Then again, on second thought, maybe not!!!

Thanks again for all of the hard work you're putting into this skin! It's breathed new life into XBMC!

[djh_]

I've added about 35 posters to the existing TV sections (A-I).

[Hitcher]

The selection bug isn't fixed, sadly. I do appreciate how annoying it is, though, so I'll investigate this evening. It's easy to forget that everything that occurs within the TV and Movie libraries stems from the one file, MyMovieNav.xml, which of course has just the one default control parameter. So when it comes to bringing that under control, there aren't that many options available.

Excuse my ignorance in this but would it work if when entering the library (either forwards or backwards) there was no item focused until you press left or right for the videos or up or down for the settings?

[djh_]

Excuse my ignorance in this but would it work if when entering the library (either forwards or backwards) there was no item focused until you press left or right for the videos or up or down for the settings?

You know what, you might have something there. An invisible default control might well do the trick. I'll give it a try.

[budwize]

Hitcher: thanks for that both features i have now removed :)

DJH: thanks for californication

[Reddog]

Does anyone know what file this is in (see ref below) with the OS X version of xbmc? I have looked at everything. Thanks.


Someone kindly told me the other day how to remove 'All seasons'.

<advancedsettings>

<videolibrary>
<hideallitems>true</hideallitems>
</videolibrary>

</advancedsettings>

[Nuka1195]

advancedsettings.xml in userdata

[Reddog]

This is odd. With the OS X version of xbmc you have a userdata folder in 2 spots. One is within application package and then in the library/applicationsupport/xbmc folder. However, neither has an advancesettings.xml document. Am I missing something?


advancedsettings.xml in userdata

[jmarshall]

You must create it yourself.

[zeuss-axis]

poster for Penn & Teller's Bullsh*t (does this belong in B or P?)...had to create it myself, so it maynot be ideal. but looks fine...

http://rockbottomdecoysystem.com/bullshit_poster.jpg

[Competes2win]

hey djh: just a friendly question, are you planning on reinstating the old picture views?

[Competes2win]

Also, good job with those posters... is see you added the big bang theory, my favorite.

[Livin]

hey djh: just a friendly question, are you planning on reinstating the old picture views?

I echo this... I loved the "snapshot" style. Maybe you can implement it using the new 'showcase' style?

Also, is it possible to give border options for the showcase? I find the border distracting, e.g. too thick. Wonder if it i possible to give 3 options for border thickness and allow to choose via the AEON menu?

[ewaterke]

Hi djh,

First of all thanks again for his amaizing skin. I'm quite impressed by the time spending for the skin, the posters, the web site, ....

As I you seem to be a perfectionnist, I would like to mention you a small "default" that I've found:
When viewing a TV show, if you press pause or menu, the new OSD is coming. The problem with TV show is that the aspect ratio of the picture in this OSD is not correct (screenshots from TV show are different format that posters from movies).

Aside of this minor remark, I've also a question:
Which view do you use for the seasons ?
I would like to use "showcase" but I do not want to have the season tumbs repeated all accross the screen (if you see what I mean). Is there something that I can do to avoid this ?

Regards,

Eric

[Weavus]

I would like to use "showcase" but I do not want to have the season tumbs repeated all accross the screen (if you see what I mean).
Yes, I was thinking the same thing. For showcase views I think I'd prefer it if it would only show the items that were available and not repeat them as it looks strange when you only have 2-3 seasons of a series.

[szsori]

Hmm. I upgraded to the latest version and I still don't see list mode in Clips. Based on the settings it's supposed to be in there. Is mine broken? :)

[Rand Al Thor]

DJH,

Nice to see you are taking advantage of movie fanart. I wasn't sure if you had seen my posts about it in the sea of words that this thread has become ;) I have been tinkering around with it a bit myself today and the images do disappear rather abruptly when you navigate away from them. Perhaps if you put a delay on the images so they only appear once the movie info has slid into view and then add an animation/fade/effect for when the movie info disappears it will *hide* the abrupt change? Just a thought. Cheers.

[xb2iris]

Movie fanart will be super... got all mine waiting on my Pc... so I can't wait... GOOD LUCK with the abrupt dissapearing act... but you two putting your heads together can't go wrong!!!

[djh_]

There's no way round the movie art transition thing, unfortunately. The nature of it means you'd have to add a delay actually navigating between items, which is something no one would want. That said, the skin already does it when pulling out of TV show containers, but because the view and icons change it hides the switch.

It's not awful, tbh. So long as you leave the regular backdrops running behind the fanart, you at least avoid the worst case scenario: a black backdrop. It's just something you'll have to endure if you want movie art.

