Macromedia Flash (SWF) and Adobe Flash Video (FLV) [Archive]

PolishKid

2003-10-02, 04:09

i would really love to see support for flash animations and games for the xbmc. i love looking at flash animations online and i would love to be able to download them and put them on my xbox and view them at any time especially on the tv. i am really surprised that this has not been mentioned yet and not on the to-do list.

Hullebulle

2003-10-02, 04:15

it has been mentioned for xbmp many times, but the problem is that thzere isn't a good open source flash viewer we can use.

trasher

2004-01-09, 23:15

i have a large collection of swf files on my computer. but as lazy and convinient i am, i would like to watch them on my xbox instead.
i know it's a difficult thing to do, but it would be totally awesome!

love your work with the xbmc!

roadrash

2004-01-10, 00:34

i agree but is that what a media player is for? maybe!!!

personaly i have a large amount of flash stuff myself (joe cartoon etc) but i think i would prefer to see xbmc rival or better windows media player first..

billcow

2004-01-20, 08:21

Frodo

2004-01-20, 09:00

1. there are no good opensource flash libraries
2. even if there was, i think there are lots of features requests which have a higher priority

frodo

Gamester17

2004-01-20, 12:37

if you users want to see this then you should lobby thatcher ulrich (http://sourceforge.net/projects/tu-testbed/) and/or ignacio castaño (http://www.gameswf.de/) to port gameswf (http://www.tulrich.com/geekstuff/gameswf.html) into an xbox lib

floink

2004-01-20, 22:10

cool... they do seem to have an xbox port in plan too. *:d

as a sidenote; if this was indeed ported to xbox and then ported into xbmc and made availble for the xbmc gui there could be some really useful stuff made as for improving usability. and ofcourse also cool bells & whistles stuff http://www.xboxmediaplayer.de/forums/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

b01

2004-01-21, 00:56

it would be nice to use a fla or swf as a background or button in xbcm (for interface puposes).

dont u think so?

Hullebulle

2004-01-21, 04:45

i already talked to turlich a couple of months ago and he was inetersted in flash support for xbmc, but his player was far away fmo perfect playback for most of the files. but his main goal was to invent an easy to use menu engine for games and apps (and a port for the xbox) anyway. i don't know how far he developed it in the last months (i am subscribed to the cvs mailinglist, but don't understand a word of whats going on there).

so maybe one day we can use it for menus.

thebeast

2004-02-11, 02:12

1. there are no good opensource flash libraries
2. even if there was, i think there are lots of features requests which have a higher priority

frodo
what you wrote hullebulle, i would like nothing better, but i have to agree with frodo. and i'll just add that, only the day that it's pretty "easy" to add support in using a 3rd party flash player xbox port, it seems to me relevant.

maybe xboxmediaplayer.de could mention this as a posiblity for a future idea and do a "contest"...

slybo

2004-03-17, 02:45

will xbmc ever be able to play .swf files?
just think. xiaoxiao animations and strongbad e-mails on my tv.

Art

2004-03-17, 12:33

that would be definitely cool, but i don't see how it would be possible right now. there's an open source projet to do a free swf player but it's far from being finished yet. maybe someday ...

http://www.openswf.org/

thebeast

2004-03-20, 15:19

yeah maybe some day. but what about linking to a contest on some xbox scene pages and other places, on front page??

i have a few friends who are crazy enough to like joe cartoon.

jb_here

2004-07-25, 22:31

was wondering if anyone would be intrested in the linux version of flash 4 source, would help ya's in making your own screensavers

http://www.swift-tools.net/flash/

tia :kickass:

Wuslon

2004-08-21, 12:38

hi,

ysbox has portet the gplflash swf decoding library to the xbox.

