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Hi Guys, I just finished reading about half of this huge tread. I don´t seem to get answers to my questions though. First of all I run the mediacenter on my mac and not a Xbox. Don´t know if that matter to the subject.
Heres the thing. I don´t get any thumbnails or information on Tv-shows, movies or music. As I have understand this is supposed to generate automatically? Is there maybe a router issue where some ports need do be opened or something else that I have missed?
It also seems to be a graphic glitch when I select movies for exampel I have a black half circle at the left of the screen and as the font is also black it makes it impossible to read.
I've just come across something missing from this skin which is quite important to me - when you scan the music library, there's no indication that it's doing anything, let alone how far along scanning it is.
I'm back on this now, going all-out for a release during the next few days. And you know what kind of hours I observe when I say "all-out". :oo:
Great to hear that djh - thanks for the work you've put in so far, this is by far the best skin XBMC has ever had. Just a few minor adjustments and it'll be perfect.
pantherman007
2008-05-20, 23:51
I'm back on this now, going all-out for a release during the next few days. And you know what kind of hours I observe when I say "all-out". :oo:
Wahoo! My blood pressure just went up a few points!
Fanart is in. Here's a question, though: has anyone managed to get fullscreen fanart to crossfade with other backgrounds?
UND3R ACHI3V3R
2008-05-21, 09:31
Can you add this to the SVN?
If you don't have access to a Mac and want me to test the new version with OSXMBC give me a shout...
Can't wait for the new version, its been sooo long since feb...
Can you add this to the SVN?
It had been offered many times I think he just dosn't want too. plus I don't all the images in it are royalty free so may have copyright issues to put in the sourceforge svn
UND3R ACHI3V3R
2008-05-21, 11:29
It had been offered many times I think he just dosn't want too. plus I don't all the images in it are royalty free so may have copyright issues to put in the sourceforge svn
Good point. Maybe something could be changed to allow blank or non-CR images to the SVN with folders to add your own? I'm just throwning out ideas. i enjoy this skin, but dislike having to download from aeonismine.com as the download time is so long.
dteirney
2008-05-21, 11:51
The photorealistic backdrop images I created specifically for the Aeon skin have now been released.
For screenshots and download information go to http://www.teirney.net/blog/2008/05/21/photeon-backdrops-for-xbmc-aeon-skin-released/
i enjoy this skin, but dislike having to download from aeonismine.com as the download time is so long.
I've made a couple of torrents now for the complete backpacks (720p and 1080p).
http:// w w w . m i n i n o v a . o r g /search/backpack/6
The photorealistic backdrop images I created specifically for the Aeon skin have now been released.
For screenshots and download information go to http://www.teirney.net/blog/2008/05/21/photeon-backdrops-for-xbmc-aeon-skin-released/
Nice.
That's 'Settings' one is just what I was looking for to use with AEON on my HTPC.
Maggelmans
2008-05-21, 18:21
Is there a way to scroll to my movies faster? I have al lot of movies stored on my HD, so it is quite annoying that there is no scrollbar. I have been using the Aeon skin for quite some time now, but due to the lack of a scrollbar I recently changed back to the xTV skin, despite the Aeon skin being way better.
Remind me after this next release and I'll take a look at it. Honestly, I have no experience at all with scrollbars in XBMC - are they designed for mouse control or joypad?
Gamester17
2008-05-21, 18:45
I have no experience at all with scrollbars in XBMC - are they designed for mouse control or joypad?The scrollbar is design to be used the IR remote-control or the mouse, (the gamepad does not need a scrollbar as you can you the analog trigger buttons on a gamepad).
Think of a IR reciever for the Xbox for the remote-control as a digital input device, it can only recieve a ON or OFF command (and no combinations).
Without a scrollbar you can not scroll fast though very long lists in XBMC if you are using a remote-control.
Maggelmans
2008-05-21, 19:25
The scrollbar is design to be used the IR remote-control or the mouse, (the gamepad does not need a scrollbar as you can you the analog trigger buttons on a gamepad).
Think of a IR reciever for the Xbox for the remote-control as a digital input device, it can only recieve a ON or OFF command (and no combinations).
Without a scrollbar you can not scroll fast though very long lists in XBMC if you are using a remote-control.
I never knew that you could fast-scroll through a list with the gamepad, because I don't play games on my xbox anymore. That indirectly solved the problem for me. I edited the keymap.xml and assigned the fastscroll-option from the gamepad to my IR-remote. Now I can easily scroll through my movie-list. I should have thought of that before ???
Good point. Maybe something could be changed to allow blank or non-CR images to the SVN with folders to add your own? I'm just throwning out ideas. i enjoy this skin, but dislike having to download from aeonismine.com as the download time is so long.
Royalties are one of several factors in this perennial issue of uploading to SVN. Just know that it will happen but don't anticipate it happening - there's no timeline in place.
I would also love a scroll option, or even a 'next page' type button. I love the look of the skin, however, with 300+ movies it isn't too functional.
Love it, keep up the great work.
Rand Al Thor
2008-05-21, 22:10
page down works great on the keyboard in linux ;) Keep up the great work djh, really looking forward to the next release. Cheers.
New stuff...
http://www.aeonismine.com/screens/aeon_movieinfo.jpg
http://www.aeonismine.com/screens/aeon_playlistedit.jpg
Don't worry, the old menu position's still there as well.
http://www.aeonismine.com/screens/aeon_lowermenu.jpg
http://www.aeonismine.com/screens/aeon_newlibrary.jpg
http://www.aeonismine.com/screens/aeon_newsettings.jpg
absolutely amazing.. i can't wait for the next release.. will this version have more support for music videos? I tend to use xbmc a lot for playing music videos..
i've been using the xbox to run xbmc for quite some time but i find it's finally hitting the wall.. i would like to stream x264 content from my desktop to xbmc so i don't know if osx or linux version would be better.. does anyone know off hand what network would be required to stream that heavy of a stream? gigabit wired or 802.11n?
ezechiel1917
2008-05-22, 08:49
djh: awesome, so will there be an imdb rating included in "quick" descriptions now? that was the only thing I was missing in AEON, pressing info was way too slow if you wanted to move and check that for more movies :cool:
dteirney
2008-05-22, 11:23
I've been using the Aeon skin with the aeonmod and have quite a lot of recorded TV. Navigating down the list can be quite slow, as can navigating the music collection.
In xTV you can turn on scroll bars. You use the right arrow to get focus onto the scroll bar and then the up or down arrows move up or down a page. You have to then use the left arrow to bring focus back to the list items.
Some other interfaces I've seen use separate buttons to skip down or up a page at a time. Sounds like Pg Up and Pg Dn achieve this with a keyboard.
I think I'd prefer the separate buttons approach rather than a scroll bar to move up or down a page. Changing focus between the list and the scroll bar is frustrating. A scroll bar does give the benefit of knowing how far through the list you are though.
In the interim, is there anyway the Reverse or "Skip -" (|<) and Forward or "Skip +" (>|) buttons on the XBox Remote Control can be configured to skip down or up a page at a time in the lists?
@djh
New stuff looks great. Can't wait to try it out when your finished. Hopefully Rand Al Thor will be able to patch the aeonmod stuff for integrating with the myth:// protocol.
jmarshall
2008-05-22, 11:42
The xbox remote has page up and down buttons assigned to it by default.
Wow, when you said you were going "all-out" you weren't kidding.
And thank you so much for including this view type.
http://www.aeonismine.com/screens/aeon_lowermenu.jpg
Maggelmans
2008-05-22, 12:54
[QUOTE=dteirney;186681]
In the interim, is there anyway the Reverse or "Skip -" (|<) and Forward or "Skip +" (>|) buttons on the XBox Remote Control can be configured to skip down or up a page at a time in the lists?
QUOTE]
You can edit the keymap.xml in your Userdata Folder. Here you can assign the 'pageup' and 'pagedown' command to the IR remote. "Skip -" and "Skip+" can be used for this, as I did this for myself.
bionic1234
2008-05-22, 14:41
Any tip on what the cause of this problem could be? Happens on my Mac Mini with GMA950 running OSX XBMC. No problem on my iMac so I'm not really sure what is causing the problem.
http://img362.imageshack.us/img362/6664/bild2hg2.png
Hey djh, looks absolutely awesome - drooling in anticipation!!!
just quick question, i think i remember you mentioning that you might see what you can do about this issue (something about video card limitations and AEON skin)
This skin is amazing. I can't wait to test a new version!
waring192
2008-05-22, 16:29
same here, any work ETA?
KevinSartori
2008-05-22, 17:23
Hey! I know that this isn't necessarily the best place to post this, but it was brought up a few posts back, so I thought I'd give it a shot.
I'd like to add the ability to to "Page Up" and "Page Down" to my universal remote. I have a Monster MCC AV100. I have Page Up and Page Down buttons on the remote itself. Going through the Monster software, I discovered two Xbox remote commands that I believe aren't used otherwise: "Channel Up" and "Channel Down". I assigned these commands to the two buttons and updated.
I added to AdvancedSettings.xml:
<displayremotecodes>true</displayremotecodes>
I learned that the RCA 5 OBC for "Channel Up" and "Channel Down" are 32 and 34.