No doubt there'll be umpteen posts from people running old versions of XBMC saying it doesn't work. :rolleyes:

[budwize]

hi DJH,
can i please make a request for eli Stone TV poster,

cheers,
BuD

[Rand Al Thor]

That said, the skin already does it when pulling out of TV show containers, but because the view and icons change it hides the switch.


That is kind of what I was suggesting earlier. Maybe you could make a "scene change" effect that occurs when the info displays and when it disappears to hide the change.

Also, it is pretty well established that .bmp loads faster than .jpg or .png correct? Maybe we can convince spiff to allow .bmp for movie fanart and to exclude any .tbn from the multiimage control so you could put all your movies and fanarts (plus any images for movies you might not have) all in one folder and you wouldn't get .tbn's of dvd covers showing up as backgrounds. Not a huge deal but it would cut down on redundancy. Cheers.

[Competes2win]

hey djh, don't judge my tv show selection lol but would you consider doing a Laguna Beach poster?

Once I get the majority of the popular shows, I'll find some sort of poster for my rare shows and make the switch from wide icons.

[djh_]

Also, it is pretty well established that .bmp loads faster than .jpg or .png correct?

It does, though it's academic in my case because I've got a delay on the fade-in already. If you have it set to immediately load the artwork, you end up with hitches while you scan through the movies. I would like to see the ability to have folders of images cycle for single listitem objects, though. Would be great for TV shows.

[djh_]

Much as I appreciate the enthusiasm, can I call a halt to the requests for posters? Not that you can't make them - just don't make them in the thread. PM me instead.

Ta.

[zeuss-axis]

[QUOTE=Hitcher;193815]
Someone kindly told me the other day how to remove 'All seasons'.

<advancedsettings>

<videolibrary>
<hideallitems>true</hideallitems>
</videolibrary>

</advancedsettings>
[\QUOTE]

SeemslikeI've read it a million places, but an't seem to find it-- where exactly do younee to create advancedsettings.xml in the Windows version with the -p option?

[Reddog]

And one last question...does it go in the userdata folder in the library/application/xbmc or in the application/osxbmc/resources/userdata folder? This is for the OS X version of XBMC.

You must create it yourself.

[szsori]

Hmm. I upgraded to the latest version and I still don't see list mode in Clips. Based on the settings it's supposed to be in there. Is mine broken? :)

Bump? :(

[japhule]

^^ No list mode for me either in Clips, which I would like to see working also. This is on my xbox and list mode is selected in Aeon settings.

[japhule]

While playing a dvd, the root menu option in the OSD menu doesn't seem to take me back to the dvd menu, it stops the video and takes me back to xbmc. Is anyone else getting this? Works fine when I switch back to PM3.

[Hitcher]

Where have the sounds gone by the way?

[neal73]

^^ No list mode for me either in Clips, which I would like to see working also. This is on my xbox and list mode is selected in Aeon settings.

Not for me either, and I'm up to date with aeon and XBMC on my xbox. Shame as I use clips for Kids TV (just rename the homescroller) and Adults for Music Videos.

[djh_]

List view is fixed.

Sounds were removed because I don't want navigation sounds anymore. They're unnecessary and annoying.

[Hitcher]

OK.

You know what, you might have something there. An invisible default control might well do the trick. I'll give it a try.
Any luck with this?

[djh_]

Haven't tried it yet - I'll do it tonight. Don't see why it wouldn't work.

[smcnally75]

djh, site broken? I just went to download the latest and can't get on the site at all.

[djh_]

Down. Another great webhost. :rolleyes:

EDIT: Aha. Normal service is restored.

[zeuss-axis]

so who's got a good source for music backdrops? Not so much into Mariah Carey myself...

[djh_]

Some news:

Movie fanart is now working. There's a hidden control in place to prevent any premature loading (i.e. before the Showcase animation has finished), which means no possibility of hitches or judders while browsing or whatever. I've noticed you can still use TIFF/BMP files so long as they have a .jpg extension. Movie art fades in a split-second after the info appears and vanishes (no fade, sadly) when you move off the listitem. Thankfully, the switch back to icons from info covers the abrupt change. Pics below.

The issues with default control selection while browsing in Showcase/Episode have essentially been fixed. Things are certainly one helluva lot better than they were. Thankfully, it didn't require anything as extreme as an invisible control - just a bit of rewiring behind the scenes.

I'm away for the weekend and super-busy on Friday, so there'll be an Aeon update tomorrow night instead, you lucky buggers.

This version features something originally pencilled in for beta but too darn sexy to leave any longer. It's nothing major, just the first of several "special effects" I have planned. You'll like it.

