View Full Version : Relax and XBMC : too slow !!!
hi,
while testing the last cvs with relax for sharing music and movie files, i thought it was realy realy too slow to dispay the whole content of directories !!! about 15~20sec for an album (10/15 songs), more than 1min for a directory with a huge number of files (more thant 300 for ex).
on my french board, lots of friends got the same "issue" and feel it's realy too slow too.
it's seems that xbmc is looking for thumbnails, .jpg or something like this for each file/directory (?) causing the connexion slowing down. and maybe the network protocol has been changed too (seems right).
so, i'm asking you (xbmc developpers) if you could do something to resolve this "issue".
i still prefer using xbmp, where the relax share is realy effective (no need to wait while displaying the files/directories list, playing a song/movie doesn't slow down the connexion for browsing, etc...)
i think the best you could do would be to do the same for xbmc.
and if xbmc is realy checking for thumbnail (.tnb or .jpg), it could be great to add a option to allow it or not, for all people that are not interested in. i do think and affirm that lot of users are waiting this "issue" to be improved or changed.
thx :)
dj-yoyo
www.gueux.net
DarkOneX
2004-03-14, 18:10
i agree on this, it's not just relax either, smb shares are very slow, worse on the newest build by probably 50% too! i have ~1000 music vids split into folders by music type, some such as modern rock and pop have hundreds of vids in them and those dirs take probably 2 min to load every time. if it would at least cache whatever the heck it's loading each time then that would be a bit better. it's unbearable as it is now.
i too have noticed the slow down when browsing through folders from my relax server.
its much slower than doing the same thing in xbmp.
i was wondering if using smb would fix it (i've not managed to get it working yet, see other post) however from reading this
it sounds like it is just as slow?
mike
just do a search on this board for "relax" and you will understand that you *must* convert to smb or ccxgui (ccxstream) when using xbmc. http://www.xboxmediaplayer.de/forums/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif *
relax worked very well with xbmp, *but* not so with xbmc.
see e.g. here (http://www.xboxmediaplayer.de/cgi-bin/forums/ikonboard.pl?act=st;f=3;t=2335;hl=relax).
maybe a mod can do a sticky msg with a subject like "relax is not working with xbmc - use smb or ccxgui!" so users can see it easily or it can be easily refered to? *???
personally i use ccxgui without any problem (it doesn't require ms network to be installed, if you don't already have it). other's use smb with same good result (requires ms network to be installed). :)
thx for the answer :)
so, relax doesn't work properly with relax. i didn't read anything about this anywhere.
i think it would be a great thing to add a sticky about this. just give us all points we need to know for effective sharing with xbmc.
but, just one last thing...
if i still want to use relax, what do i need to do? wait for a new relax release..., or maybe a new xbmc build? are xbmc developpers doing something for a better compatibility with relax? or have i just to let relax down ????
thx all :)
i do not believe work is being done on relax itself. i believe it is relax that has the issues.
as for smb and slowness, this should be fixed in latest cvs. you'll have to compile it yourself though.
ts
had the same problem, so i tried to switch to smb. but that just opend up a whole lot of other problems.
i cant't do this under movies:
* *<bookmark>
* * *<name>movies - network</name>
* * * path>smb://****:****@10.0.0.4/storage/movies1</path>
* *</bookmark>
* *<bookmark>
* * *<name>edonkey</name>
* * * path>smb://****.****@10.0.0.4/storage/movies2</path>
* *</bookmark>
it causes xbmc not to boot.
if i try with only 1 share, i can boot. but if i play a movie it freezes after about 15 min. apperently i am not the only one with this prob: see here (http://www.xboxmediaplayer.de/cgi-bin/forums/ikonboard.pl?act=st;f=2;t=1867)
have also tried ccxstream...same slow pain in the a**.
can some on tell me why the dev. team had to change something that worked great in xbmp???
xbmc 09-03-2004 proper
windows server 2003 enterprise
had the same problem, so i tried to switch to smb. but that just opend up a whole lot of other problems.
i cant't do this under movies:
* *<bookmark>
* * *<name>movies - network</name>
* * * path>smb://****:****@10.0.0.4/storage/movies1</path>
* *</bookmark>
* *<bookmark>
* * *<name>edonkey</name>
* * * path>smb://****.****@10.0.0.4/storage/movies2</path>
* *</bookmark>
it causes xbmc not to boot.
if i try with only 1 share, i can boot. but if i play a movie it freezes after about 15 min. apperently i am not the only one with this prob: see here (http://www.xboxmediaplayer.de/cgi-bin/forums/ikonboard.pl?act=st;f=2;t=1867)
have also tried ccxstream...same slow pain in the a**.
can some on tell me why the dev. team had to change something that worked great in xbmp???
xbmc 09-03-2004 proper
windows server 2003 enterprise
if this is your real code you must correct the path tags. all tags must begin with <
<bookmark>
* * *<name>movies - network</name>
* * * <path>smb://****:****@10.0.0.4/storage/movies1</path>
* *</bookmark>
* *<bookmark>
* * *<name>edonkey</name>
* * * <path>smb://****.****@10.0.0.4/storage/movies2</path>
* *</bookmark>
stevellion
2004-03-15, 02:34
and also.. you can split up the smb share some more..
looks to me like your share is 'storage' and you're trying to access a sub-directory of that?
try it with just:
<path>smb://****:****@10.0.0.4/movies1</path>
and change your smb share to reflect it?
this works absolutely fine for me..
xbmc 09-03-2004 proper
windows server 2003 enterprise
remember reading something about a fix for 2003. don't know if they still apply.
see here:
http://www.xboxmediaplayer.de/cgi-bin....8&t=361 (http://www.xboxmediaplayer.de/cgi-bin/forums/ikonboard.pl?act=st&f=8&t=361)
...and maybe here:
http://www.xboxmediaplayer.de/cgi-bin....and+fix (http://www.xboxmediaplayer.de/cgi-bin/forums/ikonboard.pl?act=st;f=2;t=1829;hl=windows+2003+and +fix)
can some on tell me why the dev. team had to change something that worked great in xbmp???
i agree !!! please, xbmc team..., do something for us !!! :lol: :lol:
Hullebulle
2004-03-15, 12:59
i am not a dev, but if i remember corect it only worked great in xbmp because there were some "dirty hacks" fixing some things that should better be fixed on the serverside.
since one goal of xbmc is be coded as clean as possible these tweaks were not added to it.
pope-x, the author of relax was going to "fix" these things in the serverapp (planed a rewrite anyway), but unfortunately he hadn't time for the rewrite so far.
filobeddo
2004-03-15, 18:25
i've found that this slow browsing of music shares seems to be due to id3 tags.
if you disable the use of id3 tags in settings the directories pop up quick as you like.
ToeCutter
2004-03-16, 23:16
i've found that this slow browsing of music shares seems to be due to id3 tags.
if you disable the use of id3 tags in settings the directories pop up quick as you like.
yep. perhaps id3 tags should be disabled by default?
guys, try ccxstream.
it is so easy to use and can stream vobs at well over 8 mbps on my 802.11g. it's much more stable than either relax or smb. and, no auth issues whatsoever.
if you want easy and reliable, you want ccxstream. get ccxgui and you'll have it up and running in no time (prolly less than 5 minutes)