Next, I added this information to Keymap.xml. I'll show you the beginning of my Keymap.xml, skipping the help stuff at the beginning and clipping it off just after the <remote> section:
<keymap>
<global>
<universalremote>
<obc32>PageUp</obc32>
<obc34>PageDown</obc34>
</universalremote>
<remote>
<three>VolumeUp</three>
I updated and restarted and went to My Music (Files mode) and tried to Page Up and Page Down through my folders. Didn't work.
Any ideas on what I'm doing wrong?
KevinSartori
2008-05-22, 18:54
Aeon is my favorite skin for XBMC by far, but I do have one request for djh. With xTV, I had the Record button set up in Keymap.xml for the action XBMC.ActivateWindow(ShutdownMenu), which is also set by default to the Right Thumb Button on the gamepad. The XBMC remote doesn't have a "Power" button, so it was nice because I could hit the record button and the Shutdown Menu would pop up. It's a convenient way to quickly access power off/restart/dashboard. Currently, you have XBMC.ActivateWindow(ShutdownMenu) bring up an information screen. That's cool, but it would be nice if the XBMC.ActivateWindow(ShutdownMenu) action quickly brought you to (or brought up) that power off/restart/dashboard blade.
Thanks for making such a great skin and I'm sure I'm not alone in eagerly awaiting an update!
KevinSartori
2008-05-22, 19:20
Aw, nuts. Forget my earlier question of programming my remote for Page Up and Page Down. Playing with the buttons, I learned that the RCA 5 OBC for "Channel Up" and "Channel Down" (32 and 34) are duplicates for "SkipNext" and "SkipPrevious". Instead, I found two actions that don't appear to be used otherwise: Eject (OBC80) and HDMI (OBC05). I've changed my Keymap.xml:
<keymap>
<global>
<universalremote>
<obc80>PageUp</obc80>
<obc05>PageDown</obc05>
</universalremote>
<remote>
<three>VolumeUp</three>
Page Up and Page Down work perfectly now! Sorry about that folks...
Currently, you have XBMC.ActivateWindow(ShutdownMenu) bring up an information screen. That's cool, but it would be nice if the XBMC.ActivateWindow(ShutdownMenu) action quickly brought you to (or brought up) that power off/restart/dashboard blade.
Fear not - one of tonight's missions is to bin that information screen and reinstate the shutdown menu. At some point, I'll also address the unholy trinity of file browser, on-screen keyboard and Wall view context menus. Gah.
Sorry to bump my own thread, but I had more emails re: donations today and would like to reiterate something. Without embarking on some winding altruistic diatribe, I don't want any money for AEON. Instead, go to the website below, read what it has to say and respond, whether by sending an email or putting your money towards something that really matters. Ta.
http://www.iucnredlist.org/
http://www.aeonismine.com/screens/aeon_viewtypes.jpg
Question: would you prefer the option to turn the List views on and off as well? My first instinct was to leave them out as they're good for debugging stuff - and it avoids the scenario where you accidentally turn all the views off.
Kprojekt
2008-05-22, 23:36
djh_ I really appreciate your cause for incentive. Big plus in my books.
Now back to the Aeon skin.
I've been watching development on this skin for some time now and I must admit it is the most useful one available. I'm highly anticipating the new release. Also I have some minor suggestions.
Would it be possible to implement 3D Coverflow alongside the Poster View to the library. I know it's just fluff but it would work great in the library view for movies.
Also I've noticed some skins contain a finished by feature. Essentially giving the viewer the exact hour based on the clock when the movie/show will finish.
It's all fluff but other than that I hope the bookmark feature is tightened up along with the video/audio options during playback.
Cheers,
Keep up the good work sir.:laugh:
Kprojekt
2008-05-22, 23:38
Question: would you prefer the option to turn the List views on and off as well? My first instinct was to leave them out as they're good for debugging stuff - and it avoids the scenario where you accidentally turn all the views off.
I'd love to have that option personally.
In most cases my non-techsavy girlfriend will occupy my xbox and accidentally muck up options. So minimalist is the way to go!
I'd love to have that option personally.
In most cases my non-techsavy girlfriend will occupy my xbox and accidentally muck up options. So minimalist is the way to go!
Same here.
As I said the the other thread I'd like to see all the options removed so I can set it up and not worry about my kids messing anything when watching stuff but barring that enabling just one view type would be great.
KevinSartori
2008-05-23, 01:34
Quick question, djh. I organize my music on the folder level: "Artist - Album (Year)", so I like to keep My Music in Files mode. I've never understood why you have to go over to Library mode to enable the full random play Party mode. Is there any reason why that option can't be there in Files mode? Am I in the minority in keeping My Music in Files mode?
Does it work in Party mode?
Kprojekt
2008-05-23, 04:26
I've been wondering how can you modify the textures ? I downloaded the PSD's and was thinking of adding web2.0 style to some of the buttons/backgrounds but how do you compile it back into the skin?
Work still to be done on this...
http://www.aeonismine.com/screens/aeon_keyboard.jpg
KevinSartori
2008-05-23, 06:55
Oh, sure, it works fine! But for me it works fine because I've always taken the time to keep my music Library database up to date by scanning new folders I move over to the Xbox with the "Scan Item to Library" option. Library mode is kind of cool, but I still prefer to browse my music collection in Files mode because I can see all of those folder.jpg album covers. I do think that having that Party mode option there would be convenient, but I understand that it might cause confusion for people who are always in Files mode and don't use the Library mode at all or scan anything to the Library. My assumption is that if there is no Library database, nothing would happen when they selected Party mode. I'm not positive about this though because I've never tried it. I'm pretty sure that Party mode relies on the Library database to build the playlist to play all the music randomly.
As far as I'm concerned a simple shuffle mode that played all of the music randomly without the need for a Library database at all would be grand, but I'm sure that that's outside the scope of what you do ;)
So if you nix the idea, you won't hurt my feelings. I'm just so happy with all of the work you've put in with Aeon! PMIII and xTV are cool and all, but Aeon makes my Xbox feel like a new machine!
jmarshall
2008-05-23, 07:00
Actually, a skinner probably has the ability now to add a button "Play all randomly" from their skin, but it's not entirely without problems, mainly that they'd have to toggle on the global random switch (i.e. anything else played in the future would be random)
Something like:
<onclick>PlayerControls.Random(On)</onclick>
<onclick>PlayMedia($INFO[Container.FolderPath])</onclick>
Would do the trick - note the problem with the random though.
Cheers
Jonathan
bionic1234
2008-05-23, 07:09
Yes, that's fixed.
thank you - saves me buying a new video card (for now)
This skin ROCKS! and the features & ideas just keep comin'
Quick question, djh. I organize my music on the folder level: "Artist - Album (Year)", so I like to keep My Music in Files mode. I've never understood why you have to go over to Library mode to enable the full random play Party mode. Is there any reason why that option can't be there in Files mode? Am I in the minority in keeping My Music in Files mode?
Party mode uses the database and will only work if the music is scanned into the database. In library mode all is database based. I think it could be confusing to have that option in file mode, in cases where people haven't scanned their music into the DB.
Maybe a file-based party mode could be a consideration. I love the shuffle! Even though this might be a bit beyond skinning.
[QUOTE=djh_;186884]Work still to be done on this...
I know you said there is still work to be done, but just thought I am sure you don't forget the arrow buttons?? :grin:
This is looking fantastic I am already getting excited about this skin again. Like a young boy waiting for xmas!
dteirney
2008-05-23, 12:14
You can edit the keymap.xml in your Userdata Folder. Here you can assign the 'pageup' and 'pagedown' command to the IR remote. "Skip -" and "Skip+" can be used for this, as I did this for myself.
Thanks! More detailed instructions for how to add page up and page down functions to the XBox remote for the less tech savvy at http://www.teirney.net/blog/2008/05/23/how-to-add-page-up-and-page-down-functions-to-the-xbox-remote-for-xbmc/
Oh, sure, it works fine!
Sorry, I meant does it work in File mode?
djh - would it be possible to add in the aeon settings screen the option to have the main scroll bar on the top, middle or bottom of the screen? Or maybe a user defined transparency level?
djh - would it be possible to add in the aeon settings screen the option to have the main scroll bar on the top, middle or bottom of the screen? Or maybe a user defined transparency level?
He's already adding the option to move it to the bottom.
Hello,
when will arive a new version of the best skin in da world?
And djh do you have a mac? on XBMC for Mac it has a few issues i cant fix.
thx
KevinSartori
2008-05-23, 18:53
Sorry, I meant does it work in File mode?
I'm sorry, I should have been more clear. It works, but only when I switch to Library mode, choose Party mode and then switch back to Files mode.
Party mode uses the database and will only work if the music is scanned into the database. In library mode all is database based. I think it could be confusing to have that option in file mode, in cases where people haven't scanned their music into the DB.
Maybe a file-based party mode could be a consideration. I love the shuffle! Even though this might be a bit beyond skinning.
That's what I was trying to say in my follow-up post. It probably does make sense to leave things as they are or it may cause problems (and bug reports!) for Files mode-only folks who've never created a Library database trying to use the "new" Party mode.