Animation synchronisation continues and Aeon is now snappier overall.

No, I haven't waved the magic wand, rubbed the lamp and pulled a full-featured music section from my arse. You'll have to wait.

The poster section on the website is now complete, at least in terms of covering every letter of the alphabet. Updates will follow as and when appropriate, which means when I have time rather than when people pester.

And on that note...

Now that Aeon's features are slowly solidifying, I should probably set a few ground rules. The first involves reminding everyone that the TV show poster library on the website, which somehow hosts over 700 posters already, did not come cheap. It cost time (about 24 hours in less than a week) and money (about £50 for assets). So treat it with respect. There's neither excuse nor reason to hop on there with site-ripping software and leech everything, screwing up my bandwidth, or hotlink elsewhere. Those images are there explicitly to serve the Aeon community, if such a thing exists, not to act as fodder for the greedy or whatever.

I'd also like to stress that, while I appreciate that imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, I have certain issues with people "ripping Aeon off". This doesn't mean ports; anyone is welcome to recreate Aeon for whatever application they choose. Hell, port it to a supermarket checkout for all I care. But I do take issue with hybrid skins and Aeon "mutations". So while it's not my place to stop people using, say, text-based horizontal menus, I'd rather not see entire designs pinched like the Home page layout or Showcase. All that does is cheapen both my work and yours.

I'll shut up now.

http://www.aeoncentral.com/downloads/misc/aeon_moviefanart1.jpg

http://www.aeoncentral.com/downloads/misc/aeon_moviefanart2.jpg

http://www.aeoncentral.com/downloads/misc/aeon_moviefanart3.jpg

Oh, and can someone literate or sane (ideally both) please put some decent plot synopses on the IMDb.

[xb00t]

This looks fantastic! Cant wait for the next update. :)

[Jezz_X]

....I'd also like to stress that, while I appreciate that imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, I have certain issues with people "ripping Aeon off". This doesn't mean ports; anyone is welcome to recreate Aeon for whatever application they choose. Hell, port it to a supermarket checkout for all I care. But I do take issue with hybrid skins and Aeon "mutations". So while it's not my place to stop people using, say, text-based horizontal menus, I'd rather not see entire designs pinched like the Home page layout or Showcase. All that does is cheapen both my work and yours.......

While I can appreciate what your trying to say here and agree with direct rippoffs you are hardly the first to come up with the ideas that "showcase view" has for example the whole sideways scrolling and zooming thing has been around in pm3 for ages long before AEON was ever made. And the having the current icon change its location and move to other places so more info can be shown has also been done before in both xTV and Vision before AEON was ever around.

I mearly say this as just because you have done these things and changed them a little (even if you thought you were the first) dosn't mean you hold exclusive rights to the concept because pretty much everything in AEON has been done to some extent in other projects even if they arn't XBMC related.

Asides from that little comment AEON looks nicer these days and is becoming more and more useable as time goes on I look forward to the day its finshed

[Hitcher]

The issues with default control selection while browsing in Showcase/Episode have essentially been fixed. Things are certainly one helluva lot better than they were. Thankfully, it didn't require anything as extreme as an invisible control - just a bit of rewiring behind the scenes.
That's really great news.

I'm away for the weekend and super-busy on Friday, so there'll be an Aeon update tomorrow night instead, you lucky buggers.
:grin:

The first involves reminding everyone that the TV show poster library on the website, which somehow hosts over 700 posters already, did not come cheap. It cost time (about 24 hours in less than a week) and money (about £50 for assets). So treat it with respect.
Would it help by making it a membership only thing?

[ewequeone]

Would it help by making it a membership only thing?

or a torrent on ******** or TPB?

[djh_]

While I can appreciate what your trying to say here...

I probably didn't make myself very clear there. I'm only really talking about the severest level of imitation, where you essentially duplicate a section of one skin within another one. So that's not just the mechanical side of icons sliding this way and that, but the precise aesthetic as well. It's the "signature" of a design that only really emerges at the highest level. In that sense, I don't regard xTV or any other current skin as being that similar.

I'm not trying to deprive anyone else of inspiration here; after all, were it not for Clearity, I'd have never embarked upon Aeon in the first place. And it's not like I can lay claim to Vista's glass effects. Like all things, it's built upon the examples of others - but only to a point.

Ultimately, this is about skins building their own identity without fear of it being diluted, and in many cases it's more a concern for other skins than mine. It's like the "Aeon" menu thing in Meedio's Vintage skin. I respect the fact that it bears the name and is an "honest steal", but I worry that Vintage has lost a degree of distinction by having it. If you asked me what the "look" of Vintage's homepage was now, I'd be less sure. No offence to the author, of course, who's clearly a very talented bloke.