what's this?
~~~~~~~~~~~~

this is a decoding library for macromedia flash™ animations, compiled for use
with homebrew applications compiled with the xdk.

due to the number of requests for flash support in linksboks, i've decided to
experiment a bit on this library and here's the result.

how well does it work?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

the original library could play any file in the flash 4 format and below. tomas
groth included support for compressed swf files so that flash 6/7 files are
supposed to work. however, there's a lot of remaining limitations:

- no sound on xbox! because there's quite a lot of work to do, and it doesn't
*work so well in linux too; no compressed (mp3...) support. but it will happen
*one day, i hope.
- no videos.
- problems with semi-transparent jpeg files (visible in the happy tree friends,
*for example ;)
- no text boxes, etc.
- no real-time downloading support or socket access (as far as i know).
- graphic glitches and performance issues here and there.
- probably a lot more...

but a lot of animations do work very well, if not perfect.

http://www.xbox-scene.com/xbox1data/sep/epafpflpepzyfmcshd.php

you can find the xbox swfxplayer and sourcecode on the usual places.
hehe maybe some day we can find some pieces of the swfxplayer in xbmc ?

Kilokahn

2005-01-04, 07:05

i did a search for "flash" as well read the faq about support and found nothing on this topic, so i felt i should say something...

i am a homebrew fan of the dreamcast, have been since 1999. *it's a nice little machine that can do a lot. *however it is #2 on my list to my xbox.

i was pleased when i went on consolevision and saw that someone ported simple flash support to the dreamcast. *a start, which is great. *he did a lot of great stuff to it and it was fun testing it.

his source is public and so is the other information he used to build it. *all legal, all legit. *it is at: *http://www.sch3rz0.com/dcflash/

so the question is... *can it be added to xbmc? *there are many great flash goodies and i would love to be able to take them to my xbox.

thanks,

chris

tcghost

2005-01-04, 18:38

i would like flash support as well

CosyCat

2005-03-08, 22:25

flash support im xbmc, imagine the skins :)

kenny_lex

2005-05-17, 12:38

i did search on "flash" but did only find topics related to the bios, so my question is if the media center in the future will play flash files.

sorry for my bad spelling.

luna

2005-05-17, 15:04

http://swift-tools.net/flash/ could be a starting point....

dankec

2005-07-29, 10:56

hello!

when we could expect support for flash (.swf) files?
i mean, xbox is so close to pc... is it so hard to make something like swiff player for pc? (http://www.globfx.com/products/swfplayer/)

shet

2005-08-08, 10:03

yah its been requested alot.. i got a flash movie player in the bins and all it can do is play movie.swf without sound or control.
is there a better one than that out yet?
is there enough sources yet?

that wood be pretty cool to have a built in flash player in the xbmc even if it doesnt work all that great.

Duck11

2005-08-25, 13:09

i personally would love to sit down at my tv, grab some ginger-ale and watch a marathon session of strongbad. i even tried to use some flash->avi convertors i found on the internet with the intention of making a dvd, but they were all crap when it came to anything that had actionscript. by which i mean not only interactive stuff (which is a big *duh* in terms of supporting via an automated program) but also stuff that wasn't. like skipping over a bunch of frames. the video came out fine but the audio became unsynced.

i think someone actually requested this feature before, maybe for xbmp, but it was turned down on the basis that there aren't any good open-source flash libraries. which is kinda true (i only found one, and it hadn't been worked on for a while) but even a mediocre one would be better than nothing.
hi there! recently i have found a nice programm that is flash to video encoder pro 3.3 by geovid. its nice program helps to create create your own video or dvd collection by converting with flash to video encoder your favourite flash movies. record the passing of your favorite flash game to video file and save it to the future and etc. also you able to convert flash swf files to mp4 media contnt for your mobile devices.
you can find it in google.

heyburt

2005-09-03, 00:03

can xbmc play .swf files? i dont want to waste a dvd if it cant.

Nickman

2005-09-03, 00:14

can xbmc play .swf files? i dont want to waste a dvd if it cant.
no it can't.

heyburt

2005-09-03, 00:15

can someone make a plug in....

jsd

2005-09-24, 22:37

i have some flash video files (.flv extension). are these playable in xbmc? i was hoping maybe they were just windows media video in a new container but i suspect it may be an entirely new codec.

pike

2005-09-24, 22:48

no, afaik we dont support flash video

jsd

2005-09-26, 17:36

no, afaik we dont support flash video
i did some googling. turns out flash video is based on the sorenson "spark" codec, if that helps anybody.

CosyCat

2006-01-11, 00:34

maby this is something you guys can use to have xbmc play swf files..

player and it´s open source
http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/

C-Quel

2006-01-11, 00:40

would be nice... :)

stuaxo

2006-01-11, 01:08

i just came in to post the same idea, but you got there already!

SiW

2006-01-26, 18:45

ffmpeg / mplayer can decode flv (flash video), so would this be an easy addition to xbmc? i know very little about the backend, though obviously i'm familiar with xbmc development (cpblobs, woo!)

note that afaik this has nothing to do with swf, so i don't think the two topics should be lumped together.

Livin

2006-01-26, 19:36

before asking questions...

search
read

if you don't find what you want... rince and repeat several times before posting.

http://www.xboxmediaplayer.de/cgi-bin....;t=1921 (http://www.xboxmediaplayer.de/cgi-bin/forums/ikonboard.pl?act=st;f=4;t=1921)

Gamester17

2006-01-27, 15:55

fyi; ffmpeg (http://ffmpeg.sourceforge.net) contains a new utility (in its cvs) called "cws2fws" that convert compressed flash-files to uncompressed ones, *which can be than played back with ffmpeg. maybe it could be ported to mplayer (or into a library/dll for xbmc?)?