Request withdrawn! :grin:
Kprojekt
2008-05-24, 00:08
So the screenshots on the first page of this thread have an intuitive bookmark screen but the download from the website has an outdated version. Is this just a tease from the new release or am I downloading the wrong version?
This skin looks dam fine.... but hopefully I wont get flamed for this question... is there a central repository of the skin/add-ons and backdrops etc?
So the screenshots on the first page of this thread have an intuitive bookmark screen but the download from the website has an outdated version. Is this just a tease from the new release or am I downloading the wrong version?
It's not public yet.
http://www.aeonismine.com/screens/aeon_keyboardfinal.jpg
This skin looks dam fine.... but hopefully I wont get flamed for this question... is there a central repository of the skin/add-ons and backdrops etc?
Either http://www.aeonismine.com/backdropsmovies1080.html or http:// w w w . m i n i n o v a . o r g /search/backpack/6
Thanks Hitcher! didnt even think ********! :)
djh,
When's the next skin update? I've been gone for a month, sorry if this was posted already.
thx
hey djh,
Great work on the skin, really appreciated.
I really love this skin and the ideas and functionality behind it, unfortunately it seems i am one of the few people using this skin on the original XBox, and with the memory limitation issues it experiences it's really not practical using it as the primary skin. Is there a plan to bring out platform specific versions of this beautiful skin, so us poor xbox users can enjoy your brilliant work??
cassius .. i use it on an xbox everyday and have no major issues .. don't use the 1080 backdrops , use all 720 .. also use XBMC in 720 ..
Now we have the boolean condition for which operating system you're using, I have been thinking about the whole cross-platform optimisation thing. The only real solution you could bring to Xbox would be to include lower-res textures and optionally use them - which would considerably bloat the skin and mean lots of work. That said, the new 1080p textures might well kill the Xbox anyway, in which case I'll have little choice.
sickboy719
2008-05-24, 21:04
hey djh,
Great work on the skin, really appreciated.
I really love this skin and the ideas and functionality behind it, unfortunately it seems i am one of the few people using this skin on the original XBox, and with the memory limitation issues it experiences it's really not practical using it as the primary skin. Is there a plan to bring out platform specific versions of this beautiful skin, so us poor xbox users can enjoy your brilliant work??
I use it as my primary skin.
I had to set the resolution at 720p, and usu 720p backgrounds. It works nearly flawlessly.
Same here - I use my softmodded xbox almost daily and this is the only skin I use now. It's not quite perfect but it's damned close. As everyone says DON'T use wallpaper at 1080 - reduce to 720 at max and it'll run pretty well.
IllumiNaughty
2008-05-25, 02:56
I am not familiar AT ALL with this skin. But, from reading the last few posts it seems like there is one possible solution for xbox users. Couldn't there be a special xpr for this skin, one that would contain textures that are less memory intensive thus suitable for the xbox.
I've used the skin quite a while. But there is a noticeable performance impact compared to PMIII. I tink this is because of the large files that are used for backgrounds. I assume these are compressed as much as possible?
smcnally75
2008-05-25, 20:18
I don't see the point ig going with 1080p for menu backdrops and menu items. The visual difference is barely noticeable and the amount of memory used up for it is too great and just not worth sacrificing for such a small visual difference. For those of you running this on an xbox like me...I actually opened up all the backdrops I want to use and converted them from bitmaps to jpegs. It lowered the file size from around 2.6MB to an average of about 600KB. I have a 42" 1080p LCD display (running 720p on the xbox) and the difference in the images isn't even noticeable. This is a great theme, djh, but I think you'll be making a big mistake by building everything for 1080p. The only people that can even enjoy 1080p are the small group using the osx port.
Kprojekt
2008-05-25, 20:45
I don't see the point ig going with 1080p for menu backdrops and menu items. The visual difference is barely noticeable and the amount of memory used up for it is too great and just not worth sacrificing for such a small visual difference. For those of you running this on an xbox like me...I actually opened up all the backdrops I want to use and converted them from bitmaps to jpegs. It lowered the file size from around 2.6MB to an average of about 600KB. I have a 42" 1080p LCD display (running 720p on the xbox) and the difference in the images isn't even noticeable. This is a great theme, djh, but I think you'll be making a big mistake by building everything for 1080p. The only people that can even enjoy 1080p are the small group using the osx port.
Agreed.
Whats the process in downscaling the textures, can it be outsourced to someone?
It's subjective, though. I run at 1080i resolution on Linux and do notice the difference between the old and new textures; same for the backdrops. That said, I fully accept the concerns of Xbox users and recognise the need to support it, so I will downscale the textures before release. There'll be two downloads: one for native 1080p and under (AEON HD), the other for native 720p (AEON Legacy). As for the backdrops, you'll still have to resize those, but it's not exactly rocket science using Irfanview's batch command.
And this sig is too big, isn't it?
ShortySco
2008-05-25, 21:08
I don't see the point ig going with 1080p for menu backdrops and menu items. The visual difference is barely noticeable and the amount of memory used up for it is too great and just not worth sacrificing for such a small visual difference. For those of you running this on an xbox like me...I actually opened up all the backdrops I want to use and converted them from bitmaps to jpegs. It lowered the file size from around 2.6MB to an average of about 600KB. I have a 42" 1080p LCD display (running 720p on the xbox) and the difference in the images isn't even noticeable. This is a great theme, djh, but I think you'll be making a big mistake by building everything for 1080p. The only people that can even enjoy 1080p are the small group using the osx port.
Correct me if i'm wrong....
But converting to jpeg means more work for the xbox... because behind the scenes it'll just have to convert/uncompress the jpeg file for display (Back to a bmp more or less)... wouldn't it be better for your purposes/reason to convert the pics to a lower resolution bmp file... i've read it's quicker to load a bmp than an equivelant jpeg for the reason i just stated...
Shorty
Correct me if i'm wrong....
But converting to jpeg means more work for the xbox... because behind the scenes it'll just have to convert/uncompress the jpeg file for display (Back to a bmp more or less)... wouldn't it be better for your purposes/reason to convert the pics to a lower resolution bmp file... i've read it's quicker to load a bmp than an equivelant jpeg for the reason i just stated...
Shorty
I'm pretty sure you're right and that's the reason djh uses bmp.
As said many times before now if you're having memory troubles with your Xbox just downsize the backdrops.
And this sig is too big, isn't it?
Probably.;)
Note: The maximum size of your custom image is 500 by 100 pixels or 19.5 KB (whichever is smaller).
smcnally75
2008-05-25, 22:06
Correct me if i'm wrong....
But converting to jpeg means more work for the xbox... because behind the scenes it'll just have to convert/uncompress the jpeg file for display (Back to a bmp more or less)... wouldn't it be better for your purposes/reason to convert the pics to a lower resolution bmp file... i've read it's quicker to load a bmp than an equivelant jpeg for the reason i just stated...
Shorty
You could be correct. I only went to JPG because I wasn't happy with the lower res BMP files. I will say this though...When using the standard 720p BMP files I noticed that if I had music playing the background images would not load at times. Instead, the visualization would be in it's place. It has stopped acting that way since switching to the JPG files.
smcnally75
2008-05-25, 22:08
It's subjective, though. I run at 1080i resolution on Linux and do notice the difference between the old and new textures; same for the backdrops. That said, I fully accept the concerns of Xbox users and recognise the need to support it, so I will downscale the textures before release. There'll be two downloads: one for native 1080p and under (AEON HD), the other for native 720p (AEON Legacy). As for the backdrops, you'll still have to resize those, but it's not exactly rocket science using Irfanview's batch command.
And this sig is too big, isn't it?
I agree that you will see a difference. I was just saying that in my personal opinion I didn't think the amount of a difference was worth sacrificing memory and speed. I'm sure it doesn't make much of a difference in a PC running Linux or OSX with the proper amount of RAM and the proper graphics card though.
I agree that you will see a difference. I was just saying that in my personal opinion I didn't think the amount of a difference was worth sacrificing memory and speed. I'm sure it doesn't make much of a difference in a PC running Linux or OSX with the proper amount of RAM and the proper graphics card though.
I agree here. I run on the XBOX w/ 720p output upscaled to 1080p for my 65" TV. I have seen both image resolutions and the difference is VERY small and not noticeable with casual view... e.g. not doing an A-B comparison, one after the other.
If the scaled down BMPs do not look good try converting to PNG.
... note: don't forget that the quality of the image after rescale greatly depends on the algorithm used (the application and method).
DJH... when is the next release?
So everyone's happy with the two release solution?
To reiterate, AEON is primarily designed according to my preferences and usage - everything else is taken from there. So the upgrade to 1080p textures and backdrops was designed to appease me and those who want the absolute best from their HTPC-based XBMC. At the same time, though, I appreciate all the support and requests from you guys, so please continue to point out if I'm getting ahead of myself and I'll respond.
Expect the new release within the next week. And no, it still isn't beta.
Perhaps you should just concentrate on the 1080p version but allow someone to create the 720p port by giving them access to all the psd's etc. I think you'd spend too much time worrying about making sure both versions worked and the skin as a whole would suffer.