Also, it's about maintaining the diversity of the XBMC landscape. Right now, we have xTV, PMIII, Vision, Vinci, Clearity, Focus, Aeon: all great, all unique. Perhaps I'm being paranoid, but I want to ensure that quality remains.

@Hitcher:
I don't think we need worry about memberships or anything. I explicitly wanted to avoid anything like fees or adverts so I'd rather that continued. So long as the site is used rather than abused, there's no problem. And I was being specific when I mentioned posters - I've no problem with backdrops being leeched as I'd imagine people want as many as they can have. Posters, on the other hand... where's the point in having all of those on your hard drive?

[Ayla]

--> djh

Looking forward to the new update :)

When you say released tomorrow night (I'm confused about the time zones I think :D ), how many hours until then, aprox.?

Thanks
Martin

[djh_]

I'd say about two hours from now.

[sandman4sure]

Great! Can't wait to use the new update!!

As for the movie fanart, you have to put the fanart jpg pics in the right place manually, right?

[djh_]

I'll put instructions in the readme. The thing to remember is that, for Linux at least, movie fanart only went into XBMC the other day. So unless you're running a freshly updated SVN build you might be wasting your time.

[sandman4sure]

I'll put instructions in the readme. The thing to remember is that, for Linux at least, movie fanart only went into XBMC the other day. So unless you're running a freshly updated SVN build you might be wasting your time.

Ok, thanks! I'll put a message on the OSXBMC forum

[Ayla]

-> djh

Is it not technically possible to have the "show movie info when hovering, in showcase view" feature when in File mode (not Library)?

Is it a limitation in XBMC, not AEON?

[neal73]

djh - a question about upgrading. When I do it, I create a new folder just incase I have to revert back to the old version. Problem with this is setting all the folders and wallpapers which can take a while and be a pain in the arse. I noticed you put in the readme to copy over the old version, I tried this but still needed to put all the details in again.

Am I being thick, or is there an easy way to copy all the folder destinations and wallpaper settings across?

thanks, and looking forward to this new version.

[Hitcher]

I don't know if anyone else will think this a good idea or not but I'll throw it out there anyway.

Now we've got movie fanart when hovering I think it might look better if there's single backdrop option just for Movies (I still want loads of backdrops when in the main menu) so it doesn't get too confusing when browsing.

[Hitcher]

djh - a question about upgrading. When I do it, I create a new folder just incase I have to revert back to the old version. Problem with this is setting all the folders and wallpapers which can take a while and be a pain in the arse. I noticed you put in the readme to copy over the old version, I tried this but still needed to put all the details in again.

Am I being thick, or is there an easy way to copy all the folder destinations and wallpaper settings across?

thanks, and looking forward to this new version.

As long as the new folder is named the same it should be OK - just rename the old one.

[Ayla]

Hitcher

How does the movie fanart thing work?

Does it mean that the background changes dependent on which movie you're hovering on?

And how do you set it up and use it?

Thx

[djh_]

@Ayla

Movie info doesn't essentially exist in File mode - it's only available in libraries. It's the nature of the beast: if you want information that isn't pulled from or stored in the files themselves, you're gonna need a database. So long as you keep backups and take the time to correct any incorrect lookups, library mode's really quite cool. And I'm going to some lengths now to make the info stuff optional, so you can mix and match the file and library experiences.

@neal73

Nothing's at a stage yet where I can really streamline the upgrading process. With so much changing so often, the only safe option is to clean out your GUI settings every time. Nothing else like database or thumbnail cache, mind, just the skin-specific settings. Sorry for the inconvenience but, y'know, them's the breaks.

@Hitcher

I'm not entirely sure what you mean by this single backdrop for movies thing. Are you saying that, rather than a single Movies backdrop option, you'd like one for when you're on the Home page and another for the media windows? If so, I appreciate the idea but think it's one option too many. If anything, I need to purge some of the existing options.

[Hitcher]

@Hitcher

I'm not entirely sure what you mean by this single backdrop for movies thing. Are you saying that, rather than a single Movies backdrop option, you'd like one for when you're on the Home page and another for the media windows? If so, I appreciate the idea but think it's one option too many. If anything, I need to purge some of the existing options.

Yeah that's what I meant. I just thought it might get confusing/messy having a random backdrop, then movie fanart, then random backdrop, then movie fansrt, etc.

[soder]

Im sitting here trying to sort out all backdrops from the 720p BMP to 1080p BMP to todays 1080 JPG versions...
Ive found that a couple of the 720p BMP's still missing from homepage today. Are you aware of those backdrops or do I have to keep these versions?