HarshReality

2006-01-28, 02:12

yet another wonderful idea to expand xbmc's media capabilities! of course if links makes it in then we'de have a choice! hooray for democracy!

power to da people!!

theni9e

2006-01-28, 11:23

awesome idea, swf has been been a missing feature or both xbmp and xbmc... would love to see some functionality!

momad

2006-03-23, 00:28

i want to know if its possible to play flv files on xbmc and if not, how much work will it take to create some sort of codec for flv playback?

there are many tools for converting flv to avi and vice-versa. there are also many players that can play .flv files.

http://www.videolan.org/vlc/
http://www.erightsoft.com/super.html
http://www.martijndevisser.com/2005/10/flv_player_updated.html
http://ffmpeg.sourceforge.net/ffmpeg-doc.html#sec16

let me know if anybody wants to explore these possibilities??

momad

elupus

2006-03-23, 01:26

given that ffmpeg supports it, it should already be possible.. (depends a little on when it was added to ffmpeg). mplayer uses ffmpeg to play the codec, i suppose it might have some problems demuxing it thou.

pike

2006-03-23, 01:28

i tested local playback of that file mentioned earlier, and that works, its a ffmpeg flash video

but http streaming does not work elupus

djIsoMetric

2006-06-10, 08:57

i think it would be great if you could put intergrate a flash player so we could watch flash animations and play flash games

thor918

2006-06-10, 14:07

one would need source for this.
how many open source flash players have you seen latly?
most of them that exists supports at the best flash version 4.
and what version do you think most of the flashes animation that is on the net requiers?

here is one open source that may be of interest.
http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/

mgswed

2006-10-01, 21:05

Has there been any changes as to whether or not flv is supported by XBMC. If so how do I add the codecs and extensions? thanks

pike

2006-10-01, 21:29

there's a Youtube script included with the t3ch FAT build
Youtube uses .flv videos

So I'd say it's working :nerd:

blaize

2007-08-30, 11:21

I've allready mentioned this in a different tread, i think this is a really good feature to have.

Gnash is an open source flash video player, it's not as advanced as the official flash video player, but it supports most (if not all) games and s also able to play video from sites like youtube.

Having flash support would hopefully also mean new options for XBMC skins, but i'm not sure if it'll take to much resources for that or not.

Having the ability to view youtube videos, and let people play flash games would really be a great addition to XBMC i think.

Gamester17

2007-08-30, 12:29

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gnash
http://www.gnashdev.org
http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash
http://savannah.gnu.org/projects/gnash

Looks promising, problem is finding a skilled enough developer with time and interest to make it work as a player for XBMC

blaize

2007-08-30, 14:10

I'm sure getting a developer interested wont be that difficult, just look at what kind of options it would add to xbmc :)
getting one that's skilled enough is more difficult, i'm sure porting this to xbox will be quite the challenge.

Lets just hope that someone is willing to pick this up, and do pretty much all XBMC users a Big favor :laugh:

stuartturrell

2007-09-11, 18:32

Hi there,

I host a weather station with the information LIVE on the internet.

It is displayed using a program called "Weather Display Live".

Live weather, Southern England (http://www.wighthobbies.co.uk/wdweather/wx3.html)

Is there any way i can get to see this on my TV through the xbox??
That would be great, either through the browser or a script of some kind?

Many thanks

Stuart

Gamester17

2007-09-12, 09:53

I took a look at gnash a while ago, and imho it has too heavy dependencies like glib, boost, libmad, not mentioning cairo/gtk... (and so on, http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/manual/gnash.html#codedepend), the least thing XBMC needs is more library ports to xbox for a "niche" functionality.doh!

nate12o6

2007-10-17, 23:13

What are the chances that xbmc would get a flash player so that we could play flash games such as tower defense and so on or would it need to be done in python??

timdog82001

2007-10-18, 11:27

I would say the chances of that are about 0. Maybe on the linux version in the future, but that would be a ways off I'm sure, sometime after they're finished adding all the basic stuff. There's a flash player for the xbox right now (not part of XBMC) and to be honest its aweful. No sounds, video's choppy. From what I understand, its no easy task to (legally) add support for flash.

plex

2008-03-13, 10:51

could you link to information (or download link) to this xbox flash player?
I couldn't find it anywhere.

Thanks.

timdog82001

2008-03-13, 11:32

its in the usual places, if you know where that is

google ***** if not

edit: oops, guess i can't be that explicit

Gamester17

2008-03-13, 14:41

It is part of LinksBoks (the webbrowser for Xbox) which is open source:
http://www.xbox-scene.com/software/software.php?page=mediaplayersswfx and swfxplayer

This is a decoding library for Macromedia Flash(tm) animations, compiled for use with homebrew applications compiled with the XDK.

Due to the number of requests for Flash support in LinksBoks, I've decided to experiment a bit on this library and here's the result.

Current Status:: v0.1
no download (built with XDK)
Official Website: http://ysbox.online.fr/ I believe this flash-player is a port of gameswf (an open source library), see:
http://tulrich.com/geekstuff/gameswf.html
http://www.gotoandplay.it/spotLight/gameSwf/

Gamester17

2008-03-13, 14:49

I believe this flash-player is a port of gameswf (an open source library), see:
http://tulrich.com/geekstuff/gameswf.html
http://www.gotoandplay.it/spotLight/gameSwf/Looks like that port has actually been committed upstream to gameswf CVS on tulrich.com (http://tulrich.com/geekstuff/gameswf.html)
http://www.koders.com/cpp/fid785631003E457AD45F4585A14AAFB2DB4CE1E5C5.aspx?s =xbox

So you could try building the library from there if you have the XDK and a Visual Studio .NET 2003 enviroment
http://tulrich.com/geekstuff/gameswf.html