I'm sure there are plenty of people here who would jump at the chance to help out and maintain the 720p version.
So everyone's happy with the two release solution?
DJH, I'm more than happy with this idea. Seems like a good compromise to me! Can't wait for the release.
bionic1234
2008-05-26, 14:08
So everyone's happy with the two release solution?
To reiterate, AEON is primarily designed according to my preferences and usage - everything else is taken from there. So the upgrade to 1080p textures and backdrops was designed to appease me and those who want the absolute best from their HTPC-based XBMC. At the same time, though, I appreciate all the support and requests from you guys, so please continue to point out if I'm getting ahead of myself and I'll respond.
Expect the new release within the next week. And no, it still isn't beta.
Yes djh, two release solution is perfect. Other skins like Fusion offered the same direction and for those of us with multiple displays (720 and 1080) in multiple rooms around the house, it saves us some headaches.
KevinSartori
2008-05-26, 16:17
I'll chime in as well. As an XBMC user on the original Xbox, the two release solution will be perfect. My 3.5 year old 50" Panasonic DLP is native 720p anyway...
Same here.
My Xbox is my Music Centre and my HTPC is my HD Movie Centre.
http://www.aeonismine.com/screens/aeon_flyr.jpg
http://www.aeonismine.com
Got a quick question...I can't get this "Poster" view (2nd from top) on my Movies...I get posters, but only through half of the screen and then info on the other half. Can I not get posters on the entire screen like that view in library mode?
Thanks.
Not in the old build, yes in the next one.
ok, I changed the backdrops to 720 imges with mixed results. It seems to play most files now however i run into a different problem. When i have custom images for all my backdrops, it will never display 2 custom backdrops in a row. What i mean by this is, when im at the home screen and say i strt on the movies option, if scroll to the right to the TV section, the backdrop will not display and be black, if i scroll to the right again to say music, the backdrop will show up s expected, scroll to the next one, it will be black and so on. If ever i navigate into the individual sections (movies, tv,music etc) the backdrops will show then.
I hope that made sense? Has anyone experienced this??
ok, I changed the backdrops to 720 imges with mixed results. It seems to play most files now however i run into a different problem. When i have custom images for all my backdrops, it will never display 2 custom backdrops in a row. What i mean by this is, when im at the home screen and say i strt on the movies option, if scroll to the right to the TV section, the backdrop will not display and be black, if i scroll to the right again to say music, the backdrop will show up s expected, scroll to the next one, it will be black and so on. If ever i navigate into the individual sections (movies, tv,music etc) the backdrops will show then.
I hope that made sense? Has anyone experienced this??
What format are they in?
RE: PageUp and PageDown
I've just mapped these actions to my remote for use in the Movie Poster View but AEON jumps 66 items forwards or backwards, is there a quick way for me to fix this to jump only 8?
Not in the old build, yes in the next one.
Thanks for the reply. And great work, obviously.
ok, I changed the backdrops to 720 imges with mixed results. It seems to play most files now however i run into a different problem. When i have custom images for all my backdrops, it will never display 2 custom backdrops in a row. What i mean by this is, when im at the home screen and say i strt on the movies option, if scroll to the right to the TV section, the backdrop will not display and be black, if i scroll to the right again to say music, the backdrop will show up s expected, scroll to the next one, it will be black and so on. If ever i navigate into the individual sections (movies, tv,music etc) the backdrops will show then.
I hope that made sense? Has anyone experienced this??
I had problems with black backdrops as well. It was due to problems with some of the pictures. I had a lot of them so I couldn't figure out which ones was faulty. The solution was to convert them all to png using irfanview, and back to bmp again. (you can use png too, but I think bmp makes it snappier)
smcnally75
2008-05-28, 19:37
I had problems with black backdrops as well. It was due to problems with some of the pictures. I had a lot of them so I couldn't figure out which ones was faulty. The solution was to convert them all to png using irfanview, and back to bmp again. (you can use png too, but I think bmp makes it snappier)
I think this is actually a memory issue. My xbox did this when I used 1080p images. When I went to 720p images the problem went away, but I noticed that when music was playing the visualization would pop up every other image. When I lowered the filesize of the backround image even more, that issue went away.
bionic1234
2008-05-28, 20:27
I think this is actually a memory issue. My xbox did this when I used 1080p images. When I went to 720p images the problem went away, but I noticed that when music was playing the visualization would pop up every other image. When I lowered the filesize of the backround image even more, that issue went away.
I had a similar problem and resolved it using Windows ImageResizerPowertoy to make certain that all images were sized to exactly 1280x720 (for 720p mode), then I use image editing software to crop pictures when resizing did not work.
Also, to test images (to see if they work), I simply use the AEON Backgrounds setup page to point to a "Test" background directory (for any one of the bookmarks). In this "Test" directory I place new or suspicious images. The nice thing about the bookmarks setting page is that it scrolls through the images quickly.
*works really well if you are using Linux or Windows ports because you can have another window open to do a side by side comparison of images to keep track of working images.
But for the most part I suspect that your picture dimensions are unacceptable to AEON and that is likely what I would check first.
I did the same - resized all images to 1280x720 and used Paint Shop Pro to convert everything to Jpeg. No noticable loss of quality and no problems either*
*only one problem which may not be connected - when the xbox first starts up and automatically scans the video library for changes, sometimes it freezes if you try and play a video file straight away. Looking once it's started up it seems I'm left with around 35mb memory free with the xbox idling.
Kprojekt
2008-05-29, 00:10
^
I just don't turn on automatic library scan on startup. I've never had major issues with the Aeon skin only the occasional freezup. That's only if I'm doing a lot of things at once like scanning library while uploading from an ftp and playing videos.
Damn it, I'm checking this thread like every day for an update. So eager to try out the new version :)
keland44
2008-05-29, 00:41
^
Damn it, I'm checking this thread like every day for an update. So eager to try out the new version :)
yea same here i played around with it i'm trying to figure out what skin i want to use for my htpc/server and i think this might be it this looks like it might be a keeper keep up the good work
I've just finished redoing the aeonismine.com website. The big changes are newer, higher quality screens from Alpha10 and, finally, a PHP version of the backdrops page that makes updating the damn thing 100 times easier. In fact, I'll be putting some new ones up in a few minutes.
Kprojekt
2008-05-29, 05:08
Very slick, I like your taste in movies (judging by your screenshots)
Does this hint a release very soon?
After another sustained period of shitness, I'm changing hosts for the website. The new site should be up within the next 24 hours:
www.aeoncentral.com
:rolleyes:
OMG! I *love* this skin!
Recently got a new tv (Full HD), got a HD cable for the xbox.. but was a little bit disappointed at how it all looked (the HD cable felt like a waste of money).
And then I found AEON, tried it, and am really amazed at how good this looks!
20thumbs up! :)
(did encounter some minor painting glitches in the video-wall mode when switching from video-wall to video-playing and back -> will get back to this if I find an easy way to replicate this).
I had problems with black backdrops as well. It was due to problems with some of the pictures. I had a lot of them so I couldn't figure out which ones was faulty. The solution was to convert them all to png using irfanview, and back to bmp again. (you can use png too, but I think bmp makes it snappier)
Im pretty sure all the pictures work, the way i tested this was i would change only one backdrop at a time and then test. ie i would have a custom backdrop for movies only and leave the rest as default, movies backdrop would show fine and i could see all bckdrops fine. I repeated this test for every other category and they all worked fine. Its only when i transition from 1 custom backdrop to another that the backdrop i transition to will be blank :(
Recently got a new tv (Full HD), got a HD cable for the xbox.. but was a little bit disappointed at how it all looked (the HD cable felt like a waste of money).
Have you enabled 480p, 720p and 1080i in the dash because the component cable (I assume that's what you mean by HD cable?) should make a lot of difference.
So what's the chances of a release for the weekend? I'm really waiting with baited breath for a 1080i/p optimized version to show off my new htpc....
jaredharley
2008-05-29, 20:22
Have you enabled 480p, 720p and 1080i in the dash because the component cable (I assume that's what you mean by HD cable?) should make a lot of difference.
No, I think he means HD cable as in Comcast/Cox/etc - we recently switched to an hdtv and hd cable, and there are some channels that come in just amazing, and some are so-so (even though they're HD channels, not everything they broadcast is in HD)
There'll be no need for two versions now. I've bundled the Xbox and Mac-friendly textures in with all the others and introduced two compatibility modes: GPU Friendly and Xbox mode. The first splits the largest textures into segments small enough for Intel GMA chipsets (should solve OSX issues); the second runs 720p-only textures for the benefit of Xbox users. If you're running on Xbox, that option is enabled automatically.
Kprojekt
2008-05-30, 02:05
There'll be no need for two versions now. I've bundled the Xbox and Mac-friendly textures in with all the others and introduced two compatibility modes: GPU Friendly and Xbox mode. The first splits the largest textures into segments small enough for Intel GMA chipsets (should solve OSX issues); the second runs 720p-only textures for the benefit of Xbox users. If you're running on Xbox, that option is enabled automatically.
Thank You !:shocked:
kautious
2008-05-30, 03:56
Man WOW djh!!! I like the "GPU Friendly and Xbox mode" .