/Soder

[djh_]

New version is up. I haven't any time to test it, unfortunately, but there aren't that many changes, either. Here are a few:

- list view works in Clips
- movie fanart support for Showcase view (optional)
- more animation timing fixes, faster overall result
- light crest visual effects (optional)
- option to turn off info popup for library Poster view
- navigation issues within Showcase/Episode views fixed
- DVD no longer starts up when switching between file and library views

I think that's it.

www.aeoncentral.com

[Hitcher]

Thanks. Have a great weekend.

[harryzimm]

cheers. Loving this skin

[jeppster]

Thanks for giving us such an incredible skin. Amazing.

[Hitcher]

- light crest visual effects (optional)

When turned off the very start of the effect is permanently in view

- option to turn off info popup for library Poster view

Doesn't work?

- navigation issues within Showcase/Episode views fixed

I appreciate it now works but does the top bar have to be displayed?

[djh_]

- light crest visual effects (optional)

When turned off the very start of the effect is permanently in view

So it is. I'll patch that.


- option to turn off info popup for library Poster view

Doesn't work?

Works fine here.


- navigation issues within Showcase/Episode views fixed

I appreciate it now works but does the top bar have to be displayed?

Apparently so. I don't ask it to but it does. Still an improvement, yes?

[Hitcher]

Wow, I don't know what you did with the Showcase code but I've just put it through it's paces it on my PC and there wasn't a single crash. Impressive stuff.

[Hitcher]

Sorry, in my haste I didn't read 'Poster' and assumed it was for 'Showcase'.:rolleyes:

Yes, big improvement. I'll get off your back now.:;):

[djh_]

You can get on with downloading this instead. :nod:

http://www.aeoncentral.com/downloads/misc/Aeon_Crestfix.zip

[Hitcher]

Of course you know what I'm going to ask for next - can it be for both 'Poster' and 'Showcase'?

[djh_]

Yes it can. I tend to do these things in increments to gauge reponses etc.

[rudeboyx]

aeon 11b link down on website. any ideas

[Nopel]

Movie info doesn't essentially exist in File mode - it's only available in libraries. It's the nature of the beast: if you want information that isn't pulled from or stored in the files themselves, you're gonna need a database. So long as you keep backups and take the time to correct any incorrect lookups, library mode's really quite cool. And I'm going to some lengths now to make the info stuff optional, so you can mix and match the file and library experiences.


Thanks for giving file stuff as much attention as library stuff. I use the library for movies, and love the info and fanart it can provide, but I prefer file mode for tv shows. Wouldn't it be possible to use local fanart for tv shows in file mode? I've got a fanart.jpg (as well as a folder.jpg for the thumbnail) in each directory. Would it be a lot of work to enable this for file mode in Aeon?

Cheers!

[rudeboyx]

download links working again now. extreamly slow. guess people just cant get enough of the aeon action

This Skin Rocks

[djh_]

Wouldn't it be possible to use local fanart for tv shows in file mode?

I haven't tried it to see if it would work yet. If it does, though, it'll go in.

[Nopel]

I haven't tried it to see if it would work yet. If it does, though, it'll go in.

Woohoo! Something to look forward to. Take your time, just glad to know it's on its way.

Cheers!

[zachmo826]

Hey, I might just be late to this party, but where should I go to find movie fanart?

[Hitcher]

Hey, I might just be late to this party, but where should I go to find movie fanart?

http://www.aeoncentral.com/backdrops.php?cat=bg_movies

[zachmo826]

Is there any other place? I have alot of movies that are not on this site

[djh_]

movieposterdb.com

It'll cost you, though.

My spider-sense is tingling... Something tells me you won't be using a new enough version of XBMC... When did you last do an SVN update?

[neal73]

What are the light crest visual effects? I've got them turned on, but haven't noticed any difference with anything on my xbox.

[Hitcher]

It's a little light effect around the edge of the highlighted video.

[djh_]

What he said. It's nothing major.

[neal73]

Ah - by the description I was expecting something like Close Encounters of the 3rd kind......

Nice work, it's getting better and better each release. One thing that niggles me though - the volume control only occupies about 1/4 of the width of the screen.

[djh_]

So who's gonna host all these movie fanart pics then? I've already got over 100 that wouldn't suit the website, and which I can't host myself due to bandwidth. How about some kind soul setting up an FTP bucket or something?

