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tamper
2004-02-06, 03:24
i like the movie stacking feature in the newest build of xbmc - the trouble is it works a bit too well!

for example, i had on my xbox:

the little mermaid.mpg
the little mermaid ii.mpg
(don't ask)

anyway, after an update to the new build i noticed that only the first was in the list - it was taking the roman 'ii' as the second (stacked) part of the same file.

personally i'd prefer to only stack multi-part video files, rather than sequels. perhaps it would be better to be a bit tighter on the syntax of stacked filenames?

also on the subject of this, i do have a multipart vid on my box. the filenames are:

harry potter cd1.mpg
harry potter cd2.mpg
harry potter cd3.mpg

this stacks correctly, but the filename in the list is the name of the first part. if files are named in this way, how about an auto (or user) created 'stack name' for the entire movie? in this example, i'd prefer to just see 'harry potter' in the list, then select the appropriate cd from the stack icons.

does anyone agree?

cameronsto
2004-02-06, 04:15
i didn't realize what was going on at first. i was trying to watch some tv shows i had with the following names:

chappelles.show.s02e01.vcd.ffn.mpg
chappelles.show.s02e03-bj.mpg
the chappelle show - 202 - [abn].avi

as you can probably guess the first two were stacked. what is the criteria for stacking files? what's the syntax xbmc looks for to stack them?

-cameron

mosax
2004-02-06, 11:36
really, what is the reason to change the way file stacking works in xbmc compaired to file stacking in xbmp?

as we all know, in xbmp the user always had 100% control by using the ...-cdx naming scheme. doesn't everyone prefer total control of file stacking? :)

Frodo
2004-02-06, 11:56
xbmc filestacking is different from xbmp
it stacks files for which the filenames >90% the same
however, every method has its exception. in this case it doesnt work for sequels and/or tvshows.
in these cases, best thing is to put your movies in seperate folders or use the unstack button.

the reason we're not using the -cdxxx algo anymore is that
it requires users to rename all their files. and many ppl (including me) burned their movies on cd/dvd
frodo

mosax
2004-02-06, 12:45
xbmc filestacking is different from xbmp
it stacks files for which the filenames >90% the same
however, every method has its exception. in this case it doesnt work for sequels and/or tvshows.
in these cases, best thing is to put your movies in seperate folders or use the unstack button.
maybe implement two modes of stacking:
- classic, simple stacking a lá xbmp for users using streaming/hdd
-'fyzzy'/intelligent(?) stacking for users using discs

...selectable in 'settings' like 'use fuzzy stacking |x|'.

having to utilize subfolders is a drag! :( *and not using any file-stacking is also a drag! :(

:d still, xbmc is great!

Frodo
2004-02-06, 13:13
and pls dont post the same question several times in these forums!
frodo

IndieRockSteve
2004-02-12, 05:15
video stacking is stacking some of my tv show mpg's, which obviously i don't want.

my normal naming schemes use 01x08 or s01e08 within the file to signify season and episode. for some reason its using this to stack some files, others using the same scheme don't get stacked...

thanks!

mosax
2004-02-12, 17:38
this is a recurring topic already covered a lot (see e.g. here (http://www.xboxmediaplayer.de/cgi-bin/forums/ikonboard.pl?act=st;f=1;t=1505;hl=stacking)).

in short, current implementation uses fuzzy logic which means you can't be sure on how your files will be stacked (hence fuzzy http://www.xboxmediaplayer.de/forums/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif ). *personally i'd like an alternative mode of stacking using the ...-cdx naming scheme used in xmbp.

apperently there are two views on this question: users having their files on harddisc media and users with files on dvds, with the latter not being able to rename their files (for obvious reasons). as i understand it, the current implementation is baised towards the latter.

IndieRockSteve
2004-02-12, 22:59
then maybe an option or something?

right now i just "unstack" the files, but then i have to switch back and forth for the movies list i have.

or maybe an option for the folder setup in the xml that lets you default this mode for individual shares.

Gamester17
2004-02-13, 12:35
i too have to say i find this new stacking solution anoying for movie sequels and tv-serie episodes, so i would also like to see an option for the 'old' xbmp (_cdx & -cdx & .cdx) method in xbmc

thebeast
2004-02-13, 15:52
same here, if it's not backwards to make such an option.

my reason for this is: back-wards compability, ie. for those who need it, it could be made to work.

except if it's a lot of work.

Morien
2004-02-13, 17:09
if you ask me (i like pretending that people have), it's fine as is. i too do get annoyed with tv episodes, etc, however that's what the easy access to the unstack button is for.

morien

Morien
2004-02-14, 16:30
i've posted a feature request here (http://www.xboxmediaplayer.de/cgi-bin/forums/ikonboard.pl?act=st;f=4;t=1723;r=1) to make xbmc remember the last used setting for a folder (stacked or unstacked), so that we typically will only need to configure a folder once. what does everyone else think?

morien

goataz
2004-02-18, 12:07
i think remembering the folder setting is a great idea. generally for the things that stacking doesn't work for, i don't want stacked ever anyway.

Gamester17
2004-02-18, 14:20
i've posted a feature request here (http://www.xboxmediaplayer.de/cgi-bin/forums/ikonboard.pl?act=st;f=4;t=1723;r=1) to make xbmc remember the last used setting for a folder (stacked or unstacked), so that we typically will only need to configure a folder once. what does everyone else think?
that will not work for the dvd-rom drive though (meaning it's not smart enabling "remember stacked or unstacked" on cd/dvd's)

Morien
2004-02-18, 17:47
couldn't it remember based upon that cd/dvd's properties? such as with thumbnails being remembered for images/videos on cd/dvd's? even if it gets confused sometimes and applies the wrong setting to a similar disc it would still be better than nothing.

morien