Taking this skin to a
whole.. nother... level:nod:
Fantastic! You really know how to build up suspension!
There'll be no need for two versions now. I've bundled the Xbox and Mac-friendly textures in with all the others and introduced two compatibility modes: GPU Friendly and Xbox mode. The first splits the largest textures into segments small enough for Intel GMA chipsets (should solve OSX issues); the second runs 720p-only textures for the benefit of Xbox users. If you're running on Xbox, that option is enabled automatically.
Hi!
I really love the AEON skin, tried it out yesterday for the first time.
Using it on a softmodded xbox 1.6 running the second latest T3CH (due to the tv scraper problem in the latest), with 720p backdrops it works really well, except for music browsing.
After opening "artists" or "albums" in library mode it takes 4-6 minutes to display the list.
I'm well aware of the memory limitations on the good old box, but it doesn't seem like others have this problem? Is this better in newer versions, or is it something I can do with this, like reducing the artist/album thumbs?
The version I use is the Alpha9a from february, is this new version with the compatibility modes availible anywhere?
I really love this skin djh, keep up the good work!
This is the first skin to make me wanna switch away from Project Mayhem in three years use :)
Competes2win
2008-05-30, 15:47
Hi!
I really love the AEON skin, tried it out yesterday for the first time.
Using it on a softmodded xbox 1.6 running the second latest T3CH (due to the tv scraper problem in the latest), with 720p backdrops it works really well, except for music browsing.
After opening "artists" or "albums" in library mode it takes 4-6 minutes to display the list.
I'm well aware of the memory limitations on the good old box, but it doesn't seem like others have this problem? Is this better in newer versions, or is it something I can do with this, like reducing the artist/album thumbs?
The version I use is the Alpha9a from february, is this new version with the compatibility modes availible anywhere?
I really love this skin djh, keep up the good work!
This is the first skin to make me wanna switch away from Project Mayhem in three years use :)
you are using the most current released version. the new version everyone is talking about isn't released yet.
Thanks, competes2win, that's what I thought.
Does anyone have a tip to reduce the time to open artists/albums?
Does anyone have a tip to reduce the time to open artists/albums?
I think the only answer is to have fewer of them. I ran into the same kind of slow loading problems with lots of movies, tv and music when I used to use the xbox version.
Or are you saying it works fine under PMIII and this is just an Aeon issue?
I think the only answer is to have fewer of them. I ran into the same kind of slow loading problems with lots of movies, tv and music when I used to use the xbox version.
Or are you saying it works fine under PMIII and this is just an Aeon issue?
Yes, it's fine under PMIII, I can check now as I'm at home
Opening Artists takes about 10 seconds in PMIII (1964 artists, most with artist thumbs), and albums a bit shorter, 5-6 seconds (1549 albums, all with coverart). Now for Aeon...
...strange, today it's just as fast in Aeon :) :) :)
How strange is that?
I don't care why, it's working now! Yesterday it really took several minutes.
I love this skin, looking forward to next release.
Thank you for trying to help :)
Djh - any particular charity you'd like money donated to?
The tslayer foundation is what he always recommends.
http://cms.iucn.org/about/work/programmes/species/red_list/donate/index.cfm
Cheers
Thought you'd appreciate some font choices...
http://www.aeoncentral.com/dropbin/aeon_newfont2.jpg
http://www.aeoncentral.com/dropbin/aeon_newfont3.jpg
<scratch, scratch>
I'm itch'n for the new version... it would be great to get a release on Sunday along with the new T3CH build ;)
Kprojekt
2008-05-31, 07:52
Thought you'd appreciate some font choices...
I like the second one. It seems more appropriate for the theme. The first one is a little too bold and curved to fit the sleek design of your Aeon theme.
djh - looking at the new screenshots, is it now possible for the user to define where the menu scroll bar is placed? Fantastic news if so.
oh, and any chance of when having weather on the main screen, being able to choose it's position? Top left instead of bottom left would be much better
Great to have choice in fonts!
http://www.aeoncentral.com/dropbin/aeon_newfontrss.jpg
Out tomorrow. :cool:
Out tomorrow. :cool:
Wow, really hope you manage to get it out tomorrow. Still the best skin for XBMC by far.
Also, I notice a few new backdrops in your latest screenshots I don't seem to have like Wall*e, any chance of releasing those too?
Kprojekt
2008-05-31, 19:49
Tonight! YES!
In my opinion, the kerning on the thin font makes it flow better than the bold font. However, I also like the definition of the bold font as well.
I say increase the kerning on the bold font and see how it turns out.
http://www.aeoncentral.com/dropbin/aeon_newfontrss.jpg
Out tomorrow. :cool:
Tonight. :cool::cool:
Dr Who and a new AEON in one night.:laugh:
Can an Xbox user and a Mac OSX user get in touch with me asap (like in the next few hours) regarding testing? The Xbox user has to be a regular Aeon user who has relatively few problems with backdrops etc. The Mac user, on the other hand, has to be running an Intel GMA chipset and suffer issues with the media panels. If you know what I'm talking about, you're probably who I'm looking for.
Both testers need to be on MSN Messenger and available this evening.
Word.
snuggidk
2008-05-31, 22:06
Hey .. great skin.. looking real hot :) .. but is it me or is the website down? :(
Hey .. great skin.. looking real hot :) .. but is it me or is the website down? :(
Use http://www.aeoncentral.com/ instead now...
snuggidk
2008-05-31, 22:17
Use http://www.aeoncentral.com/ instead now...
Ok thanks alot :) .. should be edited in first post :laugh:
smcnally75
2008-05-31, 22:42
Man, I love the new font! I also love the option of having the bar down low. I can't wait to try this new version out.
...so how many folks are refreshing this thread every 20 minutes..? ;)
Try again in 1hr 53mins. :;):
ewequeone
2008-06-01, 02:24
djh_, are you going to be releasing some of your new backdrops that have appeared in your most recent screenshots? :)
cheers,
ewequeone.
kautious
2008-06-01, 02:52
...so how many folks are refreshing this thread every 20 minutes..? ;)
I'm doing it from work :laugh:
smcnally75
2008-06-01, 04:10
Sweet! I'm downloading it right now :D
Up!
www.aeoncentral.com
http://www.aeoncentral.com/downloads/builds/Aeon_ALPHA10.zip
Please check the readme file while it's downloading, specifically the bit about known issues.
Expect weekly code updates over the coming months.
Up!
www.aeoncentral.com
http://www.aeoncentral.com/downloads/builds/Aeon_ALPHA10.zip
Please check the readme file while it's downloading, specifically the bit about known issues.
Expect weekly code updates over the coming months.
It's sweet. i love having the main nav bar down lower.
Works great in the windows ver of XBMC.
Thanks!
zachmo826
2008-06-01, 05:02
Great skin, this is the best thing i have ever put onto my mac.
I was wondering if there was any way to have a marker show up on the files i've already watched. without it i spend a lot of time looking for which episode i left off on.
Great skin, this is the best thing i have ever put onto my mac.
I was wondering if there was any way to have a marker show up on the files i've already watched. without it i spend a lot of time looking for which episode i left off on.
...I don't have my XBMC up right now, but can't you keep the display in library mode and have it hide plot summaries for unwatched files..?
(Just like you can in "vanilla" XBMC)
Two issues I've found on the xbox: The scripts screen is blank. Had to go via the files menu to find my trailers... Also the files screen isn't using the entire screen. It looks like it's using 640x480(?) and not 1280x720.
Great apart from those issues :)
smcnally75
2008-06-01, 05:47
djh, I have this running on my xbox and selected the setting that lowers the resolution for the xbox (and set my backgrounds to 720p). A couple things I've noticed so far since switching from the last version. The TV Shows background never shows (I've tried 4 separate backgrounds) but all the other category backgrounds show up just fine. Going to "Scripts" brings me to a blank page where I can't do anything. Going to "Arcade" brings me to a blank page where I can't do anything. All of this was working in the last version so I don't know if there is something I need to setup or if it is a memory issue. Any ideas? I love the new look, and I really like the new fonts.
Kprojekt
2008-06-01, 05:53
djh, I have this running on my xbox and selected the setting that lowers the resolution for the xbox (and set my backgrounds to 720p). A couple things I've noticed so far since switching from the last version. The TV Shows background never shows (I've tried 4 separate backgrounds) but all the other category backgrounds show up just fine. Going to "Scripts" brings me to a blank page where I can't do anything. Going to "Arcade" brings me to a blank page where I can't do anything. All of this was working in the last version so I don't know if there is something I need to setup or if it is a memory issue. Any ideas? I love the new look, and I really like the new fonts.
Make sure they're bmp 24bit with proper resolution.
As for Arcade, I've noticed this as well and assumed renaming the Arcade folder would work. My bet is to check out the XML files
cheers
I'll take a look at the Arcade/Scripts issue and post an update in about an hour. It'll be another complete version, though, so you'll have to download and reinstall.