[cellopoly]

Hey DJH as I mentioned before I would gladly setup an ftp account for you under my Hostmonster account. There shouldn't be any issues as its unlimited bandwidth

[Delver]

Great work djh, i'm in awe as usual!
Just one thing, my volume popup bar pops up about 1/3 of the way up the screen, not from the bottom like i think it should. I thought it might be my calibration, but that was fine. So i opened up the volume dialog xml file and changed the posx value, until it lined up with the bottom of the screen properly. Is this something that anyone else has had a problem with or am I just unlucky?

[Delver]

Hey DJH as I mentioned before I would gladly setup an ftp account for you under my Hostmonster account. There shouldn't be any issues as its unlimited bandwidth

You sir, are made of win.

[Delver]

[QUOTE=Delver;194849]...So i opened up the volume dialog xml file and changed the posx value...QUOTE]

Sorry, i meant the posy value!

[djh_]

The volume will probably be a value I overlooked while updating everything to 720. I'll take a look.

[neal73]

djh - is it possible to put a dark background behind the text in tv or movies when you press the info button? It just overlays whats already there with white text at the moment.

Also, when you press the "title" button and it brings up the side menu, again it's just white text overlaid so it's pretty unreadable.

And I don't know if this is possible but in the music section, when you first enter when in Library mode you only have the option of roller or wall views. Roller view is fine, but the actual roller is blank. Is it possible to have icons for genres, artists, albums etc just to make it look nicer?

[Bigfoot87]

I can't get the movie fanart to work... For the movie '300' I've placed '300-fanart.jpg' into my moviefolder and the fanart option is enabled. But still it won't show up. Could anybody tell me what I'm doing wrong? Thnx...

[Delver]

I can't get the movie fanart to work... For the movie '300' I've placed '300-fanart.jpg' into my moviefolder and the fanart option is enabled. But still it won't show up. Could anybody tell me what I'm doing wrong? Thnx...

I think it only works with the very latest xbmc SVN build, from the last couple of days. So anything older and it doesn't show up.

[djh_]

djh - is it possible to put a dark background behind the text in tv or movies when you press the info button? It just overlays whats already there with white text at the moment.

Also, when you press the "title" button and it brings up the side menu, again it's just white text overlaid so it's pretty unreadable.

If I haven't said a million times that I'm aware of these, it feels like I have. Of course it's possible to do it, and of course I'll get round to it. Just as I'll get round to profile support, the file manager, the file browser, context menus, the weather menus, the shutdown bar, String.xml support, the Music OSD, the...

Do you see what I'm getting at here?

[Bigfoot87]

I think it only works with the very latest xbmc SVN build, from the last couple of days. So anything older and it doesn't show up.
Allright, in that case I'll have to wait a few days.
Thanks for your quick reply.

[Delver]

...Do you see what I'm getting at here?

GAWD!! You're such a slacker!! :grin:
Just kidding, there's not many that work as hard as you to please everyone!

Allright, in that case I'll have to wait a few days.
Thanks for your quick reply.

Yeah me too, i get the t3ch build, i'm too lazy to build it myself!

[neal73]

If I haven't said a million times that I'm aware of these, it feels like I have. Of course it's possible to do it, and of course I'll get round to it. Just as I'll get round to profile support, the file manager, the file browser, context menus, the weather menus, the shutdown bar, String.xml support, the Music OSD, the...

Do you see what I'm getting at here?



Didn't mean to get on your back about it, I just wondered if it was possible or if had been left like that for a reason, such as you trying to live a life as well as developing this skin, you layabout ;)

[djh_]

Well, it's not an easy fix, let's put it that way. Showcase requires entirely new context menus and info panels, which is why I haven't plonked a big black box or something behind the current ones.

I've noticed, incidentally, that it's flippin' hard to get backdrops looking right with that Showcase view. At first I just assumed it was flat black backdrops that looked rubbish, but not all of them do. Obviously, that's a harsh gradient from the backdrop to the info, so the darker the top bit is, the nastier the bit in the middle. There isn't much getting round it: a gentler gradient either washes out the backdrop or messes up the info. The solution is simply to ensure only suitable backdrops are used, which for movies set in space is easier said than done.

The objects in Showcase view could also do with being aligned a little better.

Anyway, here are some of this evening's less disastrous attempts.

http://www.aeoncentral.com/downloads/misc/aeon_moviefanart7.jpg

http://www.aeoncentral.com/downloads/misc/aeon_moviefanart8.jpg

http://www.aeoncentral.com/downloads/misc/aeon_moviefanart10.jpg

http://www.aeoncentral.com/downloads/misc/aeon_moviefanart13.jpg

[Archigos]

Duncan, add me to the list as willing to host the movie fanart and mirror whatever other backgrounds, posters, site, etc. you feel like having there, I already set up a sub-domain and ftp account for you, so you can PM me if interested... or if you prefer I can remove them if your not interested.

Later, Archigos

[djh_]

Cheers for the FTP offers. I'll be in touch.

This one aint bad, either.

http://www.aeoncentral.com/downloads/misc/aeon_moviefanart14.jpg

[dteirney]

I don't know if anyone else will think this a good idea or not but I'll throw it out there anyway.

Now we've got movie fanart when hovering I think it might look better if there's single backdrop option just for Movies (I still want loads of backdrops when in the main menu) so it doesn't get too confusing when browsing.

This is part of the reason I created the single 720p abstract photorealistic photeon backdrops (http://www.teirney.net/blog/2008/05/21/photeon-backdrops-for-xbmc-aeon-skin-released/) for AEON as I had a hunch that djh would be putting in awesome support for fanart at a later point. Movies backdrop shown below.

http://www.teirney.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/movies.jpg

I'm perfectly happy having a single less colourful (but still great looking) backdrop for the menus and then having the fanart taking its place when looking at movie info or episodes for a particular TV show.

I'll be looking at putting together pictures for the other menu items like Clips and Games that I haven't done when I get back from holiday. Might look for a better TV Shows one as well.

[joebrady]

djh, you should just put your "to do" list in your sig. so you don't have to repeat yourself.

[Hitcher]

djh, you should just put your "to do" list in your sig. so you don't have to repeat yourself.

I've a feeling he'll still have too.

[Clumsy]

There is a small usability problem at the moment. If you press the info button on a movie in library mode, and then after that press the backm button to return to the list, the focus is now not on the previously selected item but jamps back to the start of the list. If you have about 500 movies like I do this gets a bit cumbersome fast, because everytime you just wanted to use the context menu you will have to scroll to the same position again - in poster view this can take ages.

All in all, a really great skin though - even if it doesn't work 100% on my projector because some of the fonts are so small that they get very hard to read even on such a big screen. because of projector resolution limits :) Maybe that is something where I can chime in with a mod when everything is done someday.

[smcnally75]

There is a small usability problem at the moment. If you press the info button on a movie in library mode, and then after that press the backm button to return to the list, the focus is now not on the previously selected item but jamps back to the start of the list.
Are you running Aeon 11b? Mine did this with v10 but not with v11b.

One issue I have noticed with the last few releases though, djh, is that when I go into TV Shows and drill into the episodes level and then try to back it gets to the season level fine. But when I press back again to get to the list of the TV Shows it just goes to a blank list. The only way I can get my list again is to back totally out to the main screen and reselect TV shows. Has anyone else been having this issue?

[xb2iris]

DJH, movie fanart is amazing. Just tried it and it works A-OK! Thanks so much.

One problem though. I have my Movie collection catalogued onto DVD, which means movie fanart ain't going to work because I can't add files to the DVD's. Any way of specifying a location on the local HDD to store the FANART???? At least maybe adding it at a later stage, because this Stunning option is useless to people that store games rather than movies on their XBOX!!!

Anyways, love the way AEON is coming on!

[djh_]

Any way of specifying a location on the local HDD to store the FANART????

That's a question for Team XBMC, I think.

[Clumsy]

@smcnally75: yep, happens here with the newest 11b version, on both xbox and windows.

Steps to reproduce here:

Enter movies or tv shows in library mode, navigate to an episode or a movie title - press info and then press back/escape. The cursor now jumps to the ".." list item.

[djh_]

I suspect you're right here, though I always suspected any "list jumping" problems were just XBMC features. It's good to know they're not 'cause it means I can track them down.

I'll look into it when I get the chance.

[neal73]

DJH, movie fanart is amazing. Just tried it and it works A-OK! Thanks so much.

One problem though. I have my Movie collection catalogued onto DVD, which means movie fanart ain't going to work because I can't add files to the DVD's. Any way of specifying a location on the local HDD to store the FANART???? At least maybe adding it at a later stage, because this Stunning option is useless to people that store games rather than movies on their XBOX!!!

Anyways, love the way AEON is coming on!

Fanart for games is a fantastic idea - is that possible for a feature request?

[Rand Al Thor]

Fanart for games is a fantastic idea - is that possible for a feature request?

That is a request for the developers. Not for DJH. I don't see any reason why it wouldn't be possible, you would just have to convince one of the devs that it is worth their time and energy.

[sickboy719]

Something that I noticed is the log in page is squished into the top left-had corner on my xbox at 720p.

Not a big deal, don't know how many people that actually effects. I didn't have that problem with alpha 9, only after 10. using 11b right now.