Actually, I'll reupload the complete version and post a patch here. No point wasting time and bandwidth on a 10k fix.
http://www.aeoncentral.com/dropbin/Aeon_ALPHA10_bugfix.zip
Just extract to Aeon's 720p folder and Scripts and Arcade will be back, with selectable views.
just downloaded it on my mac, with newest beta of osxbmc, and the skin loads up, tells me my xbmc version is outdated from 12may and that i need the version from 18 may. i select the option for clearing all settings. when it goes back i dont see any text just blocks where text should be. btw using on 1920x1080 1080p tv.
Hmm, that shouldn't happen. And the old build should barely matter. I'd be interested to hear if anyone's suffering that - it has tested successfully on OSX.
New backdrops are up, btw. And yes, I know they're displaying in a funny order and that the new ones aren't highlighted.
ok i just opened up the aeon folder and i only see a 720p folder, no 1080 folder. the reason i mention is because the way some of these problems went away with alpha 9a was to copy the 720p folder and rename it 1080i. im downloading the file from aeoncentral and its called aeon_alpha10, so it seems liek the right file. btw im on mac mini with intel gpu.
ewequeone
2008-06-01, 07:00
New backdrops are up, btw.
thanks for that, greatly appreciated.
cheers,
jason.
ok sorry about the barage of posts, i just tried it on xbmc windows with newest build jsut to see if it works and exactly same problem. the text for menus is all blocks. in both windows and mac i can see the smaller text for submenus correctly its only the main headings that are not showing up in both win and mac xbmc.
hey there, new release is a great improvement.
however, playlists view does not work; gives a mostly black screen.
zeuss-axis
2008-06-01, 08:07
I experienced the 'text block' problem yesterday, but it was on a Windows machine with XBMC Rev 13239 for Windows, and Aeon Alpha9A. This is my first venture into XBMC for Windows, so I just fished for the right menu and switched back to PM3. It would seem its something to do with available fonts in the latest Rev of XBMC, not Aeon.
just downloaded it on my mac, with newest beta of osxbmc, and the skin loads up, tells me my xbmc version is outdated from 12may and that i need the version from 18 may. i select the option for clearing all settings. when it goes back i dont see any text just blocks where text should be. btw using on 1920x1080 1080p tv.
Very strange, I did not notice that while testing on a Macbook with 0.5.4b which graphics card are you using and did you have a previous version of Aeon installed?
Hey djh loving the new release just 1 minor issue. Im using an Xbox and I cant seem to get the widescreen icons view for my TVshows. Loved the way you had it for 9a, are you able to put that view back on?
keep up the good work :)
I think wide icons are broken/disabled in this build
I cant seem to get the widescreen icons view for my TVshows.
Also the files screen isn't using the entire screen. It looks like it's using 640x480(?) and not 1280x720.
Readme -
1.0 Important notes
--------------------
The latest version of AEON, Alpha10, has changed considerably. Its
textures now offer native 1080p support while many new options have been
added. Some familiar ones have been disabled, however, to be upgraded or
removed at a later date.
Xbox users must ensure they're running the latest T3CH build to enjoy
this latest version, and should then ensure the new Xbox mode (available
via the Aeon->Features menu) is enabled; 1080p textures and seven year old
consoles don't play well together. For that reason, any backdrops from
the Aeon website should be resized to 720p or lower to avoid out-of-memory
issues. Also, thumbnails should be kept to the Xbox default resolution.
Here are some known issues with this build:
- File Manager is unusable
- Music visualisation album art overlay is messed up
- Music OSD is a bit messed up
- Music Visualisation settings are unusable
- Wide icons have been disabled pending a redesign
- The Info panels only display properly for Movie lookups
- Plenty of minor glitches scattered here and there
- The GPU Friendly mode may cause a seam to appear in
the media panes when running at non-720p resolutions
Thanks for the new release. Too bad it still has problems on Mac Minis :sad:
http://img230.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bild1ab7.png
http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/3015/bild1ab7.png
The volume bar placement is off while being in music/file view.
I love the skin, but the fonts a very small. I have a big TV (82cm widescreen PAL CRT) but the small font's are a bit hard to read from a meter of two.
ewequeone
2008-06-01, 15:21
dude, if you're going to say its got problems, at least TELL people what you're talking about so they don't have to guess.
useless poster is useless.
Thanks for the new release. Too bad it still has problems on Mac Minis :sad:
http://img230.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bild1ab7.png
If you look at the image posted by me today it should be pretty clear what the problem is. Here is the URL to the image if it doesn't show up corretly in my previous post:
http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/3015/bild1ab7.png
I confirm. The bug on the Mac Minis is still there...
No no no no the bug is fixed !!!!
Go in the Aeon preferences, you will find GPU friendly mode. Activate it. And voilà !
No no no no the bug is fixed !!!!
Go in the Aeon preferences, you will find GPU friendly mode. Activate it. And voilà !
It is indeed fixed! You've made my day :D:D:D
djh, I have this running on my xbox and selected the setting that lowers the resolution for the xbox (and set my backgrounds to 720p). A couple things I've noticed so far since switching from the last version. The TV Shows background never shows (I've tried 4 separate backgrounds) but all the other category backgrounds show up just fine. Going to "Scripts" brings me to a blank page where I can't do anything. Going to "Arcade" brings me to a blank page where I can't do anything. All of this was working in the last version so I don't know if there is something I need to setup or if it is a memory issue. Any ideas? I love the new look, and I really like the new fonts.
TV Show background never shows for me either. :(
Have you tried it using custom backgrounds? Just trying to diagnose the problem here.
Up!
www.aeoncentral.com
http://www.aeoncentral.com/downloads/builds/Aeon_ALPHA10.zip
Please check the readme file while it's downloading, specifically the bit about known issues.
Expect weekly code updates over the coming months.
thank you! Master!
http://www.mercuryserver.com/forums/images/smilies/bowdown2.gif
sebastianzz
2008-06-01, 18:55
Hi for some reason "Now playing" is not working for me when I'm using aeon skin on my osxbmc.....basically I'm getting black screen with no option to control player.
Screenshot:
http://idisk.mac.com/sebastianzz/Public/xbmc.jpg
Rand Al Thor
2008-06-01, 18:56
Congrats on the new release djh. Looks mighty pretty. Just a little reminder to everyone. If djh hasn't said it enough I will say it again. READ THE README BEFORE YOU POST A BUG REPORT. Cheers.
zeuss-axis
2008-06-01, 19:02
A couple things:
When removing an item from the library, you also get a prompt for deleting the file. The text for this prompt is jumbled-- both the prompting text and the file name are in the same hSpace. This issue also existed in 9A.
When browsing TV shows in the library (may also happen in other places; I only have TV Shows to test with), the clock displays "0". The clock returns if you hover over the ".." (folder up) icon, and cycles between "0" and the time.
Meanwhile, loving the additional features...
just downloaded it on my mac, with newest beta of osxbmc, and the skin loads up, tells me my xbmc version is outdated from 12may and that i need the version from 18 may. i select the option for clearing all settings. when it goes back i dont see any text just blocks where text should be. btw using on 1920x1080 1080p tv.
I get a message on XBMC version when I load AEON as well, but when I _read_ it, it says that my version is fine. It _looks_ like an out-of-date message but it's not.
ok sorry about the barage of posts, i just tried it on xbmc windows with newest build jsut to see if it works and exactly same problem. the text for menus is all blocks. in both windows and mac i can see the smaller text for submenus correctly its only the main headings that are not showing up in both win and mac xbmc.
I'm running it fine on windows, without any problems that aren't outlined in the readme.
smcnally75
2008-06-01, 20:12
Have you tried it using custom backgrounds? Just trying to diagnose the problem here.
Yes, I've tried all different backgrounds and for some reason none work on TV Shows. Even if I set it to the same background that I am using for movies, it still gives me a black black background.
kautious
2008-06-01, 20:40
Thanks dhj!!! Love the new release:grin:
I'm using this on my xbox and eveything that I use it for is working great.
Something I noticed is that when I'm playing music and I have the visuals on, the song name, play time, album art pop's up and then goes away.
Is there anything I can do to make it stay there like in the last one?
Thanks again!!
Yes, I've tried all different backgrounds and for some reason none work on TV Shows. Even if I set it to the same background that I am using for movies, it still gives me a black black background.
Which operating system?
smcnally75
2008-06-01, 21:55
Which operating system?
Xbox (I have it setup for the xbox in the settings too)
gummismurfen
2008-06-01, 22:05
Hi just wanted to tell that the adult shortcut does not show any files , and the pictures backgrounds show the adult backgrounds if the adult background folder is set .
nice work the skin is realy looking great
Love the skin. The movie menus look great. One feature I'd like to see one day is for the Movie info screen is being able to see a larger version of the movie cover when changing movie covers for the specific movie.
One small bug I've also noticed is disabling the Poster view for "TV Shows" in Library mode in the AEON menu does not disable Posters view.
ok figured out the fix on the mac mini. even when i enabled gpu friendly mode the font bug did not go away (on mac mini with leopard 10.5.3 as well as bootcamp xp). i enabled of the the two alternative font options, which worked for me. both of those options work fine, but for some reason default font still shows blocks despite gpu mode. i'm happy enoguh with this so its great its working now.