[Razor_109]

Hello,

Is it just me or do more people have this problem running Aeon?
Movie/Tvshow Information is just unreadable.. there is no 'background' set for the popup.

http://timberghmans.googlepages.com/screenshot000.JPG

[joebrady]

djh - is it possible to put a dark background behind the text in tv or movies when you press the info button? It just overlays whats already there with white text at the moment.

Also, when you press the "title" button and it brings up the side menu, again it's just white text overlaid so it's pretty unreadable.

And I don't know if this is possible but in the music section, when you first enter when in Library mode you only have the option of roller or wall views. Roller view is fine, but the actual roller is blank. Is it possible to have icons for genres, artists, albums etc just to make it look nicer?

If I haven't said a million times that I'm aware of these, it feels like I have. Of course it's possible to do it, and of course I'll get round to it. Just as I'll get round to profile support, the file manager, the file browser, context menus, the weather menus, the shutdown bar, String.xml support, the Music OSD, the...

Do you see what I'm getting at here?

i think this was a whole 2 pages back....

[Hitcher]

Something that I noticed is the log in page is squished into the top left-had corner on my xbox at 720p.

Not a big deal, don't know how many people that actually effects. I didn't have that problem with alpha 9, only after 10. using 11b right now.

Is it just me or do more people have this problem running Aeon?
Movie/Tvshow Information is just unreadable.. there is no 'background' set for the popup.

It's a beta.

Here are some known issues with this build:

- Several animation/timing glitches in Showcase and Episode views
- Context menus clash with Showcase and Episode views
- Showcase has yet to be extended to non-library windows
- File Manager is unusable
- Music visualisation album art overlay is messed up
- Music OSD is a bit messed up
- Music Visualisation settings are unusable
- Wide icons have been disabled pending a redesign
- Plenty of minor glitches scattered here and there
- The GPU Friendly mode may cause a seam to appear in
the media panes when running at non-720p resolutions

[sickboy719]

Just pointing it out. I know it's a beta, just hadn't seen that mentioned.

Actually, it's an alpha, but that's just splitting hairs.

I'm not going to complain the the garnish on my free fillet mignon is too small.

[blubyu]

djh_ Any chance you might give some thought to these two requests?

1.) Create a change.log for your releases. This can be bundled with each release and it can also be kept on your website. This will cut down on some (not all) of the repeat posts of people that have problems that are already known.

2.) Create a new thread (preferably for each release). This thread is too long (over 2200 posts) and I am guessing that fewer and fewer people go back very many pages looking for answers.

[smcnally75]

One issue I have noticed with the last few releases though, djh, is that when I go into TV Shows and drill into the episodes level and then try to back it gets to the season level fine. But when I press back again to get to the list of the TV Shows it just goes to a blank list. The only way I can get my list again is to back totally out to the main screen and reselect TV shows. Has anyone else been having this issue?

Just as an FYI...I totally screwwed up my whole video library by being impatient. After I rebuilt it all I don't have this issue anymore. Strange :oo:

[zeuss-axis]

So I'm working on an Adult section, since an HTPC seems a much better place to view that sortof thing than on a computer screen, and it seems that Adult movies are just 'movies'. If I add them to the library, they're in my 'normal' movie library as well;which kind of defeats the purpose of the separate view.

I'm thinking this is an XMBC issue, not an Aeon problem, butI'm curious if anyone has insight? I'd love to be able to scrape my adult library without mixing with the < "X" library...

[djh_]

Adult is just an extension of XBMC's video window, like all of Aeon's "extra" options. But the shortcut exclusively links to a File window rather than a Library one (I think), so you shouldn't have any trouble separating the files. Just set up an adult source and remember not to add the contents to your library.

[joncgde2]

Well regarding that Adult source I'm fairly certain that this can only be viewed in Files mode. I enquired in the XBMC forum a while ago regarding multiple libraries (for me I wanted English and Foreign movies in separate libraries) and was told multiple libraries was not something they were particularly interested in implementing, either not or in the near future.

And that's fair enough too I might add - as much as I would like to see it, I don't think many other people would find it of any use. So as for your Adult files, or anything else, it seems like these can only be in File mode. ATM, for video files, it seems only one movie library and one TV show library is supported, no others.

[ewequeone]

djh, with the music info whilst in a full screen visualisation, is there any way for the album art and title/artist/album/year/track/time to continue to swap between each other, say every 10 to 20 secdonds (or even make it user-definable?)

cheers,

jason.

[zeuss-axis]

Just set up an adult source and remember not to add the contents to your library.

Now that I think about it, manually setting posters covers everything I'd want out of a library function anyway...who wants to read the 'plot' for an adult film??

Thanks!