Clips doesn't show anything. I set the shortcut name and it goes to the right spot, but nothing is listed. I know it goes to the right spot because it says "33 items" at the top and then "7 items" when I go back one level. Other than that and the things you are continuing work on (file manager, wide icon formats), it looks and works amazing. :)
dteirney
2008-06-02, 12:27
@djh
This skin is pretty frickin cool. I predominantly use XBMC for watching Movies and also recorded TV from a backend Myth TV server. Rand Al Thor did some mods to ALPHA9A to list and play content using the myth:// protocol that has been added to XBMC (so you can get a list of live TV channels, view the list based guide for a particular channel and to view the list of recorded TV shows). Rand Al Thor is not going to make those changes to the ALPHA10 release, instead focusing on putting together his own skin.
Are you planning on putting in any skin support for the Myth TV integration that exists in XBMC???
If you are I will wait for that. If not I will keep battling on to try and figure out the easiest way to replicate some of the mods that Rand Al Thor made to ALPHA9A (there were quite a few).
The things that are obviously different between ALPHA10 and the modded ALPHA9A are:
The "Live TV" menu that lived on the home page
Some way to navigate the myth:// protocol directory listing (I tried hijacking the Clips menu to point to my Myth TV source, but the only view I can choose is "Icon", and the top level listing from myth:// doesn't seem to have any icons so I can't see anything to navigate to.
The "Movie/Episode View" to get a synopsis of the episode and the snapshot image.
If you've got any suggestions about the best way to add this in please let me know. I think I just need a menu entry in the home page that points to my Myth TV source and then a view that works with the myth:// directory listing.
ezechiel1917
2008-06-02, 12:52
Thanks for new version.
How can I properly post debug for my problems with latest version?
I have a lot of crashes, everytime with music photowall (even when no covers associated with albums), everytime with tv library any view, and when listing some titles in movies library, old version worked fine. tried fresh install and new DBs, nothing helped.
1080p, latest version of xbmc win32 port, nVidia GPU.
How do I get a version of XBMC for Win Vista 32?
I dont have all the programs to make my own. Do I HAVE TO do it my self, or is it possible to download a .exe?
/Söder
I've noticed these problems on the Win32 port - seems specific to that platform. If the problems persist, I'll check it out.
@szsori: Clips is my bad, I'm afraid. I'll post a fix sometime today.
jaredharley
2008-06-02, 15:22
How do I get a version of XBMC for Win Vista 32?
I dont have all the programs to make my own. Do I HAVE TO do it my self, or is it possible to download a .exe?
/Söder
You need to visit the Windows forum:
http://xbmc.org/forum/showthread.php?t=33562
Uh oh, I appear to be incurring 20gb of bandwidth a day - not good for a site with a 100gb bandwidth limit. Anyone got any solutions for combining affordable web hosting with high bandwidth?
Have you looked at setting up a bittorrent tracker for the pictures ? That would help with the bandwidth alot - especially because alot of users would be willing to help seed the files I suppose. The pictures you have on the site are of so good quality, I bet alot of people download them not only for Aeon but for wallpaper purposes as well - and that really eats up your bandwidth I guess :(
your best two solutions ..
- torrent .. http://www.legittorrents.info/ .. all legal all the time.
- put the skin in the SVN .. small downloads after first time :]
great update as usual , i can still only use Aeon on one of my 2 TV's .. the need to be able to set sleep from the shutdown bar is to great for the other ;]
thanx again.
Well, I've switched (AGAIN) to a provider in the US offer 5000gb of bandwidth as opposed to 100gb. That should cover it for now, at least. The site's transferring to the new server now so give it a couple of hours for the backdrops etc. Here's hoping they're not shit.
I suspect I'll also be stripping the default backdrops out of the skin and replacing them with flat colours or something. That should bring the filesize down, not to mention free things up for SVN action.
I suspect I'll also be stripping the default backdrops out of the skin and replacing them with flat colours or something. That should bring the filesize down, not to mention free things up for SVN action.
How about using the ones dteirney got permission to use for AEON -
http://www.teirney.net/blog/2008/05/21/photeon-backdrops-for-xbmc-aeon-skin-released/
I've use this one for my 'Settings' page -
http://www.teirney.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/settings.jpg
Nooo the download link doesn't work, on aeoncentral :(
Anyone have a mirror for Alpha 10 please? :-)
Thanks for the realease djh!
/Martin
Nooo the download link doesn't work, on aeoncentral :(
:rolleyes:
The site's transferring to the new server now so give it a couple of hours for the backdrops etc.
How about using the ones dteirney got permission to use for AEON -
Defeats the purpose, really. I need to essentially remove the default backdrops altogether to bring the filesize down.
Fair enough, I assumed there were copyright issues with the others going on SVN.
Uh oh, I appear to be incurring 20gb of bandwidth a day - not good for a site with a 100gb bandwidth limit. Anyone got any solutions for combining affordable web hosting with high bandwidth?
djh... http://www.hostmonster.com/
TheTVDB was previously with them until we used too much CPU power. As long as you're just providing direct downloads and not custom PHP, it should work wonderfully. Unlimited bandwidth and storage, and it runs around $80/year.
keland44
2008-06-02, 19:23
i'll be waiting can't wait to check out this new build
:rolleyes:
If you actually read my post, you'll see that I ask for a mirror for the dl.
So, no need for the rolleyes.
The link'll be back up again in about an hour.
cellopoly
2008-06-02, 21:35
All of the Xport emulators allow a parameter for the rom path. I've used this along with a perl script to generate shortcut files for all of my roms (entire NES, SNES, Genesis, Atari, and N64 sets plus some C64). The N64 emulators are the only ones that won't work this way.
Since I also have cover art for each rom, I put that info in the shortcut files as well. The result is a completely integrated emulation section of XBMC.
Example:
I was just curious what file are you adding the Shortcuts to. Ive been playing around with this and cant seem to find the right xml
PS
ABSOLUTELY AMAZING WORK DJH
djh was wondering if you think it would be possible to get alternative viewtypes for album art?
I really like the CD cases, but I was thinking a Vinyl sleeve style would be cooler to have aswell (as an option)
Thanks a lot, and great work on the skin!
(Also, I've made a ton of bgs, would you be ok with me sharign them in the other thread?)
a Vinyl sleeve
I like this idea. It's not something I can do now, though, more a beta feature. Consider it logged.
no alpha 10 download yet djh?
yes, I'm impatient :D
smcnally75
2008-06-02, 22:59
no alpha 10 download yet djh?
yes, I'm impatient :D
So impatient that you haven't read the last few pages and realized it was released Saturday night? :laugh:
So impatient that you haven't read the last few pages and realized it was released Saturday night? :laugh:
Hehe, maybe you should read just the last 2 pages or so and see that the download link has been down a while ;)
smcnally75
2008-06-02, 23:36
Hehe, maybe you should read just the last 2 pages or so and see that the download link has been down a while ;)
Maybe you should try the download link again...It was up when I typed my last response ;)
smcnally75
2008-06-02, 23:37
Also, in case you weren't aware, it is now http://www.aeoncentral.com/ instead of aeonismine.com
Maybe you should try the download link again...It was up when I typed my last response ;)
Hmm, doesn't work here:
The requested URL /downloads/builds/Aeon_ALPHA10.zip was not found on this server.
I'm at aeoncentral.com
The file's going up now. I've changed things slightly so there are now only two default backdrops, one for settings and one for everything else. It's brought the filesize down to about 25mb. This new version has a very simple fix for the Clips problem spotted earlier. The link should be working in about 10 minutes.
keland44
2008-06-03, 01:06
nice i just downloaded it can't wait to get my hand on some of those new backdrops that joker backdrop is sweet
good job djh
seems to be working okay on
core 2 duo processor 2.2ghz 2 gb ram with t3ch and xmbc latest build i'll keep playin around with it and see how it works out
Hey djh. Thought I'd point out a bug. While watching a dvd, If you press the menu button then goto rootmenu, instead of going to the dvd menu it stops the movie. Keep up the good work.
P.S. Looking forward to getting the widescreen icons back.
----xbox user----
dteirney
2008-06-03, 11:57
DNS lookup for aeoncentral.com doesn't seem to resolve to anything?
nslookup www.aeoncentral.com
Server: 192.168.1.254
Address: 192.168.1.254#53
** server can't find www.aeoncentral.com: SERVFAIL
Does anyone else have this problem? I'm in New Zealand so perhaps it's a DNS resolution cache issue since the host was just changed.
Rats. Was really hoping to try the fix to Clips this evening...
I have a question, not directly about Aeon but...
I got a lot of TV Shows. Before using XBMC, i used Front Row (on Mac). In Front Row there is no library mode. So, all my TV Shows appear this way in my hard drive : Name of the show/Season/Episode. I don't want to rename everything for the library mode, it will be a real pain. But is there a way, in file mode, to use custom backgrounds for each TV Shows ?
DNS lookup for aeoncentral.com doesn't seem to resolve to anything?
nslookup www.aeoncentral.com
Server: 192.168.1.254
Address: 192.168.1.254#53
** server can't find www.aeoncentral.com: SERVFAIL
Does anyone else have this problem? I'm in New Zealand so perhaps it's a DNS resolution cache issue since the host was just changed.
Rats. Was really hoping to try the fix to Clips this evening...
I have the same problem. http://www.aeoncentral.com/ doesnt work.
Another thing, when I use "picture" i get to "comics" and its not possible to use photowall i.e.
At moment I use the win version on vista...
/Soder
The DNS entries reset for the domain name. Should be fixed soon enough.
Use this in the meantime: http://75.126.153.89/~aeoncent/
The DNS entries reset for the domain name. Should be fixed soon enough.
Use this in the meantime: http://75.126.153.89/~aeoncent/
Are you gonna set up a RSS for the backdrops? I would make easier to see what you already downloaded...
Also, I notiesed? that when you had backdrops in 720p on the site, there was some versions, thats not up now...i.e. the movie 300.. Will all the old be availible in 1080p to?
/Soder
KevinSartori
2008-06-03, 15:19
I've changed things slightly so there are now only two default backdrops, one for settings and one for everything else. It's brought the filesize down to about 25mb.
I have custom directories set for Music, Movies and Pictures, but I like the default backdrops for Adult and Weather. Are those gone in the new build? If so, can you add them to your download section?
Great work on Aeon BTW! The only problem I've noticed, which I think has already been mentioned is that the playlist screen is almost all black on Xbox. It was like this with build 9a also.
Thanks!
when you had backdrops in 720p on the site, there was some versions, thats not up now...i.e. the movie 300.. Will all the old be availible in 1080p to?
I'm waiting on 1080p-friendly artwork for some of those older ones. All the other issues mentioned here I'll see to tonight.
I think I've got all the new backdrops but 'starwarsep21080.zip' is corrupt.
No, I think he means HD cable as in Comcast/Cox/etc - we recently switched to an hdtv and hd cable, and there are some channels that come in just amazing, and some are so-so (even though they're HD channels, not everything they broadcast is in HD)
I indeed mean the component cable.
I had my xbox/xbmc configured to show NTSC 720p, and it was also displaying it without a problem.
What I mean was: my default skin just did not look as good as I had expected in 720p (kind looked the same, did not really make use of the higher def it seemed).
But with the AEON skin I did really see the difference, and it had a real WOW effect. :)
keland44
2008-06-03, 19:04
yea i think i killed your bandwidth i think i downloaded about 40 new backdrops from the movies and tv section
did you create these yourself? this are pretty good
gummismurfen
2008-06-03, 21:53
djh the adult shortcut have the same problem like clips had ,is there an easy way to fix this?
keland44
2008-06-03, 22:05
is there a way to change the weather from the first destination? if so how i couldn't figure it out
xeonicxpression
2008-06-04, 00:26
When I go to the movies section and view my library, I can no longer get the wall of posters view. Did I miss a post about this being worked on or is this just a SNAFU with my system?
djh was wondering if you think it would be possible to get alternative viewtypes for album art?
I really like the CD cases, but I was thinking a Vinyl sleeve style would be cooler to have aswell (as an option)
Thanks a lot, and great work on the skin!
(Also, I've made a ton of bgs, would you be ok with me sharign them in the other thread?)
Please share!
It doesn't have pictures yet so it's a bit plain, but...
www.aeoncentral.com/blog.php
Now let's see about those bugs.
When I go to the movies section and view my library, I can no longer get the wall of posters view. Did I miss a post about this being worked on or is this just a SNAFU with my system?
I'm having the same problem as well. I hope there's a fix, its my favorite view!
That might have something to do with me accidentally deleting the entire Wallviews.xml file from that last release. Whoops. It'll be up and fixed in about an hour.
EDIT: And now it is.
xeonicxpression
2008-06-04, 04:22
That might have something to do with me accidentally deleting the entire Wallviews.xml file from that last release. Whoops. It'll be up and fixed in about an hour.
EDIT: And now it is.
Works now, thanks! As a side note, it seems kind of jumpy. It seems like it is only when it first scrolls then its fine after that. Also, in file mode for movies the tips overlay ontop of the bar that have the view, library, and whatever else is on there. Thanks for the great skin!
Yeah, the jumpiness is unavoidable, I think. Something to do with the number of large textures being bumped around. I meant to fix those overlapping tutorials... I'll do it now.
I cant download the Aeon PSD package.
The requested URL /downloads/misc/aeonPSD.zip was not found on this server.
Oh yeah, and I meant to sort that out as well. It's being replaced as the new versions make it obsolete. Should have the new one up in a day or so.
xeonicxpression
2008-06-04, 04:48
Yeah, the jumpiness is unavoidable, I think. Something to do with the number of large textures being bumped around. I meant to fix those overlapping tutorials... I'll do it now.
Yea, I figured it had something to do with that. Do you think it is more a limitation of my graphics card (8600gt 256mb) or of xbmc? If a faster graphics card would solve it, then when I build my dedicated HTPC I'll make sure to get one thats a little better. Does anyone not experience the jumpiness? If so what are your specs. As a side note, I'm using Ubuntu 8.04.
That might have something to do with me accidentally deleting the entire Wallviews.xml file from that last release. Whoops. It'll be up and fixed in about an hour.
EDIT: And now it is.
Awesome, thanks! Keep up the good work, your skin in glorious on my new 1080p display.
i have a problem when going through TVshows in the main menu and in library mode
the page will load in library mode and i will see my shows in list mode.
at this stage the cursor is on the ".." to go back
however as soon as i arrow down to highlight a show i get an instant crash
i am using the latest wiso build for win32
build 13239
forgot to mention that in file mode its fine. its just library mode
ezechiel1917
2008-06-04, 13:50
i have a problem when going through TVshows in the main menu and in library mode
the page will load in library mode and i will see my shows in list mode.
at this stage the cursor is on the ".." to go back
however as soon as i arrow down to highlight a show i get an instant crash
i am using the latest wiso build for win32
build 13239
I have a same problem (with other instant crashes in movie library, photowall music library etc) as mentioned few pages back, djh said there are some problems specific to win32 port, we just have to wait. My guess is that AEON is getting data from DBs somehow wrong and XBMC crashes
ie: 17:06:58 T:708 M:1155805184 WARNING: DIRECTORY::CMusicDatabaseDirectory::GetLabel - Unknown nodetype requested 2.
sandman4sure
2008-06-04, 17:59
Hello!
First of all, thanks for this wonderfull skin!!
I'm using osxbmc, and have a lot of problems with the size of the fonts. (in the menu, in the movie information page etc) Especially when I change between full screen and "recommended resolution"
I for now am using an iMac as primary screen, getting a new LCD next week
Is there a fix for that? I already tried the OSX setting in the AEON menu (the CPU friendly mode)
DarkVamp1976
2008-06-04, 21:57
Hi,
I just got my new HD TV (Samsung LE40-A557) and wonder why the project mayhem III looks so ugly in 720p mode....
Thanks got 4 your great work... Go on with it....
Something wierd is going on with mine now (on Xbox and PC) - when I boot up I get a picture of some clouds in the top left of the screen.
Well first off, wanted to thank AEON developers for creating such an awesome interface. I hope this becomes the ultimate interface for xbmc, since i just got on the bandwagon and started using OSXBMC.
A quick suggest to the developer for backdrops. Since i read on the blog that all the backdrops were converted into UHQ-JPG's for solving bandwidth costs. I was wondering what if the backdrops could be provided in .TIFF format, since we would have to convert each .JPG into .BMP for smooth transitions and as JPG is a lossy compression format. It does reduce the file size significantly based on the amount of compression, but converting it into .BMP format would be like up-scaling SD to HD. Contrary to this, .TIFF format is considered is a lossless format just like .BMP but the file size is very comparable to .JPG and can be easily converted to .BMP without any loss in quality while maintaining bandwidth savvy file size.
If possible i can convert all the original .BMP files to .TIFF format ready to be uploaded if someone can email or fileshare me the original .BMP backdrops. I have all the movie backdrops in their .BMP format that i will be converting to .TIFF format and uploading the link to them. I will really appreciate if someone can upload the .BMP backdrops for music, pictures, tv shows and games to rapidshare or torrents and notify me.
I want everyone to have as pleasant experience with xbmc as the developers intended.
Something wierd is going on with mine now (on Xbox and PC) - when I boot up I get a picture of some clouds in the top left of the screen.
The top left clouds thing happens for a split second on my install during boot-up. Never again, though. Obviously, it's come about since I stripped out all the other backdrops. Are you saying it stays permanently visible in that part of the screen?
ezechiel1917
thanks mate, i had a feeling it was something to do with the win32 build
The top left clouds thing happens for a split second on my install during boot-up. Never again, though. Obviously, it's come about since I stripped out all the other backdrops. Are you saying it stays permanently visible in that part of the screen?
No, sorry it appears very briefly after the XBMC logo.
It should be easy to track down.
A quick suggest to the developer for backdrops. Since i read on the blog that all the backdrops were converted into UHQ-JPG's for solving bandwidth costs. I was wondering what if the backdrops could be provided in .TIFF format...
Could you elaborate on this a bit more? I can't say I've seen a lossless TIFF file achieve sizes similar to JPG. Also, isn't a compressed TIFF supposed to open more slowly than a regular one?